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Midnight Sun Pup 002 with 2.6.35.7 and 003 with 2.6.38.4
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pemasu


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PostPosted: Thu 30 Jun 2011, 05:49    Post subject:  

3g connection did it again. It reported succesfull loading. Well....
Reuploaded now.
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nooby

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PostPosted: Thu 30 Jun 2011, 07:05    Post subject:  

Re the 1024 x 768 that only show x 600 I found an easy work around.

One can use IceWM instead of JWM and that allow both Chique and Viewnior to show pics in 1024 x 768.

My very noob question. I am sure of you already told me and that I have written it down too but sadly I don't know where to find it. One need to know search word for it to find it on the internet.

Why does these latest versions like Midnight Sun Pup-001 make the CPU much warmer? The fan ran all time to cool it down while on Snow Puppy 5 then it is some 5 degrees cooler and the fan only is needed for demanding jobs? Maybe it is the FF 5 that is more demanding then the FF 3.6.16?

I am too lazy to test it again and again. I am back using Snow 5 instead.
I love to have a totally silent computer

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pemasu


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PostPosted: Thu 30 Jun 2011, 07:40    Post subject:  

Nooby. About that resolution problem. I use now JWM 493 and the package is not maybe the same I have used before. I tested JWM 500 but that had problem when dragging folder upwards, it didnt stick in the upper border but slided under the lower border. I didnt like that. Maybe I need to chase the JWM 493 package from my hdd storages which I used before. I think it was the one Barry Kauler provided, but he has changed to the JWM 500 now.

About that cpu - fan difference. Snow Puppy 005 used my first compiled kernel, which had problems when used kernel source sfs. Some of the compiles failed.
So I recompiled it and changed some specs which might have caused your fan problem. Not sure of course.
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PostPosted: Thu 30 Jun 2011, 08:25    Post subject:  

I used before jwm2-4.9.2-lupu and jwmconfig2-20101229-bk1. Now I have jwm2-493-patched-q1. Latest Snow Puppy had jwm2-500-1.
It seems that jwm2-4.9.2-lupu produces best resolution for netbooks in jwm or jwm 500, not sure, but it has that window border problem.
I might change back to that jwm2-4.9.2-lupu if there isnt any other usability concerns.
Good to know that Icewm is solution anyway.
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PostPosted: Thu 30 Jun 2011, 09:10    Post subject:  

Today we have freshly smoked fish for lunch. We use fresh alder for smoking.
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PostPosted: Thu 30 Jun 2011, 09:41    Post subject:  

Sfs_load-1.1 has bug in /etc/init.d/sfs_load script. It affects loading of usb media.
The bug has been there all the time, but it was found recently and posted in another thread. I made a fixed pet for it to use it in the woof.
You can load the whole pet or extract it and replace only that above script.
The problem affects all my earlier Puppies and all self installed Sfs_load-.1.1-pet installations.
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Colonel Panic


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PostPosted: Thu 30 Jun 2011, 10:54    Post subject:  

Looks good, just downloading it now. Smile
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Jim1911

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PostPosted: Thu 30 Jun 2011, 12:05    Post subject:  

Hi pemasu,

Fresh frugal installation of Midnight Sun Pup-002 looks good. It doesn't have the problems that I reported earlier with 001.

@Nividia driver installers

Recommend that the nouveau module at /lib/modules/2.6.35.7/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/ be deleted rather than trying to blacklist the module. Then reboot, go to prompt, and install the new nividia driver. That prevents the nouveau conflict with the new driver.

Cheers,
Jim
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pemasu


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PostPosted: Thu 30 Jun 2011, 12:16    Post subject:  

Jim1911. Great to hear it worked right. I used whole new set of ubuntu package base. 815 packages were changed. I suspected my packages-deb folder was somehow corrupted, so copied the whole deb folder from another woof build. I cant download them from ubuntu repos due to this slow and unreliable 3g connection.

About that nouveau module. Your method is good one. There is anyway allways the backup in /initrd/ro_2. I dont know if anyone uses that nouveau. Probably if I dont include it, I will find out, lol.

There is now psync-2.2 update. It fixes the Europe region bug when autostarting at boot time. I downloaded and here is the pet also.
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Béèm


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Location: Brussels IBM Thinkpad R40, 256MB, 20GB, WiFi ipw2100. Frugal Lin'N'Win

PostPosted: Thu 30 Jun 2011, 13:52    Post subject:  

pemasu wrote:
3g connection did it again. It reported succesfull loading. Well....
Reuploaded now.
I had seen that there were issues even before you announced the 002 Wink
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James C


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PostPosted: Thu 30 Jun 2011, 15:44    Post subject:  

Midnightsunpup-002 live pfix=ram on my main Linux box. Firefox works now. Smile

Everything working and correct on initial boot......internet,sound and display.

Thu 30 Jun 2011 Operating System: Midnight Sun Pup-002 Linux 2.6.35.7
0.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)
oem: NVidia product: NV18 () Board Chip Rev A2

X Server: Xorg Driver: unknown
X.Org version: 1.7.6
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (411x263 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa Project
OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 7.7.1

AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Core 0: 1998 MHz

...the above also recorded at '/tmp/root/report-video-glx'.

sh-4.1# glxgears
558 frames in 5.0 seconds
543 frames in 5.0 seconds
539 frames in 5.0 seconds
544 frames in 5.0 seconds
576 frames in 5.0 seconds
544 frames in 5.0 seconds
562 frames in 5.0 seconds

Planning to do a frugal install later when I get a bit of extra time.Looks good so far though.
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pemasu


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PostPosted: Thu 30 Jun 2011, 16:32    Post subject:  

James C. Thank you of your feedback. Looks good so far.
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James C


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PostPosted: Thu 30 Jun 2011, 17:42    Post subject:  

Midnightsun Pup-002 live pfix=ram.Only little problem, can only get 1600x1200 resolution instead of my desired 1440x900.

Thu 30 Jun 2011 Operating System: Midnight Sun Pup-002 Linux 2.6.35.7
0.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 10c3 (rev a2)
oem: NVIDIA product: GT218 Board - 08740005 Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg Driver: vesa
X.Org version: 1.7.6
dimensions: 1600x1200 pixels (423x318 millimeters)
depth of root window: 16 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa Project
OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 7.7.1

AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+
Core 0: 2693 1: 2693 MHz

...the above also recorded at '/tmp/root/report-video-glx'.


The actual card is a GeForce 8400 GS pci-x 2.0x16.

-Computer-
Processor : 2x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+
Memory : 3114MB (218MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Thu 30 Jun 2011 04:53:57 PM GMT-8
-Display-
Resolution : 1600x1200 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Software Rasterizer
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia

sh-4.1# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 3114932 710488 2404444 0 84004
Swap: 4194300 0 4194300
Total: 7309232 710488 6598744
sh-4.1#
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PostPosted: Thu 30 Jun 2011, 18:07    Post subject:  

Installed the 002.
My applications run.
But I also have the fan running more often and the temperature somewhat higher.
Code:
vr 1 jul 2011  Operating System: Midnight Sun Pup-002  Linux 2.6.35.7
 0.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] 
 oem: ATI MOBILITY RADEON 7500 

X Server: Xorg   Driver:  radeon
X.Org version: 1.7.6
  dimensions:    1024x768 pixels (270x203 millimeters)
  depth of root window:    24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R100 (RV200 4C57) 20090101 AGP 4x x86/MMX/SSE2 TCL
OpenGL version string: 1.3 Mesa 7.7.1

Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1400MHz
 Core 0: Intel(R)  1: 1395  MHz

...the above also recorded at '/tmp/root/report-video-glx'.

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PostPosted: Thu 30 Jun 2011, 19:17    Post subject:  

002 live pfix=ram on a different box but with a GeForce 8400 GS also. Everything good on initial boot including display.

Thu 30 Jun 2011 Operating System: Midnight Sun Pup-002 Linux 2.6.35.7
0.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G98 [GeForce 8400 GS] (rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA product: G98 Board - 5610002u Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg Driver: unknown
X.Org version: 1.7.6
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa Project
OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 7.7.1

Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.80GHz
Core 0: 2806 MHz

...the above also recorded at '/tmp/root/report-video-glx'.

sh-4.1# glxgears
479 frames in 5.0 seconds
475 frames in 5.0 seconds
490 frames in 5.0 seconds
481 frames in 5.0 seconds



-Computer-
Processor : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.80GHz
Memory : 1034MB (197MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Thu 30 Jun 2011 06:29:12 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Software Rasterizer
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : CMI8738-MC6 - C-Media CMI8738
Audio Adapter : ICH4 - Intel ICH5
Ethernet controller : ADMtek NC100 Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 10/100 (rev 11)
Multimedia audio controller : C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev 10)
VGA compatible controller : nVidia Corporation G98 [GeForce 8400 GS] (rev a1)


sh-4.1# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 1034628 642092 392536 0 71996
Swap: 2150396 0 2150396
Total: 3185024 642092 2542932
sh-4.1#
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