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cthisbear

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PostPosted: Tue 11 Sep 2012, 20:14    Post subject:  

" i will charge a fee for everything else, because they cost money.

Shipping CD's/ DVD's, manuals USB sticks, SD cards are all exchanged
for relevant currency. "

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Nothing wrong with that....keep on developing it mate.

Chris.
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sickgut


Joined: 23 Mar 2010
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Location: Tasmania, Australia in the mountains.

PostPosted: Fri 21 Sep 2012, 02:01    Post subject:  

i have found a company here in australia that will be able to provide printed boxes, cd/ dvd's etc and customized USB sticks as well as manuals etc. However, i havnt found any good sticker (small stickers to put on your computer like the Intel Inside (TM) but with some Pussy related slogan) supplier that is cheap and willing to do the smaller size(s).

Im going to get CDs and DVDs printed and suitable packaging etc... but the DVDs and CDs i order will be blank (not design/ label blank... i mean data blank) so when anyone orders Pussy on CD/DVD ill burn the latest version on the media and then ship it. This will be best other wise i may be caught holding 100's of Pussy OS DVD's that are out of date because a newer version has been released.

Pussy downloads are still going strong, so far this month there has been more than 50GB downloaded from the website.

[Edit:] its the 29th of September and so far this month 75.1GB of pussy has been downloaded Smile
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sickgut


Joined: 23 Mar 2010
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Location: Tasmania, Australia in the mountains.

PostPosted: Tue 02 Oct 2012, 08:18    Post subject:  

As mentioned before, im currently adding to the pussy-xtra iso to create a jam packed DVD version....

Packages added so far are:

mozilla-plugin-vlc - play media embedded in websites like .wav or .mp3
rosegarden - music composition and MIDI workstation
audacity - digital audio workstation/ wave editor
mypaint - paint program
jack - MIDI connection kit
qjackctl - utility to manage jack
beep - type beep at the console and the pc speaker will beep
bb - demo of libaa ascii graphical library set to music
xsidplay + libsidplay2 + sidplay-base - X and console C64 music player
dcraw and fraw - read raw image data from files or cameras
cups-driver-gutenprint (included cups) - more printing functionality
escputil - epson printer maintenance utils
photon - a static HTML gallery generator
blender - no idea, some people have requested it before 3D modeling??
wimgs3d - same kinda thing as blender i think

gimp plugins:
gimp-data-extras- An extra set of brushes, palettes, and gradients
gimp-dds - DirectDraw Surface) plugin for the gimp
gimp-resynthesizer: Gimp plugin for texture synthesis
gtkam-gimp -gimp plugin to open digital camera pictures
gimp-gutenprint - print plugin for the GIMP
gimp-gmic - GIMP plugin for GREYC's Magic Image Converter
gimp2.0-quiteinsane: A Qt based SANE plugin for GIMP 2.0
gimp-plugin-registry - repository of optional extensions for The GIMP
gimp-gap - gimp animation package
gimp-ufraw - gimp imported for raw camera images
abr2gbr - Converts PhotoShop brushes to GIMP
gimp-dcraw - GIMP plug-in for loading RAW digital photos

Planning on adding all the soft synth software and a large repository of free music in midi/ mod/ sid formats also QB64, similar to MS Quick Basic.

If anyone here wants anything added at all then please post. The idea is to be left with a completely full DVD iso that lets you do absolutely everything possibly imaginable all in one OS. Im adding all the video/ drawing and music stuff first.

Also there will be every popular modern browser installed with 2 versions of Firefox, one will be the older iceweasel in the debian squeeze repos simply to add a little backwards compatibility and so that the user can get support from the debian chat chans if need be, because they support that firefox version.... and the newest one.

Its going to be quite a task to fill the DVD iso

Im still waiting for proper debian drivers for the Rasp Pi GPU, until that happens, the pussy-pie project is on hold, altho the pussy-pie-server is all ready to go and is available for download.

Ill check in again when i have more news.
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greengeek

Joined: 20 Jul 2010
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Location: New Zealand

PostPosted: Tue 02 Oct 2012, 11:07    Post subject:  

sickgut - if you are struggling to fill the dvd can I make a suggestion - I would love to see PXE ability built in - by which I mean that the dvd would contain the live Pussy OS, and also the PXE server functionality (with autostart-at-boot), plus also a copy of the Pussy OS already modified to be netbootable. (I have recently done this with my modified version of PupServer435 and it works well).http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=80620

This would mean that the live dvd would immediately be able to serve Pussy across the home network to any other machine that wanted to boot from the network via PXE (eg: a diskless machine, or thinclient etc).

The user would not have to do any modifying of the pussy files to make them netbootable - it would already have been done and they are just sitting waiting on the dvd ready for a pxe request.
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sickgut


Joined: 23 Mar 2010
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Location: Tasmania, Australia in the mountains.

PostPosted: Wed 03 Oct 2012, 02:24    Post subject:  

greengeek wrote:
sickgut - if you are struggling to fill the dvd can I make a suggestion - I would love to see PXE ability built in - by which I mean that the dvd would contain the live Pussy OS, and also the PXE server functionality (with autostart-at-boot), plus also a copy of the Pussy OS already modified to be netbootable. (I have recently done this with my modified version of PupServer435 and it works well).http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=80620

This would mean that the live dvd would immediately be able to serve Pussy across the home network to any other machine that wanted to boot from the network via PXE (eg: a diskless machine, or thinclient etc).

The user would not have to do any modifying of the pussy files to make them netbootable - it would already have been done and they are just sitting waiting on the dvd ready for a pxe request.


i wll do some experimenting, a few things there i will need to learn
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sickgut


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Location: Tasmania, Australia in the mountains.

PostPosted: Wed 03 Oct 2012, 02:34    Post subject:  

Today i got the idea to scan through Ubuntu Studio's package selection, not because i want to create anything remotely similar but while i am sorting out the audio and video stuff i thought doing this would give me a few ideas and also introduce me to packages that i have no seen/ used/ heard of.

im cross referencing the package names with what is available in the debian repos and i think i have found 5 or 6 that would be good to include in Pussy. While i have been using Linux for quite a few years, i have generally stuck to a limited selection of packages for my own general use and so i am not really savvy to exactly what is out there and ready to use on Linux.

While i have experience with the audio side of things, i have none at all with video/ graphics sort of apps and if any video/ graphics experts would like to PM me or post here the names of the programs they use then i would greatly appreciate it.
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nooby

Joined: 29 Jun 2008
Posts: 10522
Location: SwedenEurope

PostPosted: Wed 03 Oct 2012, 06:26    Post subject:  

Here is a suggestion. Sadly it requires Java something
so that is a security risk? The 3D CGI program Make Human.

http://www.makehuman.org/

They have a Debian download. Would be cool if you tested
if that works with your PussyLinux. http://www.makehuman.org/release

Just a friendly suggestion. The reason I have not been able to test
is that I don't understand the Java install. Computer challenged among other faults

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not an ideal solution though
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666philb


Joined: 07 Feb 2010
Posts: 1495
Location: wales

PostPosted: Wed 03 Oct 2012, 06:59    Post subject:  

hi sickgut ... some suggestions

qosmic fractal flame generator http://code.google.com/p/qosmic/

reborn synthesizer http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=65388

mielophone http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=74468

tixati http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=75698

groovejaar http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=72079

gtk-youtube-viewer http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=612749

tvbrowser tvguide http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=77229

vidmasta http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=79908

zen sound http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=570660

easytag http://easytag.sourceforge.net/

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camfix

Joined: 18 Mar 2012
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PostPosted: Wed 03 Oct 2012, 09:27    Post subject:
Subject description: Missing some files
 

Hi guys;
After a brief unpleasant hospital visit I'm back.
I downloaded the Cinelerra pet.I am missing several "dependencies". Where do I find em ? How do I install em ?
Thanks Ev
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sickgut


Joined: 23 Mar 2010
Posts: 1157
Location: Tasmania, Australia in the mountains.

PostPosted: Wed 03 Oct 2012, 09:50    Post subject:
Subject description: Missing some files
 

camfix wrote:
Hi guys;
After a brief unpleasant hospital visit I'm back.
I downloaded the Cinelerra pet.I am missing several "dependencies". Where do I find em ? How do I install em ?
Thanks Ev

Pussy doesnt use pets
the whole point of pussy was to make a puppy like OS that retains the debian method of software install.

syntax for installing software is to open a terminal and then type:

apt-get install programname

however you will need to run apt-get update first to refresh the program listing so the apt utility knows what progs are available.

you can browser the software you can install using this method by visiting:

http://packages.debian.org/stable/

For instance if you find an application in that list named: super-ant-raider
then to install that app you type: apt-get install super-ant-raider

This method automatically downloads and installs all dependencies etc.
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sickgut


Joined: 23 Mar 2010
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Location: Tasmania, Australia in the mountains.

PostPosted: Wed 03 Oct 2012, 09:52    Post subject:  

666philb wrote:
hi sickgut ... some suggestions

qosmic fractal flame generator http://code.google.com/p/qosmic/

reborn synthesizer http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=65388

mielophone http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=74468

tixati http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=75698

groovejaar http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=72079

gtk-youtube-viewer http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=612749

tvbrowser tvguide http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=77229

vidmasta http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=79908

zen sound http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=570660

easytag http://easytag.sourceforge.net/



Thanks buddy, seriously i mean that.... im finding new applications all the time... htere are so many free(ish) linux programs out there that i doubt i will ever get to test them all. This Pussy DVD is going to be absolutely epic.
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sickgut


Joined: 23 Mar 2010
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Location: Tasmania, Australia in the mountains.

PostPosted: Wed 03 Oct 2012, 09:55    Post subject:  

nooby wrote:
Here is a suggestion. Sadly it requires Java something
so that is a security risk? The 3D CGI program Make Human.

http://www.makehuman.org/

They have a Debian download. Would be cool if you tested
if that works with your PussyLinux. http://www.makehuman.org/release

Just a friendly suggestion. The reason I have not been able to test
is that I don't understand the Java install. Computer challenged among other faults


I dont worry about security risks, coming from a hacking background myself i know all to well that if some wants to breach security then they will do it no matter what measures you take, other than unplugging this system from the network.

I will check out that url. Thanks for your input.
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sickgut


Joined: 23 Mar 2010
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Location: Tasmania, Australia in the mountains.

PostPosted: Wed 03 Oct 2012, 09:59    Post subject:  

This is doubling up a little but this is an update of the apps i have added to Pussy. THey are all the stock programs from the debian squeeze repos... anything that isnt in the debian squeeze repos will be added later and be installed statically in a directory that contains all the static apps.
Hopefully this list will grow to 5 or 6 times larger.

Packages added so far are:
xsane - scanner software for X
mozilla-plugin-vlc - play media embedded in websites like .wav or .mp3
rosegarden - music composition and MIDI workstation
audacity - digital audio workstation/ wave editor
mypaint - paint program
jack - MIDI connection kit
jack-tools - tool for jack
qjackctl - utility to manage jack
bitscope - monitor jack
patchage - patch bay for jack
beep - type beep at the console and the pc speaker will beep
bb - demo of libaa ascii graphical library set to music
xsidplay + libsidplay2 + sidplay-base - X and console C64 music player
dcraw and fraw - read raw image data from files or cameras
cups-driver-gutenprint (included cups) - more printing functionality
escputil - epson printer maintenance utils
photon - a static HTML gallery generator
blender - no idea, some people have requested it before 3D modeling??
wimgs3d - same kinda thing as blender i think
ardour - digital audio workstation
vkeybd - Virtual Keyboard program (MIDI keyboard)
hydrogen + hydrogen-extra-drumkits - MIDI drum sequencer
timemachine - JACK audio recorder for spontaneous and conservatory use
bristol + bristol-data + monobristol - retro soft synth(s) monobristol is the GUI
fluidsynth + qsynth - softsynth, qsynth is the front end
aconnectgui - alsa/ jack connection kit
seq24 - MIDI sequencer
sooperlooper - looping sampler
jack-rack - effects "rack" for jack
fluid-soundfont-gm - 149MB of soundfonts

gimp plugins:
gimp-data-extras- An extra set of brushes, palettes, and gradients
gimp-dds - DirectDraw Surface) plugin for the gimp
gimp-resynthesizer: Gimp plugin for texture synthesis
gtkam-gimp -gimp plugin to open digital camera pictures
gimp-gutenprint - print plugin for the GIMP
gimp-gmic - GIMP plugin for GREYC's Magic Image Converter
gimp2.0-quiteinsane: A Qt based SANE plugin for GIMP 2.0
gimp-plugin-registry - repository of optional extensions for The GIMP
gimp-gap - gimp animation package
gimp-ufraw - gimp imported for raw camera images
abr2gbr - Converts PhotoShop brushes to GIMP
gimp-dcraw - GIMP plug-in for loading RAW digital photos

video editing:
kdenlive kino openmovieeditor stopmotion dvgrab

Packages that will be added statically or with some other trickery
due to not being available for debian squeeze:

freebirth shaketracker jackbeat qb64 (quick basic 64)
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sickgut


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PostPosted: Wed 03 Oct 2012, 10:09    Post subject:  

Due to the fact that Pussy has wine installed and working, i welcome everyone to suggest free Windows apps that work on wine. Do you have a cousin or uncle or sibling that develops Windows games or other interesting Windows progs that work on wine? then let me know, i will be more than happy to include the program in Pussy
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cthisbear

Joined: 29 Jan 2006
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Location: Sydney Australia

PostPosted: Wed 03 Oct 2012, 20:41    Post subject:  

"free Windows apps"

Teamviewer???

http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx


Linux

http://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/linux.aspx


""""""

Portable apps

http://portableapps.com/apps

Chris.
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