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playdayz

Joined: 25 Apr 2008 Posts: 3794
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Posted: Sun 31 Jul 2011, 19:12 Post subject:
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pemasu and don570, You have made me a believe in the right-click convenience. I am already starting to rely on it I think it will be a big hit among users. Thanks for all the work.
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Béèm

Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 11775 Location: Brussels IBM Thinkpad R40, 256MB, 20GB, WiFi ipw2100. Frugal Lin'N'Win
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Posted: Sun 31 Jul 2011, 19:15 Post subject:
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playdayz wrote: | Quote: | @ playdayz
In talking to Bert, he taught me that the version of mplayer gnome was not the same between 266 and 526.
266 => 1.0.4 gnome mplayer
526rc => 1.0.3 gnome mplayer
What is the reason for this change in version? |
The pursuit of the elusive vdpau message was the basic reason. It seemed that 1.0.3 did not generate that message, but 1.0.4 did, so I reverted. I have learned more and the version I am currently building has 1.0.4 again.
| mplayer isn't the only application which generates this series of VDPAU messages. As I said already SeaMonkey does it also.
But I have news.
I installed the 526 on the dreaded Medion 8818.
It has an nvidia graphics card.
After booting and only using SeaMonkey, xerrs.log stays at some 57 lines.
No VDPAU messages.
It's logic, as nvidia is VDPAU ready. Others not.
So I wonder if there could be:
- a kernel parameter to disable VDPAU
or better
- disable automatically VDPAU in case a nvidia graphics isn't installed.
Just my 2¢.
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bigpup

Joined: 11 Oct 2009 Posts: 10326 Location: Charleston S.C. USA
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Posted: Sun 31 Jul 2011, 19:30 Post subject:
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rerwin wrote: | Essentially, the updater will not delete your old app versions, which should override the newer versions. |
If I am understanding this.
What good is an update of the save file?
The whole purpose of upgrading is to get the newer version, of a program, with the bug fix.
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rerwin

Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Posts: 1884 Location: Maine, USA
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Posted: Sun 31 Jul 2011, 20:16 Post subject:
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playdayz,
I have discovered a surprising situation. It appears that the udev rules in the relatively new /lib/udev/rules.d directory are not being processed. I have been frustrated by my inability to solve dalderton's issue of the modeswitch rules being ignored. As a test, I moved a working test rules file from /etc/udev/rules.d to /lib/udev/rules.d. It no longer works!
This implies that not only are the modeswitch rules being ignored, but also the rest of the rules files in /lib/udev/rules.d. Maybe we should pause a little longer to resolve that.
Richard
Here is evidence that the udev version (124-2) in lupu does not know about the "default" rules directory. That must have come in later. Quote: | Content of RPM udev-core-124-2.i586.rpm :
/etc/modprobe.d/udev_blacklist.conf
/etc/scsi_id.config
/etc/udev
/etc/udev/links.conf
/etc/udev/rules.d
/etc/udev/rules.d/05-udev-early.rules
/etc/udev/rules.d/10-udev-example.rules
/etc/udev/rules.d/40-alsa.rules
/etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules
/etc/udev/rules.d/51-modprobe.rules
/etc/udev/rules.d/55-hotplug_map.rules
/etc/udev/rules.d/60-cdrom_id.rules
/etc/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-input.rules
/etc/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage-tape.rules
/etc/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules
/etc/udev/rules.d/61-persistent-storage-edd.rules
/etc/udev/rules.d/64-device-mapper.rules
/etc/udev/rules.d/80-drivers.rules
/etc/udev/rules.d/95-udev-late.rules
/etc/udev/udev.conf
/lib/udev
/lib/udev/ata_id
/lib/udev/cdrom_id
/lib/udev/create_floppy_devices
/lib/udev/devices
/lib/udev/edd_id
/lib/udev/firmware.sh
/lib/udev/net_helper
/lib/udev/path_id
/lib/udev/scsi_id
/lib/udev/usb_id
/lib/udev/vol_id
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It appears that lucid lynx uses udev 151-12. I cannot find similar evidence, but the ubuntu pages such as http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/packages/show/248972 mention both directories.
We have two alternatives:
1. "Right" way: Upgrade lupu to use the Lucid Lynx udev version (or similar, as in wary).
2. Expedient way: Move all of the rules files into /etc/udev/rules.d.
Now I can get a good night's sleep, having solved dalderton's mystery.
Richard
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Snail
Joined: 18 Oct 2009 Posts: 334
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Posted: Sun 31 Jul 2011, 20:18 Post subject:
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Smokey01 Playdayz
I would be happy to write the HowTo. How urgent is it? I have never used Notecase, is there much of a learning curve? I don't see any picture in 101 at the moment, are they possible or do I have to get that sort of detail over by being clever with links?
Playdayz I am very, very pleased that you now see the use of right-clicks. If it helps you, just think how good it is for the casual user. If I write the HowTo, it would be my preference to assume that you have binned the "Customise" menu options, for the reasons that I have given above. Would this be acceptable to you? It's your distro after all.
I had a mad idea about right clicks. The .desktop files already hold info about icons and executable files and are a Linux standard, unlike RoxApps. Wouldn't it be nice if you could use the .desktop instead of duplicating the same info in the form of a Roxapp? So I tried adding the "$1" parameter to the Exec= line in a .desktop and then symlinking the .desktop to the Open-with subdirectory. Alas it doesn't work, nor does "$@". Pity.
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Béèm

Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 11775 Location: Brussels IBM Thinkpad R40, 256MB, 20GB, WiFi ipw2100. Frugal Lin'N'Win
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Posted: Sun 31 Jul 2011, 20:27 Post subject:
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Snail,
Notecase is very easy and intuitive.
It is based on creating nodes and eventually nodes on nodes.
Just make up your mind about a structure and hierarchy you want to set up.
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Snail
Joined: 18 Oct 2009 Posts: 334
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Posted: Sun 31 Jul 2011, 20:59 Post subject:
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Thanks for the reassurance Béèm.
I have thought a bit more about the subject, should have done it before my last post I know how to set up a right click, provided that the filetype is one already assigned a mime-type. For the case of an entirely new file-type that doesn't have an existing mime-type, I will have to do some research. If we drop the "Customise" options in the menus, the user also needs to check if his particular file-type is already known to Rox or not. Anyone got any pointers?
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Snail
Joined: 18 Oct 2009 Posts: 334
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Posted: Sun 31 Jul 2011, 21:50 Post subject:
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Smokey01
Quick question. Is there a reason that PH101-001.ncd is in /usr/share/doc and not /usr/share/doc/help? Shouldn't it be PH101-002.ncd?
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bigpup

Joined: 11 Oct 2009 Posts: 10326 Location: Charleston S.C. USA
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Posted: Mon 01 Aug 2011, 02:07 Post subject:
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Got the idea from here
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=39505
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bigpup

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Posted: Mon 01 Aug 2011, 02:19 Post subject:
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Got idea from here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=39505
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Sage
Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 5371 Location: GB
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Posted: Mon 01 Aug 2011, 03:10 Post subject:
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rerwin:
Quote: | Your question is something every upgrader needs to know. |
- care to advise on precautions relating to FULL installation upgrades, please?
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smokey01

Joined: 30 Dec 2006 Posts: 2682 Location: South Australia
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Posted: Mon 01 Aug 2011, 04:09 Post subject:
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Snail wrote: | Smokey01
Quick question. Is there a reason that PH101-001.ncd is in /usr/share/doc and not /usr/share/doc/help? Shouldn't it be PH101-002.ncd? |
Snail, no reason really.
I have already started on PH101-002 in fact playdayz already has a copy of it. You don't need to do any fancy programming just PM me a text file.
Answer to your question above. Yes you can add graphics but the file would become very large and would not make it into Lucid.
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peebee

Joined: 21 Sep 2008 Posts: 3257 Location: Worcestershire, UK
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Posted: Mon 01 Aug 2011, 06:00 Post subject:
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Hi playdayz
I did my usual setup of a remote smbc printer to my XP box.
Got the attached error when I tried to print.....
Cheers
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rcrsn51

Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 11896 Location: Stratford, Ontario
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Posted: Mon 01 Aug 2011, 08:28 Post subject:
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peebee wrote: | I did my usual setup of a remote smbc printer to my XP box.Got the attached error when I tried to print.... |
The solution is to make the following symlink
Code: | ln -s /lib/libreadline.so.6.1 /usr/lib/libreadline.so.5 |
But I have no idea why 526 requires this but 525 does not.
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pemasu

Joined: 08 Jul 2009 Posts: 5484 Location: Finland
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Posted: Mon 01 Aug 2011, 08:57 Post subject:
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Playdayz and rerwin. About udev 151-12. I remember when Playdayz tested it and got some bad experience about it. I just cant remember what went wrong.
But....I had to change to the udev 151-12 when I started to use kernel 2.6.35.7. I couldnt get audio working otherwise. I have used udev 151-12 since then with 2.6.38.2, 2.6.38.4 and now with 2.6.39.3 kernels. Audio has worked. I havent noticed any problems with using it.
Now...People have woofed using ez woof 525 and they have used my kernels 2.6.38.4 and maybe 2.6.39.3 and they have had a lot problems with audio. Maybe older udev is one reason of the audio problems with ez woof 525
If....you are going to create ez woof 527 and there is plan to test newer kernels with it....updating the udev to 151-12 is again current.
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