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Fatdog64-520 beta 1
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Billtoo

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PostPosted: Tue 21 Jun 2011, 17:50    Post subject:  
kirk wrote:


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The verdict: forget about installing the proprietary video driver
on a DVD+RW disk.


Was that with a Nvidia card too?



Yes, the same nvidia 8600gt.It booted straight to the desktop.

I'm having to boot "fatdog nomodeset pfix=vesa" on another pc that has a ati card in it. It's a frugal install and after rebooting and making a save file the screen comes up almost unusable.I guess I'll have to wait until an ati pet is available, I've had no luck trying to install the proprietary driver, x won't start after the driver is finished compiling.
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kirk

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PostPosted: Tue 21 Jun 2011, 19:57    Post subject:  
Bill,

Did you have the same results with the ATI box and 511? Could you try booting radeon.modeset=1. I have a Radeon hd500 which works poorly by default, but it did with 511 too. The radeonhd driver works well with it though. To use the radeonhd driver run the Xorgwizard from the menu to create a detailed xorg.conf. Then edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the driver from "radeon" to "radeonhd".


I uploaded a Seamonkey-2.1 pet to the repo. Thinking about making a Firefox iso and a Seamonkey iso.
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rcrsn51


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PostPosted: Tue 21 Jun 2011, 20:20    Post subject: Re: Fatdog64-520 beta 1
Subject description: All 64bit		  
kirk wrote:
Cups-1.4.5 (No libusb, I hope. Configure options have changed.)

This looks good. Drivers that need to access /dev/usb/lp0 should now work.
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playdayz


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PostPosted: Tue 21 Jun 2011, 21:01    Post subject:  
This is Firefox 5.0 b7. It's the fastest gecko-based browser I have tested--and about 10% faster on Fatdog than on Lucid. I did nothing in terms of optimization so it should run on any cpu that runs Fatdog. It was compiled in FD 520 beta 1.
Code:
./configure --prefix=/usr --disable-dbus --disable-hal --disable-crashreporter --enable-strip --enable-application=suite --disable-libnotify


http://diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/firefox64-5.0b7-fd64.pet

kirk, the radeonhd driver seems to have solved the problem I reported.
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kirk

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PostPosted: Tue 21 Jun 2011, 21:41    Post subject:  
playdayz,

Did you have the same problem with 511 and that radeon? Did you try radeon.modeset=1? Really need that info.
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James C


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PostPosted: Tue 21 Jun 2011, 22:06    Post subject:  
Fatdog64-520 live multi-session dvd. Initial boot had working and correct sound,internet and display.

-Computer-
Processor : 4x AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 620 Processor
Memory : 3796MB (263MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.50
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Tue 21 Jun 2011 09:14:01 PM GMT+5
-Display-
Resolution : 1366x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Software Rasterizer
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
Audio Adapter : PC-Speaker - pcsp
Audio device : nVidia Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio
VGA compatible controller : nVidia Corporation C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a]

# glxgears
2481 frames in 5.0 seconds = 496.179 FPS
2517 frames in 5.0 seconds = 503.386 FPS
2540 frames in 5.0 seconds = 507.864 FPS
2551 frames in 5.0 seconds = 510.005 FPS
2553 frames in 5.0 seconds = 510.537 FPS
2525 frames in 5.0 seconds = 504.867 FPS
2587 frames in 5.0 seconds = 517.368 FPS
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playdayz


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PostPosted: Tue 21 Jun 2011, 22:22    Post subject:  
kirk wrote:
playdayz,

Did you have the same problem with 511 and that radeon? Did you try radeon.modeset=1? Really need that info.


No, as I remember there was no problem with FD 511 and the radeon. I will test modeset. As I recall, in Lucid we used a file to activate that (modeset=1 for radeons) all of the time. I will boot Lucid and tell you what it was.
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kirk

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PostPosted: Tue 21 Jun 2011, 22:43    Post subject:  
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No, as I remember there was no problem with FD 511 and the radeon. I will test modeset. As I recall, in Lucid we used a file to activate that (modeset=1 for radeons) all of the time. I will boot Lucid and tell you what it was.


Yes, that would be set in modprobe.d. radeon.modeset=1 actually breaks my box with the hd5500, but it's connected to a TV by a HDMI cable. So maybe HDMI is not well supported by the KMS driver. That's why I'm asking to see what would be the best default.
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PostPosted: Tue 21 Jun 2011, 22:45    Post subject:  
Results: I edited the boot parameters and inserted radeon.modeset=1. I had previously verified that the radeon driver was specified in xorg.conf. Xorg started to a frozen screen, with a predominantly white pattern on it Wink After CTRL-ALT-BS, I had a blank screen. I did this twice. When I used radeon.modeset=0, the boot process failed to get even to starting X.

I misremembered, in lucid we have a file /etc/modprobe.d/i915.conf that contains options i915 modeset=1. I do remember that 945G and a few others were a pain without that (but we don have that for radeon).

The radeonhd driver seems to be working well. Oh, I should say this card is an HD 3850. (I also have a 4650 I can test.)

I moved these down here.
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Billtoo

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PostPosted: Wed 22 Jun 2011, 00:19    Post subject:  
kirk wrote:
Bill,

Did you have the same results with the ATI box and 511? Could you try booting radeon.modeset=1. I have a Radeon hd500 which works poorly by default, but it did with 511 too. The radeonhd driver works well with it though. To use the radeonhd driver run the Xorgwizard from the menu to create a detailed xorg.conf. Then edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the driver from "radeon" to "radeonhd".


I swapped the monitor for another one, the one I was using has an hdmi
port and it seems to cause problems with anything other than vesa.
But on other pups I can install the proprietary driver and it's okay
after doing that.

My menu.lst line is this:
kernel /fatdog520b1/vmlinuz pmedia=atahd psubdir=fatdog520b1 fatdog radeon.modeset=1 pfix=fsck

The xorg.conf is:
#Special base config file used in Puppy Linux.

Section "ServerFlags"
Option "AllowMouseOpenFail" "true"
Option "AutoAddDevices" "False" # No HAL
Option "DontZap" "false"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "Configured Video Device"
#Driver "radeonhd"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Configured Monitor"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Default Screen"
Monitor "Configured Monitor"
Device "Configured Video Device"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc102"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" #mouse0protocol
Option "MatchDevicePath" "/dev/mouse"
#Option "Emulate3Buttons"
#Option "Emulate3Timeout" "50"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" #scrollwheel
EndSection

If I change the menu.lst line it throws a wrench into the works and
x won't start.
It boots to the desktop everytime this way, videos play fine.
# glxgears
3550 frames in 5.0 seconds = 709.835 FPS
3559 frames in 5.0 seconds = 711.612 FPS
3562 frames in 5.0 seconds = 712.353 FPS
Display
Resolution 1440x900 pixels
Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Version 1.9.5
OpenGL
Vendor Mesa Project
Renderer Software Rasterizer
Version 2.1 Mesa 7.10.2
Direct Rendering Yes
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PostPosted: Wed 22 Jun 2011, 00:31    Post subject:  
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You mean fatdog pfix=ram if booting from CD or just pfix=ram from GRUB.

Embarassed I forgot to use 'fatdog pfix=ram' instead of 'puppy pfix=ram', basically that would explain why the old settings were retained . . . most puplets use 'puppy pfix=ram' method - many thanks Smile
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Ray MK


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PostPosted: Wed 22 Jun 2011, 04:59    Post subject:  
Hi kirk

Booted from CD on my new laptop (e-machines E732)
after copying FD-520.sfs to sda3 NTFS partition.

Within a matter of only a few seconds I’m looking at a fully populated desktop. Fantastic.

Edited xorg.conf to setup touch-pad (before I noticed Adjust Touch Pad in the Setup menu), restarted X and all good.

Set timezone and locale, noticed frisbee was a bit slow to allocate an IP address, (I like frisbee and pwireless but on this particular laptop they don’t seem so happy - not sure why), so I used the Network Wizard to setup wifi - nice, ultra quick, fairly easy and seems to be a good belt and braces alternative for when frisbee doesn’t want to play.

Installed htop-0.9x86_64.pet from FD64-511 (works fine) and then installed JRB’s SFS-TCZ_Linker-2.2.pet, loaded Opera-11.11x86_64.sfs on the fly (ie live - no save_file) and bingo - here I am.

Very nice puppy, very frugal on resources and seems to be even faster than FD64-511, must be special FD64-520 magic and the new kernel.

Many, many thanks to all involved in the making making of this absolutely superb puppy.

Much appreciation and very best regards - Ray.
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kirk

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PostPosted: Wed 22 Jun 2011, 07:27    Post subject:  
Bill,
Quote:
If I change the menu.lst line it throws a wrench into the works and
x won't start.
It boots to the desktop everytime this way, videos play fine.


So when not using HDMI, you have to have radeon.modset=1 on your kernel line or you get a black screen, correct? If you're using the HDMI port vesa is the only working option? If your kernel line was this:

kernel /fatdog520b1/vmlinuz pmedia=atahd psubdir=fatdog520b1 pfix=fsck

and you're connected to HDMI you get a black screen?

Same results with 511?

Playdaz,

Are you using HdMI?

Ray MK,

Thanks for the report. Sorry about the ironlake graphics Smile
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PostPosted: Wed 22 Jun 2011, 09:28    Post subject:  
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PostPosted: Wed 22 Jun 2011, 09:42    Post subject:  
[quote="Billtoo"][quote="kirk"]Bill,
Quote:
If I change the menu.lst line it throws a wrench into the works and
x won't start.
It boots to the desktop everytime this way, videos play fine.


[quote]So when not using HDMI, you have to have radeon.modset=1 on your kernel line or you get a black screen, correct?[quote]

It boots up and when it tries to load x it fails and I am left at the prompt,if I enter xorgwizard two or three times and then xwin it will go to the desktop.

[quote] If you're using the HDMI port vesa is the only working option?[quote]

Actually I had an hdmi cable,vga cable,and dvi cable all hooked up,fatdog nomodeset vesa,ram got a screen but at the wrong resolution and after running xorgwizard and editing the xorg.conf ,changing the menu.lst line back and then rebooting the screen is at what looks like 1920x1080 but faint and overlaps one side of the screen, unuseable.
The dvi and hdmi cables were connected to the 5470 and the vga cable was still connected to the disabled onboard hd3200.

[quote] If your kernel line was this:
kernel /fatdog520b1/vmlinuz pmedia=atahd psubdir=fatdog520b1 pfix=fsck
and you're connected to HDMI you get a black screen?[quote]

right, if it's the first boot with no save file yet.

[quote]Same results with 511?[quote]

I never tried this setup with 511, I just changed the monitor and put the 5470 ati card in this pc a couple of weeks ago, it has an onboard hd3200 chip which I using using before.

I think what I've said is accurate but to be honest I've tried so many things I'm confused at this point.Right now it has a 17" hp monitor hooked up via the dvi cable and it's working fine at 1440x900.

and all these quotes are a pain too, having a bad day I guess.
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