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Posted: Sat 25 Jun 2011, 07:14
by nooby
Elive most likely is still pay if you want to install it properly.
Or have they changed policy? Live is free but then it is not easy
to make it remember country and time settings and keyboard
like setxkbmap se have to be used to get åäö
TinyCore has cone from discouraging of NTFS install to accepting NTFS OOTB but still warning about it. So that is a huge difference. From impossible for a complete noob to install frugal to NTFS hdd to at having a possibility to do it.
Cloud could work if one have it as complement to Puppy. That way if the cloud is down one would still be able to use the progs one already installed on the hdd.
Yes there is a risk that cloud will dominate. There is a trend but do we really know for how long it will last? Maybe the hard ware makers decide without asking us?
Posted: Sat 25 Jun 2011, 07:31
by r1tz
Yea, you need to pay if you want to install it.
I only tested it out on live CD, which is free.
Posted: Sat 25 Jun 2011, 14:25
by hillside
you can't beat cloud computing no matter how you look at it! If you don't believe this will be your future, you must live under a rock somewhere.
That may be very true for most people, since most people live in cities with good internet access, but there are still people living out in the boondocks with dial up or worse. For those folks, the cloud is more like the fog.
I almost forgot. I've been running Xubuntu from the hard drive and Puppy from cd. Xubuntu dual boots with a copy of XP, but I haven't actually booted XP except to see that it works.
turbolister on linux
Posted: Sat 25 Jun 2011, 15:19
by pacer106
hey bugman i was checkin out tubolister ive never used it myself but remember coming across something on it on a ubuntu forum.
http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-336264.html
there is the link to someone who got it working with wine & internet explorer 6 (ie 6 did not work though)
might give it a look
Posted: Sun 26 Jun 2011, 06:21
by bignono1
[quote="nooby"]Yes I did try Porteus 1.0 but in Beta but have downloaded latest too but bin totally absorbed doing other things in Puppy. SFStray is something I wanted to learn
hi nooby , i used your method to install porteus , herehttp://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php ... dac69753c9
Posted: Sun 26 Jun 2011, 06:25
by bignono1
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... dac69753c9
OK i give up , i never could put an url on the forum.
Posted: Sun 26 Jun 2011, 06:46
by James C
Posted: Sun 26 Jun 2011, 07:43
by nooby
bignono1 wrote:
nooby wrote:Yes I did try Porteus 1.0 but in Beta but have downloaded latest too but bin totally absorbed doing other things in Puppy. SFStray is something I wanted to learn
hi nooby , i used your method to install porteus , here
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... dac69753c9
Thanks BigNono1
Did you see this one?
title Porteus OS Log in as root Passw is toor then do startx
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
kernel /porteusboot/vmlinuz rw changes=/porteus/slaxsave.dat
initrd /porteusboot/initrd.lz
I renamed boot to porteusboot that way I can have other boots from other OS also booting up that way.
this part changes=/porteus/slaxsave.dat allow one to have a porteus slax save file but one need to prepare it as them describe somewhere in a text file. It is the same as for all Slax variations so if one have other slax booting them compete using the same save. Not good
Thanks James C , yes doing url is sometimes challenging due to them can have spaces in the end or them are long and the software split off the first [ url ] so there is a line break and if one edit that linebreak then it usually get alright
Posted: Sun 26 Jun 2011, 08:35
by aarf
Posted: Sun 26 Jun 2011, 21:09
by Aitch
sszindian wrote:After almost 30-years at the keyboard, you can't beat cloud computing no matter how you look at it! If you don't believe this will be your future, you must live under a rock somewhere.
Well, if this is what under a rock is like.....there's a lot of sky
Cloud is for people who want corporate dominance, copyright protection and control, and finance crashes engineered to bankrupt you, whilst they profit from it
see my post here
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 207#538207
Good Luck!
Aitch
Posted: Thu 30 Jun 2011, 11:59
by aarf
am i missig something?
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is puppy missing something?
Other Distros
Posted: Mon 04 Jul 2011, 11:50
by Billtoo
I just installed this to the hard drive.
Ati card setup automatically, newest VLC,Firefox 5.0.
Looks good.
O Dear that cloud again :(
Posted: Fri 22 Jul 2011, 23:05
by sszindian
Aitch Wrote:
Cloud is for people who want corporate dominance, copyright protection and control, and finance crashes engineered to bankrupt you, whilst they profit from it
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi Aitch! Nice to finally meet you here in-
http://www.murga-linux.com
However, I noticed a small 'glitch' in one of your posts (and I must say, you have a lot ot posts!) but not to fret... it's probably only something on your
http://www.murga-linux.com SOFTWARE (installed on your computer.)
As for the 'glitch' it appears you don't realize you are using 'Cloud Computing' at its very finest everytime you use John Murga's Puppy Forum !!!
>>>---Indian------>
Kanotix Linux (KDE)
Posted: Fri 22 Jul 2011, 23:56
by nitehawk
I just recently tried out the newest "Kanotix" (Debian-based from Germany). I was really surprized to see that my old legacy nvidia card was installed automatically with the first boot ! And it came with Wine, even. I had it on a 7 yr old Dell desktop....so the KDE was a bit much. I took my Debian DVDs and was able to add the LXde desktop on it,....but I was surprised to discover that Kanotix wouldn't install very much of anything else from the DVDs, They added correctly in Synaptic,.....but a lot of the apps just wouldn't install.
....Kanotix is pretty interesting, though. Not as usable for me like a Puppy is, though.
Also,...I've been using Wary,..but never could find a legacy nvidia driver for it. I just switched to Macpup,...and adding the 96.43.19 nvidia driver was a snap (couldn't have been easier!!).
other distros
Posted: Sat 23 Jul 2011, 01:02
by dagodemon42
I am currently posting from PCLOS "Phoenix Edition". It uses XFCE 4.8. It detects my TP-LINK wireless usb adapter out of the box. I haven't been able to get this wireless to work in puppy.
Posted: Sat 23 Jul 2011, 08:15
by tikbalang
Posted: Sat 23 Jul 2011, 19:45
by nooby
Austrumi, I have heard about it and them mention it on DW too in the comments.
Can I do a frugal install of it on a NTFS dualbooted computer?
What menu.lst code should I use? Can it be root?
Does it use a keyboard like åäö so I can write in Swedish?
Posted: Sun 24 Jul 2011, 05:38
by tikbalang
frugal install - yes, by replacing "dolivecd" with "dousb" in the boot parameters.
frugal on NTFS - i'm not sure, i only tested on FAT32
lang/keyb - limited, see message.msg "lang_XX = where XX - locale (el, en, es, fr, hu, it, lv, ltg, pt_br, ru, uk)
the forum is surprisingly dead for this promising distro. you have to FTP into the server to get the latest version.
Posted: Tue 26 Jul 2011, 04:54
by d4p
Not possible to frugal install on NTFS.
Until Austrumi v2.34 work fine.
v2.40 is not working.
Unofficial Austrumi Linux for English users forum
http://www.punbb-hosting.com/forums/austrumi/index.php
Posted: Tue 16 Aug 2011, 16:04
by sickgut
puppy lacks alot of commandline stuff and doesnt have framebuffer console outside of X this is why i started using debian, but the debian full distro with xfce or kde or gnome and all the apps is so rediculously broken its not funny so for a whi9le the debian standard iso was my favourite, just apt get everything you need and your ok
then i tried to bring apt-get package management to puppy 5, but its a fail because puppy has such a custom kernel and this makes puppy ultimately not 100% compatible with debian or ubuntu and dpup/ lupu is no exception.
if you want good packagemanagement and not have to rely on a puppy dev to compile your favourite app then you have to run a standard kernel
ive tried this with pussy linux
www.thepussycatforest.info
ive started with a standard debian base then stripped it to puppylike size then installed the same jwm rox xorg seamonkey desktop stuff and it uses same kinda ram and is same speed and has 100% debian apt get compatibility. i havent gotten pussy upto the puppy standard yet but it works as a proof of concept that a puppylike distro can have good package management and also the framebuffer console and other techy things without sacrificing speed or ram use
but seriously if puppy ran a normal linux kernel without lotsa things removed it wouldnt be any slower and would be more compatible. take puppeee and fluppy for example, fluppy contains all the possible drivers you can have while puppee contains just eeepc stuff in the kernel, but run them side by side and there is no apreciable difference in speed or ram use.
i believe that removing stuff from the normal linux kernel to make a puppy one so its smaller is a bad idea and the gained speed and compatibility trade off isnt worth it. run a debian or some other major distros kernel and no one has to spend 24 hours a day making packages that already exist and you can just install anything you want with a few clicks, this lets devs spend time working on the os rather than compiling packages.