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starhawk

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PostPosted: Sun 22 Jan 2012, 23:21    Post subject:  

Downloading xPUD right now, to see what it's like. Looks cool. (No, not as cool as Puppy Wink )

EDIT: posting this from xPUD! Very nice. FWIW, the guy who makes it (Penk, he calls himself) is a fan of Puppy. I've been emailing with him, and I just sent him a few suggestions. All little stuff.

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PostPosted: Mon 23 Jan 2012, 06:35    Post subject:  

Thanks, would be cool to know how to get the internet going
and if I can borrow drivers from Puppy or standard ubuntu
that finds my internet right away each time.

And how to go around the "Live Session User" lack of
permission to write to the drive one used frugal install
to boot from.

That would be very nice.

Edit I have an Acer D250 Netbook

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PostPosted: Mon 23 Jan 2012, 11:49    Post subject:  

There's an extra-software repository. Go here and click the tab labeled "Get More Apps". You probably need the extra drivers package. Just place it in /opt and reboot -- it loads automatically.

If that doesn't work, email the developer -- his Contact Us link is a "mailto" that goes to his personal address. Seems like a really nice and helpful guy. He may be able to tell you how to use Deb packages in there, since it's ubuntu based.

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PostPosted: Mon 23 Jan 2012, 11:53    Post subject:  

Thanks yes I did include these but I am not sure if them
got included or not. I may have set it up wrong.

No hurry. I give it some time to mature

Today I tested two other linuxes.
Snowlinux but the Ubuntu version. They ahve three Debian
versions but these would not allow me to write to the drive
that I boot from so no need to test them.

Snowlinux was not as good as other ubuntu's that I have used.

I also tested Bloathi which is a fat fat version of Bodhi that
is as slim as they prefer. I like Bodhi and Bloathi but
they are not as good as Netrunner and USU which server
my needs better due to my "cheat" booting.

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PostPosted: Tue 24 Jan 2012, 12:20    Post subject:  

Frugal installed latest Porteus 1.1 today - they sure pack a lot of applications into their 255mb .iso - just a shame it is KDE Confused

here is Grub2 code i used (found on porteus forum)
Code:

menuentry "Porteus v11_32" {
           set root='(hd0,1)'
           linux /32bit_v11/boot/vmlinuz from_dev=/dev/sda1 from_dir=/32bit_v11/porteus changes=/mnt/sda1/32bit_v11/cfg_v11 toroot autoexec=xconf; max_loop=256
           initrd /32bit_v11/boot/initrd.xz
}
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PostPosted: Tue 24 Jan 2012, 12:36    Post subject:  

Thanks for your code, much appreciated.
I tried to change it so it works in grub4dos instead.
I used this one
Quote:

title Porteus v11_32
root (hd0,2)
kernel /32bit_v11/boot/vmlinuz from_dev=/dev/sda3 from_dir=/32bit_v11/porteus changes=/mnt/sda3/32bit_v11/porteus11.dat toroot autoexec=xconf; max_loop=256 lxde fsck kmap=se vga=791
initrd /32bit_v11/boot/initrd.xz


LXDE should be like this instead lxde

Typically I failed to get adobe flash player was dependent on the adblock addon so one need to approve of using flash Smile
https://porteus.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=143

Now it all works. Again. once more Much appreciated that
you cared to give me the code that solved Porteus for me.
Now it works.

Puppy is the Champion.
Knoppix for Mr Knopper's long support for Live with having a CD that works without needing to be installed.
He pioneered that thinking so all kudos to him.
But I would not dare to join their forum. They hate noobs like me.

Porteus is my third choice for their friendly support forum and that they allow us to be root without forcing us to do sudo all the time and that they encourage frugal install too.

Then there is nothing and nothing and then my crazy "Cheat" iso booting. Not recommended to the faint of heart failure. Dangerous stuff that one. Smile

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Colonel Panic


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PostPosted: Thu 26 Jan 2012, 07:58    Post subject:  

Bert wrote:
Downloaded and installed Quelitu today.

Based on Lubuntu but much much nicer and over 100MB smaller.


It also seems a little lighter on resources than Lubuntu, on my computer at least. The Quelitu makers say it uses about the same memory as Lubuntu.

Quelitu is a green project, aimed at given older hardware a second life. (Min ram =250MB)
The default theme, while nice, has hmm..lots of green. This can eaisily be changed by choosing different colors or themes.
What I liked:
    Single-click everywhere by default (can be changed to double-click)
    Three ready made desktops available (default, mac-like and netbook/laptop)
    Quelitu is fast and friendly (ex win-users)
    Comes with a good selection of handy tools

Their blog has some screenshots
Think I'll keep following this project Wink


Quelitu's going to be my next one, for definite; it seems to be what I need. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

Cheers,

CP .

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PostPosted: Thu 26 Jan 2012, 08:15    Post subject:  

stu90 wrote:
Frugal installed latest Porteus 1.1 today - they sure pack a lot of applications into their 255mb .iso - just a shame it is KDE Confused

here is Grub2 code i used (found on porteus forum)
Code:

menuentry "Porteus v11_32" {
           set root='(hd0,1)'
           linux /32bit_v11/boot/vmlinuz from_dev=/dev/sda1 from_dir=/32bit_v11/porteus changes=/mnt/sda1/32bit_v11/cfg_v11 toroot autoexec=xconf; max_loop=256
           initrd /32bit_v11/boot/initrd.xz
}


yes but it does chose LXDE if you add lxde in the code there.

I failed at first writing LXDE but it has to be lxde for it to care Smile

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PostPosted: Thu 26 Jan 2012, 08:19    Post subject:  

xPUD, there is something about it that I really like.
Extreme fast booting. and the only bad thing for me
is that I happen to have a hardware that it has no driver for.

Failed to get LAN internet going. but it had wifi so if I
look up the password for my WPA then I most likely can use it? Surprising that he can make a Ubuntu that small.

I mean the smallest I've seen is some 700kb and his is 70kb or something like that. Amazing

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PostPosted: Thu 26 Jan 2012, 15:41    Post subject:  

I've been experimenting with multiboot usb installs and got these working together -

F4UBCD - falcon fours ultimate boot cd - lots of rescue tools, hirens, rip linux and minixp all included.
TAILS - the amnesic incognito live system - a linux disc based on debian live (always wanted to try debian but couldn't be bothered to install) which uses the Tor network.
Puppy Exprimo !

I installed the falcon4 disc to usb using the grub4dos installer, then hacked the menu list to boot the other two distros i extracted to the usb key.
It works well apart from tails not shutting down completely - normally it wipes the pc's ram when it shuts down but just hangs when booted this way but as everything is unmounted and stopped it is safe to hit the power switch!

its handy having windows, a secure linux and puppy all to hand Smile

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PostPosted: Fri 27 Jan 2012, 16:00    Post subject:  

......Someone gave me a little-bitty 32-gig SSD and I played with it a spell to no avail. It just seemed that my old system would only see the drive intermittently. After a time, I "gave up" and put the drive aside until I get around to buying a newer old mobo. Recently, I had a what-if thought pop into my head from nowhere and decided to put a part of Linux on a conventional drive to give the creaky old mobo a chance to see the SSD. I loaded Bodhi linux on the machine. I put /boot on the conventional SATA hda and / (all the rest) to the SSD. The result was that a full install of Bodhi Linux booted to a usable desktop in about 8 seconds! I am going to try an install of Lucid Pup tonight and see what happens, but the thing might boot so rapidly, it will be hard to time Smile
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PostPosted: Fri 27 Jan 2012, 16:00    Post subject:  

oops... a dupe got posted
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PostPosted: Sat 28 Jan 2012, 05:15    Post subject:  

Colonel Panic wrote:
Bert wrote:
Downloaded and installed Quelitu today.

Based on Lubuntu but much much nicer and over 100MB smaller.


It also seems a little lighter on resources than Lubuntu, on my computer at least. The Quelitu makers say it uses about the same memory as Lubuntu.

Quelitu is a green project, aimed at given older hardware a second life. (Min ram =250MB)
The default theme, while nice, has hmm..lots of green. This can eaisily be changed by choosing different colors or themes.
What I liked:
    Single-click everywhere by default (can be changed to double-click)
    Three ready made desktops available (default, mac-like and netbook/laptop)
    Quelitu is fast and friendly (ex win-users)
    Comes with a good selection of handy tools

Their blog has some screenshots
Think I'll keep following this project Wink


Quelitu's going to be my next one, for definite; it seems to be what I need. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

Cheers,

CP .


A quick update; I've now downloaded Quelitu and run it live. It looks good and runs well on my old Compaq, but like Nooby I wasn't able to install Flash in a live session, so for the time being it's another distro to keep in "reserve".

I've also tried CTKArch, a live disk based on Arch Linux, but the hard drive install failed to produce a working XOrg on my machine so at the moment I can't recommend that one either (unless you want to get to grips with how Arch works, for which it's probably very good).

1,000 posts here I come!

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PostPosted: Sat 28 Jan 2012, 07:26    Post subject:  

I just installed the latest Bodhi Linux on one of my old P3 test boxes. (1.0 Ghz/512 Mb ram) Pretty quick for one of the 'buntu's but I still prefer Macpup.
The base install is pretty stripped down...the Enlightenment wm and Midori so by the time I installed my preferred apps the installed size grew pretty rapidly.Pretty low resource usage.... but not as good as Puppy.
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PostPosted: Sat 28 Jan 2012, 10:50    Post subject:  

Bodhi has also a bigger version now named Bloathi
so that one is much bigger some 700MB or so and
have many of the software that people ask for in a distro.

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