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#706 Post by Colonel Panic »

James C wrote:
Colonel Panic wrote: Interesting, because I thought Porteus was the evolutionary successor to Slax? So there are at least two forks of Slax now in development?
Not really. Since Tomas is the original developer of Slax it's just a continuation of the original Slax ...... another case of real life causing a break in development. During the time Tomas took a break from development the Porteus developers forked.
So, the original Slax is back while Porteus is a fork.
Oh I see James, thanks for correcting my misunderstanding. I'm downloading Slax now, it looks worth a try.

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#707 Post by Colonel Panic »

I've just downloaded Slax 6.12 and am posting from it now. It's amazing what the devs have managed to pack into 200 MB - it'd no doubt be sacrilege here to say it's a rival for Puppy Slacko, but I feel I should say that I'm playing a music video in Firefox now without having to download Flash first and I wish that could be taken for granted with Puppy too.
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#708 Post by James C »

Colonel Panic wrote:I've just downloaded Slax 6.12 and am posting from it now. It's amazing what the devs have managed to pack into 200 MB - it';d no doubt be sacrilege here to say it;s a rival for Puppy Slacko, but I shoukld say that I'm playing a music video in Firefox now without having to download Flash first and I wish that could be taken for granted with Puppy too.
It's not bad for something that was released in 2009........ :) Still holds up well though. The new Slax 7 should be interesting ..... still in pre-alpha though.

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#709 Post by Colonel Panic »

James C wrote:It's not bad for something that was released in 2009........ :) Still holds up well though.
Yeah, I've just noticed the Firefox version - 3.5.1, and it still works fine with Flash. KDE 3.5.10 is still a goodie too.
James C wrote:The new Slax 7 should be interesting ..... still in pre-alpha though.
Agreed.
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#710 Post by James C »

Trying out Tiny Core .....
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#711 Post by bark_bark_bark »

Tiny Core is my second favorite distro. (My first is Puppy.) I use TinyCore on my 1gb flash drive directly
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#712 Post by bark_bark_bark »

Today I downloaded Slackware 14 32bit. I am having trouble installing it in Virtualbox though. Anyways the stable came out yesterday, so i'd thought I'll download it. Downloading it from the website on a slow connection sure beats having to pay $50 for it to be mailed to my house.
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#713 Post by Pelo »

Dpup exprimo : load dependancies again and again.
Is it a Puppy ?
If i want debian, i use Debian,
No plus-value.

Pelo

Slax and Porteus are not the same ?

#714 Post by Pelo »

Slax and Porteus are not the same ?
I like Porteus. I have it on a USB Stick. Very pretty, Well. Nothing to say.
Perfect connexions, sound is perfect.
But... But....
But i am used to puppies.

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Re: Dpup exprimo will soon be trashed !

#715 Post by smokey01 »

Pelo wrote:Dpup exprimo : load dependancies again and again.
Is it a Puppy ?
If i want debian, i use Debian,
No plus-value.
Except for the speed and size, yes?

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#716 Post by 01micko »

Slackware 14 running Pmusic ????

(tip : ssh :P )

Also did a NFS install to my eeepc 701sd, no KDE. xfce is enough for that (and this, celeron 2.6)
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#717 Post by bark_bark_bark »

I am still having trouble installing Slackware 14. Since I will end up getting a 16GB USB flash Drive, I think I'll put it on there and use that with my old dell (my old dell got it's hard drive removed).
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#718 Post by 01micko »

bark_bark_bark wrote:I am still having trouble installing Slackware 14. Since I will end up getting a 16GB USB flash Drive, I think I'll put it on there and use that with my old dell (my old dell got it's hard drive removed).
I would advise against trying to install Slackware to a usb stick. The only thing to install to a usb stick is the usbboot.img which only contains the installer and some basic tools to get you installed from another location such as folder on your hard drive or a local network location. I had to use that to install to my eee pc and I'll have to again as I'm setting up a server with no DVD drive. I am going to lock that baby down tight!

If you want to persist I highly recommend reading all of the documentation contained on the DVD.

Just for interests sake, I had peppermint on the eee before I decided to put 14 on it. I could not think of a worse OS for a eee! Windows were off screen everywhere. Ships with google browser which is supposed to be netbook friendly. Not this one.

Horses for courses I guess.
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#719 Post by bark_bark_bark »

Well I have the CD version and not the DVD version. Do any the 4 main CDs have enough documentation? I know how to install it but I keep on getting "input/output" errors when the pkgs are being installed.
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#720 Post by 01micko »

bark_bark_bark wrote:Well I have the CD version and not the DVD version. Do any the 4 main CDs have enough documentation? I know how to install it but I keep on getting "input/output" errors when the pkgs are being installed.
Input/output errors are either one of two things, a bad burn or your CD reader is struggling, likely due to age. Maybe try a slower burn speed.

I haven't done a CD install in years, but I think all the docs are on the first CD. I don't know how much system you'll get with only 1 CD, you are likely not to get X, in which case, once installed you would need to run slackpkg (after manually choosing a mirror) and install packages. If you know how to setup an NFS server on another linux machine then it should install. You can also install it from a windows share, but you need password-less access, and the ability to mount the CD in windows. Of course a Linux samba share works similarly.

Here a fellow has installed to a USB stick, but he wants to make it portable, something lilo isn't really suited to. Grub4dos works fine with Slackware.

Don't be afraid to ask questions on LQ. It's a pretty friendly place there as long as you follow the etiquette.
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#721 Post by bark_bark_bark »

I have the All CDs except for CD 5 and 6 (those have the sources and aren't needed for installation). I burned the CDs @ 4x or 8x, so it may be the CD drive.
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#722 Post by starhawk »

Just FINALLY got to trying out DamnSmall (the new one). It's a definite improvement! They need a nicer desktop font, and it looks like they're still using GTK1 (not sure, honestly) but for a 50mb distro... not bad.

My main complaint, which is one I have of a LOT of distros (not Puppy!) is the wireless config. It looks like they have a few built-in drivers, which is nice, but folks -- if you're advocating independence from Windows, why are you still using their drivers for a critical part of your OS? Especially with a CLI tool? (ndisgtk is at least graphical!)

I dunno. It just doesn't make sense to me.

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#723 Post by Colonel Panic »

I've just downloaded OpenSUSE 12.2 (the DVD version) and tried to install it to hard disk, but I found the hard drive partitioner awkward and confusing. There didn't seem to be any way to select which partition I was going to use as my root and which one as my home partition (and to be left unformatted), as there is with Mint. I didn't want to overwrite any more of my existing Linux partitions than the one I'd be using as root, so in the end I gave up and installed Mint 13 XFce instead :)

I think Open SUSE needs more work, and Dedoimedo. who's just reviewed it, clearly thinks so too;

http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/opensuse-12-2.html
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Knoppix 7.0.4 LiveDVD EN is out

#724 Post by otropogo »

Have just downloaded (from Kernel.org), burned, and successfully installed to flash card the English version of Knoppix 7.0.4.

I'd been relying on Knoppix exclusively for internet connectivity for two weeks recently, while staying in hotels with only Wifi connections. Puppy was unable to configure my Toshiba Laptop's Realtek Wifi chip. None of the included drivers worked, and Ndiswrapper declared the Windows7 drivers on my Windows installation "invalid". Knoppix 7.0.2 configured the wifi connection automatically.

I went looking for a later version of Knoppix when I found I couldn't access my new camera's 64GB SDXC flash memory card with either Puppy or Knoppix 7.0.2., and discovered two updates had already been released.

I downloaded the 7.0.4 iso, checked the md5sum, and then burned it with Burniso2CD (as Pburn failed to recognize my writable media - as described in the Pburn thread). The verify function of Burniso2CD was unable to verify the burn, but I decided to try booting the DVD anyway, and it worked. It also failed the Knoppix "testcd" function, but continued to boot and load without evidence of problems, so I decided to install it to flash, using a Class 4 8GB microSD card in a Delkin USB3.0 card reader attached to the Toshiba via a Sabrent expressbus USB3.0 adapter.

I chose to preserve the data on the card, and the installation took well over an hour, including the creation of a 2.5GB storage space (needed to hold any new applications you choose to install). Presumably using USB 2.0 would have taken much more time, unless perhaps one chooses the option of dedicating the entire card to the OS.

However, the installation booted without problems from the USB2.0 port, and I was able to configure and save the Knoppix Firewall and then go online with Software Center to install RawStudio and UFRaw to support the RAW files on my 64GB flash card.

However, the SDXC card support was a bit of a disappointment. When inserted in the Toshiba's internal SD/XD slot, the SDXC card was accessible, but in the USB3.0 card reader, it was not. It would appear for a fraction of a second as either "64MB file system" or "sde1", then vanish. Numerous attempts to open the folder failed with the message "..not found".

This is a major disappointment, since the USB3.0 card reader typically reads at least twice as fast as the Toshiba's internal slot.

A 16GB Dane-elec SDHC card WAS readable in the Delkin Card reader.

Despite this setback, I believe Knoppix 7 is a winner. Klaus Knopper has hit another home run after a long dry spell. And he seems to be keen to run with it, judging by the pace of revisions. And I'm hopeful the SDXC issue will be fixed by a new Linux Kernel fairly soon.

Certainly it's worth a try. But one word of warning regarding the flash install - my first two Knoppix Flash installations were to thumb drives with sliding USB connectors. I strongly advise against them, as they've given me hours of frustration. Many times the Bios has simply failed to detect the media, whether booting or not, even though the plug is firmly inserted in the jack. The exercise reminds me of the terrible experience of loading programs from a cassette recorder, back in the days before even floppy drives.

I boot my 7.0.4 install from an 8GB (the minimum size required for the LiveDVD) microSD card installed in a solid USB adapter (the little rectangular box, the size of a baby's finger). Another option would be the tiny solid "key drives". The inherent instability and leverage of the standard thumbdrives with sliding connectors puts both the medium and your USB port at risk.

I don't know if it makes sense to shop for a faster card than the Class 4 SDHC ones most commonly available. In my area (Calgary hinterland), speed ratings on thumb drives have only just started to appear in a few models.

But if you have a PC with an internal USB3.0 connector that allows booting (my expressbus adapter doesn't), media speed might be a worthwhile consideration.

I haven't tried the LiveCD version flash install, but for those with bootable USB3.0 capability, that might be an inexpensive way to test the speed gain, as I believe you can install the LiveCD to a flash card as small as 2GB, certainly 4GB is more than enough, as the LiveDVD installation only takes up 4GB of my 8GB card.
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#725 Post by James C »

Manjaro Linux....... based on Arch and using k-3.4.9-1.
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