Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

harii4 · Posted: Sun 10 Jul 2011, 10:52 Post subject:

theres the PLUG: Puppy Linux Users Group

theres an PUG:Puppy Linux Users
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=68436

Who overrides the other if they disagree?
Will it be mob rules - most members win?

Is THE PUG - unofficial group - puplets/pups?

puppyluvr

shariebeth · Joined: 26 Jan 2010 Posts: 271 Location: Florida

We all are, harii4. puppyluvr had joined the PLUG users group. All I know is that everyone should work together as one group. I don't think there is any competition intended, just a bunch of people who think this is a good idea and tried to do something about it.

On the one hand, murga is where the users and developers mostly go so it makes sense to be hosted here. On the other hand, an offsite build will prevent this circus behavior so it makes sense to go elsewhere. What to do...

Anyway I am taking a brief emotional break from this because I am truly disgusted at how we were treated and not just by Bruce.

No good deed goes unpunished, ehh?

nooby · Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 10522 Location: SwedenEurope

harii4 , here on John Murga Puuppy forum there is only one PLUG.

Puppyite started his own version maybe that is the one you refer to as the other?

You have to ask him about his aim and goal and agenda with that one

While we talk about there being two such PLUG.

Would this John deMurga PLUG see me as not loyal if I out of curiosity did join the other PLUG too for to be a kind of cover all possibilities?

I mean if them catch a Dev that don't want to be active here? Just in case?

No harm intended.

harii4 · Posted: Sun 10 Jul 2011, 11:47 Post subject:

nooby · Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 10522 Location: SwedenEurope

I am so noisy that I edit the posts below this one and refer to the one below

russoodle thanks then I get it. Good that you corrected me. Smile

russoodle · Posted: Sun 10 Jul 2011, 12:14 Post subject:

Hello again, Nooby...

Harii4 is right, he is referring to another thread titled PUG, which Puppyluvr started last month here, which is in no way connected to Puppyite's.
Wink

nooby · Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 10522 Location: SwedenEurope

nooby · Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 10522 Location: SwedenEurope

nooby · Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 10522 Location: SwedenEurope

So the most practical thing then is to do as Joe Big Bass suggested.

We have the scrap book in the PLUG thread in Puppy Project part and then the formal lists and such on tlchost's server?

That way we reach the Devs here at puppy forum in the informal way them used to but the formal way and the more structured part that some Devs demand is at a link outside of this forum. That seems fair to me.

That way there will be no noise on the tlchost formal PLUG files. Those Devs that want to read a well edited lists of what PLUG want to happen get a well thought presentation there at tlchost that the PLUG has total control over.

Here at JohnMurga Puppy forum PLUG thread we have the free flow and laid back to and fro discussion as the Puppy tradition seems to favor.
Everybody get what them want.

harii4 · Posted: Sun 10 Jul 2011, 14:42 Post subject:

How will PLUG handle all the different kinds of puppies?
DPUP,SPUP,UPUP and ect...
Will they all be lump together or be handle separately?
by Sub-groups?
What works in one might not work in all the pups?

maybe the team might have not gotten that far yet?
Sorry - Not trying to rush.

harii4 · Posted: Sun 10 Jul 2011, 14:45 Post subject:

Oops extra post Embarassed

Aitch · Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 6825 Location: Chatham, Kent, UK

I am replacing a post I made that was in the deleted threads

Great examples of ideas which often don't get noticed

nooby · Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 10522 Location: SwedenEurope

Here is some naive thinking me have done. Only a hasty sketch but it does have some merit

1. Some Devs want structured suggestions that are sorted by somebody them can trust. What them are disappointed with now is
that it is a mess of too many voices. Too much to sift through. Them have no time or motivation to do it.

2. But one need no formal PLUG with a strict hierarchy to take care of such needs. One only need a few decent and experienced Puppy forum members that do volunteer sorting of such noise and them having a common thread about it and the Devs can look in that thread.

3. Now that is a start but sadly such a start is too vulnerable to noise from Nooby and others that have too low quality suggestions.

So the easy solution is to start such thread and under supervision of Flash it get locked after the creation and on it is a link to blogs from these volunteer experienced members that take upon themselves to sort out the good wheat from all the Nooby chaff.

Them being the owners of the Blog means them have total control over each blog. That way them can allow or disallow any comment on those blogs. Like Barry do now. Very handy and no need to host on some server one get dependent on. Very flexible. One change to another free blog if something happen to the first.

If I was an experienced such puppy forum member then I would start a Blog outside of Puppy and there add text after text with good suggestions and link to the post that Flash set up and locked.

Set up that way the Devs does not need to read all the noise at all. Them click on the link in the single thread and ignore the noise on the forum and see the good lists of sorted suggestion on the blog.

4. If a few dedicated members do such sorting that would be enough. Each Dev learn how to trust each such volunteer and that way them can chose where to look first and get exact the preferred sorter them learn to trust ...

I ramble too much but it is a working solution.

RetroTechGuy · Joined: 15 Dec 2009 Posts: 2642 Location: USA