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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Sat 28 Jan 2012, 11:54    Post subject: Other Distros  

I've been using ubuntu 11.10 for a couple of weeks, it has some nice
features such as the update manager which shows available security
updates,recommended updates, etc.
The Ubuntu Software Centre is nice too.
I'm even getting used to entering my password often.

I still use puppy daily, I doubt if that will change anytime soon Smile

EDIT: I put another buntu (Xubuntu 11.10) on an Athlon dual core pc today, it's working nice too.
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nooby

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PostPosted: Sat 28 Jan 2012, 13:05    Post subject:  

But is it not true that you need to do a full install?

I mean how useful is it used in "Live Session User mode"
using frugal install?

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PostPosted: Sat 28 Jan 2012, 13:13    Post subject:  

nooby wrote:
But is it not true that you need to do a full install?

I mean how useful is it used in "Live Session User mode"
using frugal install?


I did a full install, I can still run puppy from a flash drive or run the live dvd with a save file on a usb drive etc.
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Colonel Panic


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PostPosted: Sat 28 Jan 2012, 14:44    Post subject:  

Colonel Panic wrote:
A quick update; I've now downloaded Quelitu and run it live. It looks good and runs well on my old Compaq, but like Nooby I wasn't able to install Flash in a live session, so for the time being it's another distro to keep in "reserve".

I've also tried CTKArch, a live disk based on Arch Linux, but the hard drive install failed to produce a working XOrg on my machine so at the moment I can't recommend that one either (unless you want to get to grips with how Arch works, for which it's probably very good).

1,000 posts here I come!


Another quick update; CTKArch works just fine without an xorg,conf file (apparently the newest versions of Xorg don't need it). So I'm posting from CTKArch now, having added a good compliment of extras from the Arch repositories.

The software is a bit antiquated for a 2012 distro (Firefox 4.0 for a start) but it all seems to work well. Its author is a 20 year old French guy;

http://ctkarch.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1&t_id=17

P.S. 1,000 posts now; do I say "Yay!" or "Oh hell!"?

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PostPosted: Sat 28 Jan 2012, 15:44    Post subject:  

CP wrote:
P.S. 1,000 posts now; do I say "Yay!" or "Oh hell!"?


It's a matter of choice!

I say, 'Where have you been hiding?....'
I joined after you, but have nearly 6500 posts, and have tried both 'Yay' and 'Oh Hell' a few times, but still keep posting as I can't make my mind up which to choose Wink

I'm currently drawn to look at bodhi and mint-xfce out of boredom, I might add ctkarch, too, thanks

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kooliepup


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PostPosted: Sat 28 Jan 2012, 16:04    Post subject:  

Bodhi is so good.

It is just the basics, and you have to add the apps you want.
That's what I like.

Apps are easy to install.
It can be VERY easily remastered with Remastersys (included).
You can set a root password and run as root.

Enjoy it.

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PostPosted: Sat 28 Jan 2012, 16:15    Post subject:  

oops I have some 7000 that is kind of surprising Smile

Anyway I feel so envy about all those geeks that get
CorePlus going. I totally failed to get what RobertS
told the fans of TinyCore to do and I don't dare to ask
them again. They seems very irritated when one fail to
get their instructions.

Here is what one guy say on DW.
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63 • Tiny Core (by DJ on 2012-01-27 11:51:49 GMT from Germany)

I think here is something everyone should know;

When getting started with the Core Project you have 3 different download options: Core, TinyCore, and CorePlus. TinyCore and CorePlus are simply Core plus additional extensions.

TinyCore (12 MB) - This is the recommended option for new users who have a wired network connection. It includes the base Core system plus extensions for a FLWM graphical desktop environment.

CorePlus (48 MB) - This is the recommended option for new users who only have a wireless network connection or who use a non-US keyboard layout. It includes the base Core System and extensions to provide the following: 6 Window Manager options, Wireless support, an installer, non-US keyboard support, and a remastering tool.


Oh Dear I am not a new user I am a too old user so I fail to
get how one do CorePlus.
Even to chose which one of the six WM is beyond me.

why on earth can they not allow that somebody smart
make a standard Puppy out of CorePlus so one can learn
how the end result should look like. Now one need to be
really smart to get it.

Have any of you done a frugal install of CorePlus?
How did you do it? Any suggestion?

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PostPosted: Sat 28 Jan 2012, 16:21    Post subject:  

kooliepup, they have sad news for you over at DW comments.

User forlin writes
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68 • Bodhi and Bloathi (by forlin on 2012-01-28 13:47:54 GMT from Portugal)
Samsung, the powerful Enlightenment patron,
is not interested at all about the E17 desktop
environment. The direct consequence is that Rasterman,
the Enlightenment founder, is currently developing it
himself, but almost alone. E17 just works, but it's not
progressing a inch.

Bodhi appeared at a time when there was almost any
decent E17 Linux distro.

Strong ambition and the users wish for a good E17 distro,
were the basis for its meteoric success.
Unfortunately, Bodhi founder is not is not the kind of a
Judd Vinet person. He says he can't even program, and
(excluding mediocre PR) showed little to none interest
about promoting E17 from inside Bodhi.

I see his kind of ambition as one driven by the wish to be
in the spotlight, and he did very well on that.

The problem is about the Bodhi future. It's tied to the E17
future and considering the current panorama, chances are
in 10 years, Bodhi will be just at where it is today.
More or less Bloathi will not change that.


Another small Ubuntu is PepperMint they have similar
ideas but maybe they are not into E17. Is that the main
reason you like it?

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PostPosted: Sat 28 Jan 2012, 18:28    Post subject:  

Nooby,

I like it for many reasons.
That does not mean that I am wedded to it.
I always go with whatever is best (IMHO) for a particular purpose.
Bodhi is my current live CD for online use.
It is better, for me, than anything else, including Puppy.
The remastered CD loads faster than a Puppy remaster
(and before anyone tells me, again, that Puppy live loads in 19 seconds or something,
I will say rename the whatever.sfs that is on your hard disc,
so it stops reading that instead of the one on the CD, and try again),
and it remasters better than Puppy,
and uses the best Network Manager.

I do like e17, but that is not a prime attraction.
e17 is a PIA for newcomers to it, and it is understandable why so many hate it.

When something better than Bodhi comes along, I'll use it.

Puppy is my choice for most other uses.
I have numerous Puppies set up, frugal-in-folder, for specific activities.

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PostPosted: Sun 29 Jan 2012, 17:05    Post subject:  

Just a tip for anyone who tries CTKArch (or ArchBang) and finds the theme a bit too dark in either case; fvwm-crystal (which can easily be installed from the arch repo) compliments it very well and is a very good, lightweight and attractive WM in its own right. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon 30 Jan 2012, 15:48    Post subject:  

I did not like Gnome 3, or unity and KDE 4.x is a bit too pokey. Bohdi loads from an SSD on my 6 year old machine to full usability in about 8 seconds.
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PostPosted: Mon 06 Feb 2012, 14:35    Post subject:  

Thanks for that comment. I'd quite like an SSD drive in my machine but I don't think it would work in a machine as old as mine.
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PostPosted: Mon 06 Feb 2012, 16:03    Post subject:  

Colonel Panic wrote:
Thanks for that comment. I'd quite like an SSD drive in my machine but I don't think it would work in a machine as old as mine.


Mine is about 6 years old. Sometimes the SATA 2 bus is a bit too slow to acquire the drive and I have to perform a 3-finger salute before to machine will actually see the SSD. I am sure a Sata 3 card would resolve this, but right now it is not that much of a nuisance.
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PostPosted: Tue 07 Feb 2012, 08:32    Post subject:  

CP
If you have an IDE PC you can get 4/8/16/32/64Gb DOM nandflash devices....but they go pricey for both big and small

16Gb are about £35, kingspec do both 40 and 44 pin types for lappys

You can also get 1.8" devices and an adapter to 44 pin,

....however many require a 4 pin ide power connector, such as this shows, and power leads are often not supplied

http://preview.tinyurl.com/7e766hj

CF flash in an adapter is a cheaper route - £1/Gb, but they're a bit slower, unless you get x133/200 speed, but do work in older PCs

Otherwise try class10 microSD in a USB adapter, if you're happy to use wakepup/PLOP to boot up

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PostPosted: Tue 07 Feb 2012, 16:05    Post subject:  

a bit more here:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=602633#602633
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