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#2641 Post by Billtoo »

I installed Ubuntu 17:10 to the hard drive of my Lenovo ThinkCentre:

bill@bill-ThinkCentre-M58e:~$ inxi -bw
System: Host: bill-ThinkCentre-M58e Kernel: 4.13.0-16-generic x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Gnome 3.26.1
Distro: Ubuntu 17.10
Machine: Device: desktop System: LENOVO product: 7491B8U v: ThinkCentre M58e serial: N/A
Mobo: LENOVO model: N/A serial: N/A BIOS: LENOVO v: 5HKT39AUS date: 06/17/2009
CPU: Dual core Intel Core2 Duo E8400 (-MCP-) speed/max: 2992/3003 MHz
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA GF108 [GeForce GT 430]
Display Server: x11 (X.Org 1.19.5 ) drivers: nvidia (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa,nouveau)
Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz, 1920x1080@60.00hz
OpenGL: renderer: GeForce GT 430/PCIe/SSE2 version: 4.5.0 NVIDIA 384.90
Network: Card-1: Marvell 88E8057 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: sky2
Card-2: D-Link System AirPlus G DWL-G122 Wireless Adapter(rev.C1) [Ralink RT2571W] driver: rt73usb
Drives: HDD Total Size: 320.1GB (2.3% used)
Weather: Conditions: 63 F (17 C) - Mostly Cloudy Time: October 19, 11:13 AM EDT
Info: Processes: 211 Uptime: 53 min Memory: 1703.2/3948.1MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.37
bill@bill-ThinkCentre-M58e:~$

I installed Kodi,Smplayer/Smtube,and a few others.

It's working nice so far.
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#2642 Post by Billtoo »

I installed Xubuntu 17.10 to the hard drive of my lenovo.

bill@bill-ThinkCentre-M58e:~$ inxi -bw
System: Host: bill-ThinkCentre-M58e Kernel: 4.13.0-16-generic x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3
Distro: Ubuntu 17.10
Machine: Device: desktop System: LENOVO product: 7491B8U v: ThinkCentre M58e serial: N/A
Mobo: LENOVO model: N/A serial: N/A BIOS: LENOVO v: 5HKT39AUS date: 06/17/2009
CPU: Dual core Intel Core2 Duo E8400 (-MCP-) speed/max: 2992/3003 MHz
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA GF108 [GeForce GT 430]
Display Server: x11 (X.Org 1.19.5 ) driver: nvidia Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz, 1920x1080@60.00hz
OpenGL: renderer: GeForce GT 430/PCIe/SSE2 version: 4.5.0 NVIDIA 384.90
Network: Card-1: Marvell 88E8057 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: sky2
Card-2: D-Link System AirPlus G DWL-G122 Wireless Adapter(rev.C1) [Ralink RT2571W] driver: rt73usb
Drives: HDD Total Size: 320.1GB (2.5% used)
Weather: Conditions: 48 F (9 C) - Clear Time: October 20, 6:22 AM EDT
Info: Processes: 156 Uptime: 16 min Memory: 471.9/3948.1MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.37
bill@bill-ThinkCentre-M58e:~$

It's working well, faster than the gnome desktop.
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Edit: I installed lubuntu 17.10 to the hard drive of my HP desktop:

bill@bill-260-p029:~$ inxi -bw
System: Host: bill-260-p029 Kernel: 4.13.0-16-generic x86_64 bits: 64
Desktop: LXDE (Openbox 3.6.1) Distro: Ubuntu 17.10
Machine: Device: desktop System: HP product: 260-p029 serial: N/A
Mobo: HP model: 81B4 v: 01 serial: N/A UEFI [Legacy]: AMI v: F.04 date: 05/10/2016
CPU: Dual core Intel Core i3-6100T (-HT-MCP-) speed: 3200 MHz (max)
Graphics: Card: Intel HD Graphics 530
Display Server: x11 (X.Org 1.19.5 ) drivers: modesetting (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 530 (Skylake GT2) version: 4.5 Mesa 17.2.2
Network: Card-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCIE Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169
Card-2: Realtek RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter driver: rtl8723be
Drives: HDD Total Size: 1000.2GB (1.9% used)
Weather: Conditions: 50 F (10 C) - Clear Time: October 21, 5:40 AM EDT
Info: Processes: 170 Uptime: 1:14 Memory: 893.6/3810.4MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.37
bill@bill-260-p029:~$

Installing Kodi in all versions of 17.10 that I've installed will cause an error to appear on the screen every
now and then.
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#2643 Post by rufwoof »

Installed Debian Stretch using netinst, installed the base system and LXDE desktop environment, and tweaked that desktop.

Set startup to have 3 gkrellm's one for each of disk, cpu and net, positioned and sized those to blend in with the (reduced width) panel/tray .. so their activity is still visible when a program is full-screen (panel still visible).

Set two xterms to load below other windows, one showing the top part of htop (with xterm you can Ctrl left mouse click to switch to full screen), the other runs mc. Sloppy focus so mouse over a window brings it into focus, so can mouse over the mc window and type, press enter and the command entered will be run.

I've set the clock to be the MENU button.

Left some icons on the desktop for drag/drop purposes (drag a .jpg file from the filemanager onto mtpaint desktop icon to open the image).

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So that xterm displays more cleanly I turned openbox decorations off by editing ~/.config/openbox/lxde-rcml

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    <application name="xterm" class="XTerm">
      <decor>no</decor>
      <shade>no</shade>
      <focus>no</focus>
      <desktop>all</desktop>
      <layer>below</layer>
      <iconic>no</iconic>
      <skip_pager>yes</skip_pager>
      <skip_taskbar>yes</skip_taskbar>
      <fullscreen>no</fullscreen>
      <maximized>no</maximized>
    </application>
  </applications>
and in ~/.Xresources added xterm configuration of

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xterm.termName: xterm-256color
xterm*scrollBar: false
xterm*rightScrollBar: true
xterm*loginshell: true
xterm*cursorBlink: true
xterm*background:  black
xterm*foreground: white
xterm.borderLess: true
xterm.cursorBlink: true
xterm*colorUL: red
xterm*colorBD: red
xterm*colorULMode: false
xterm*colorBDMode: false

!fix alt key input
xterm*eightBitInput: false
xterm*altSendsEscape: true

!print color and bold/underline attributes
xterm*printAttributes: 2
xterm*printerCommand: cat > ~/xtermdump
!mouse selecting to copy, ctrl-v to paste
!Ctrl p to print screen content to file
XTerm*VT100.Translations: #override \
Ctrl <KeyPress> Y: insert-selection(CLIPBOARD,PRIMARY,CUT_BUFFER0) \n\
<BtnUp>: select-end(CLIPBOARD,PRIMARY,CUT_BUFFER0) \n\
Ctrl <KeyPress> P: print() \n

!font and locale

! Default and menu font
xterm*locale: true
xterm.utf8:     true
xterm*utf8Title: true
xterm*fontMenu*fontdefault*Label: Default
!xterm*faceName: Monaco:antialias=True:pixelsize=15
xterm*faceName: DejaVu Sans:pixelsize=16:antialias=True
!xterm*faceName: monofur:antialias=True:pixelsize=20
!xterm*boldFont: DejaVu Sans Mono:style=Bold:pixelsize=15
xterm*faceNameDoublesize: wenquanyi microhei:pixelsize=16:antialias=True
xterm*xftAntialias: true
xterm*cjkWidth:false
xterm*inputMethod:fcitx

!-- Tango color scheme
*xterm*color0: #2e3436
*xterm*color1: #cc0000
*xterm*color2: #4e9a06
*xterm*color3: #c4a000
*xterm*color4: #3465a4
*xterm*color5: #75507b
*xterm*color6: #0b939b
*xterm*color7: #d3d7cf
*xterm*color8: #555753
*xterm*color9: #ef2929
*xterm*color10: #8ae234
*xterm*color11: #fce94f
*xterm*color12: #729fcf
*xterm*color13: #ad7fa8
*xterm*color14: #00f5e9
*xterm*color15: #eeeeec
and for my setup/screen-resolution I start those xterms using

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#!/bin/sh
xterm -geometry 60x7+0+33 -fa DejaVu:size=12 -e htop &

xterm -geometry 85x23+0+204 -fa DejaVu:size=12 -e mc &
So much easier and safer to keep updated in a stable manner (apt-get update, apt-get upgrade).
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#2644 Post by rufwoof »

Just discovered that when a xterm window is in focus rather than Control, press/hold left-mouse and move the mouse over the Full Screen menu option and release the mouse ... to toggle xterm to full screen .... Alt/Enter keyboard combination does the same more quickly/easily :) (alt/enter again to toggle the xterm window back again)

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#2645 Post by Billtoo »

After doing several installs of Artful Ardvark 17.10 I find that lubuntu 17.10 works best for me.
Just don't install Kodi because it will screw things up,hope they fix that soon.

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Edit: I installed Xubuntu 17.04 to a usb hard drive on my hp mini
stream last spring.
Today I installed all available updates and rebooted, then opened the
terminal and did "sudo do-release-upgrade", 20 minutes later it had
upgraded to Xubuntu 17.10

bill@bill-200-009:~$ inxi -bw
System: Host: bill-200-009 Kernel: 4.13.0-16-generic x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3
Distro: Ubuntu 17.10
Machine: Device: desktop System: Hewlett-Packard product: 200-009 serial: N/A
Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 2B38 v: 1.02 serial: N/A UEFI [Legacy]: AMI v: 80.03 date: 12/15/2014
CPU: Dual core Intel Celeron 2957U (-MCP-) speed/max: 1396/1400 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller
Display Server: x11 (X.Org 1.19.5 ) drivers: modesetting (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Haswell Mobile version: 4.5 Mesa 17.2.2
Network: Card-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169
Card-2: Broadcom Limited BCM43142 802.11b/g/n driver: wl
Drives: HDD Total Size: 1032.2GB (1.9% used)
Weather: Conditions: 57 F (14 C) - Partly Cloudy Time: October 25, 12:27 AM EDT
Info: Processes: 177 Uptime: 3 min Memory: 434.9/1848.6MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.37
bill@bill-200-009:~$

I'm amazed at how well it worked.
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#2646 Post by rufwoof »

Debian Jessie LXDE with wallpaper http://www.guoguiyan.com/data/out/104/6 ... papers.jpg and gkrellm theme http://magellan-linux.de/magellan/magel ... llm.tar.gz

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undecorated xterm size/position to fit with wallpaper ... running htop

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#2647 Post by Billtoo »

Still trying out different Ubuntu 17.10 versions, now dual booting
17.10 Xubuntu and 17.10 Mate on my hp mini stream.
Mate lets you pin items to the task bar like Windows 10 does.
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#2648 Post by Colonel Panic »

Just been trying OpenSUSE 42.3, and mostly it's fine but I had a couple of important documents to edit in Textmaker and OpenSUSE wouldn't let me save them (probably something to do with file permissions). I tried saving into one or two different directories but eventually gave up.

Right now, time is too short to troubleshoot this so I'm back in good old Slackware (Softmaker Office will run in 32-bit Slack) and running as root.

I installed FerenOS, a biggish distro based on Mint (it's a 3.4 GB download), a few days ago. It works well but has a slightly odd choice of software; for example, the standard browser is Vivaldi, although you can of course easily install Firefox if you prefer it.
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#2649 Post by Moat »

Happy birthday to me... :) A good buddy of mine works for a "large" software company (whom shall remain nameless...), and put in a request (having me in mind...) to snag a laptop from the company's literal pile of "obsolete" equipment - and won it... a pristine Dell Latitude E6520 with Intel Core i5-2540M proc and 8 Gb of RAM. 8)

After trying a couple of Linux distro hard drive installs (MX-16, Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Fedora, others I can't recall ATM), I - once again (yeah - broken record, here) - I installed Mint 18.2 Xfce 64 bit, and as usual & in line with my former (~5 yr.) experiences with Mint releases - it's simply the nearest thing to flawless that I've found. Everything just works as it should, all of my favorite apps easily located and installed from Mint's software manager, the Xfce desktop responds perfectly to my preferred eye candy tweaks and personal Greenbird theme, system updates are super easy and quick, etc.

This is the first computer I've ever owned with other than Intel native/onboard graphics available (Nvidea GF119M), and Mint's included driver utility set that up perfectly - I can now switch between Intel and Nvidea graphics via a simple taskbar button (just requires logging out/back in). FPS from about 59 to over 7000 on the Nvidea card.

Fast, flexible, well-supported, beautiful-yet-light and rock-solid... this stupid Linux end-user is in "obsolete" laptop heaven! :) Mint is still cream of the crop for folks like me, IMHO - really great, trouble-free & as polished and complete as any existing Linux OS I've found. Good fun! And a real workhorse...

Bob

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bob@bob-Latitude-E6520 ~ $ inxi -F
System:    Host: bob-Latitude-E6520 Kernel: 4.8.0-53-generic x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3
           Distro: Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya
Machine:   System: Dell (portable) product: Latitude E6520 v: 01
           Mobo: Dell model: 0J4TFW v: A01 Bios: Dell v: A05 date: 05/24/2011
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core i5-2540M (-HT-MCP-) cache: 3072 KB 
           clock speeds: max: 3300 MHz 1: 899 MHz 2: 803 MHz 3: 845 MHz 4: 804 MHz
Graphics:  Card-1: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller
           Card-2: NVIDIA GF119M [NVS 4200M]
           Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Sandybridge Mobile GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 17.0.7
Audio:     Card-1 NVIDIA GF119 HDMI Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel Sound: ALSA v: k4.8.0-53-generic
           Card-2 Intel 6 Series/C200 Series Family High Definition Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel
Network:   Card-1: Intel 82579LM Gigabit Network Connection driver: e1000e
           IF: eno1 state: down mac: 5c:26:0a:70:8b:e8
           Card-2: Broadcom BCM4313 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter driver: bcma-pci-bridge
           IF: wlp3s0b1 state: up mac: d0:df:9a:a1:78:b6
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 500.1GB (3.1% used) ID-1: /dev/sda model: ST9500423AS size: 500.1GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 451G used: 7.0G (2%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 8.46GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda5
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 52.0C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 203 Uptime: 2:19 Memory: 542.7/7862.3MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.2.35
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#2650 Post by belham2 »

Moat wrote:to snag a laptop from the company's literal pile of "obsolete" equipment - and won it... a pristine Dell Latitude E6520 with Intel Core i5-2540M proc and 8 Gb of RAM. 8)

Jeez, your so-called 'obsolete' equipment is way newer & beefier than anything we have in this house. How is a 'core-i5' with '8gb' ram considered obsolete? Makes me wonder what else companies just up&consider obsolete & bin it :?

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#2651 Post by rufwoof »

belham2 wrote:Jeez, your so-called 'obsolete' equipment is way newer & beefier than anything we have in this house. How is a 'core-i5' with '8gb' ram considered obsolete? Makes me wonder what else companies just up&consider obsolete & bin it :?
Acer Aspire Phenom Quad 4 2GB with onboard Radeon ATI here :( Around 10 years old IIRC.

OpenBSD 6.2 with 9 additionals (pkg_info -mz shows 10, but quirks is a system package that's used for security purposes) i.e. base OpenBSD and using its internal fvwm window manager ... along with firefox (browser), libreoffice (write/spreadsheet/draw ...etc), mpv (videos/audio), mtpaint (image editing), osmo (calendar, diary, tasks, notes), radiotray (radio stations) and Xfe (file manager that also comes with image viewer and text editor). Stalonetray (tray) and numlockx are odd-ball system extension programs.

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fvwm buttons extended to swallow the desktop pager and stalonetray (tray).

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#2652 Post by Moat »

belham2 wrote:Jeez, your so-called 'obsolete' equipment is way newer & beefier than anything we have in this house. How is a 'core-i5' with '8gb' ram considered obsolete?
Crazy, isn't it? All I know is... I ain't complaining! :) This particular company is a world leader in CAD/CAM/design/engineering software, and I presume they want/need their devs to be doing their work on up-to-date hardware platforms comparable to the systems their customers will be using - so updating employee's computers as such just becomes part of the normal cost of doing $$$ business.

It's certainly a smokin' beast to me, though - I suppose it's time to start off-loading some of my older lappies...

Bob

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#2653 Post by rufwoof »

OpenBSD comes with X as part of its core system, proper xterm and three window managers, cwm, fvwm and twm

cwm is nice for laptops and desktops where the keyboard is readily to hand. fvwm is like a more comprehensive (configurable) version of twm, but that entices you into spending too much time tweaking your desktop. twm is Unix philosophy ... does one thing (window management) well, and is great for where a physical mouse is more used than the keyboard (such as in my case i.e. browsing etc.).

twm works well enough with the defaults, but spend a few minutes adding your favourite programs to the menu and its perfect.

OpenBSD is a simple install and unlike freeBSD comes pre-configured. I have all of the system files unchanged (eradicates the need for backups as the system files are easily obtained). With less than 10 additional programs easily installed using pkg_add, you quickly have a decent desktop system ready to use

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Leaving just home (configuration and personal files) needing to be backed up, which tar (or whatever) runs through in seconds.

And security updates are a breeze, just run 'syspatch'.

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#2654 Post by rufwoof »

Been playing around with yad. You can add a icon to stalonetray using yad where that icon has a drop down menu. I tend to have osmo and libre quickstarter tray icons and they both have right click drop down menus as well, so a third icon makes it more well rounded for the range of applications that might be launched via 3 tray icons.

A neat feature with twm (running under openbsd 6.2) is its ease of widow layering. I have it set so a middle mouse click of the titlebar of a maxmised window lets the clock and stalonetray root level show through, making it quick and easy to get to the osmo, libre or personal icons and their respective drop down menus. Click the maximised windows title again and that window restores to being back at the top level.

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    #!/bin/sh
    # For OpenBSD 6.2.
    #Requires yad and stalonetray (pkg_add yad stalonetray)
    yad --notification --text="" \
    --image=applications-office \
    --separator="\\n" \
    --menu="xfe!xfe
    Firefox!firefox-esr
    xterm!xterm -T "XTERM"
    xcalc!xcalc
    xfw!xfw
    mtpaint!mtpaint
    QUIT!/tmp/killtrayapps" \
    --command='xmessage "    Use right mouse click to activate menu    "' &
    PID=$!
    echo "#!/bin/sh" >/tmp/killtrayapps
    echo "kill -s HUP $PID" >>/tmp/killtrayapps
    echo "rm /tmp/killtrayapps" >>/tmp/killtrayapps
    chmod +x /tmp/killtrayapps
I've positioned my stalonetray to be central, just below where maximised windows title bars as can be seen in the clickable thumbnail image above.

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#2655 Post by Colonel Panic »

Another vote for twm.

I've installed twm in SUSE now and it's working well. It's a bit of a pity that work on twm ended so long ago, in particular its appearance as it can't help looking like 1990s software (imagine it with 3-D toolbars, for example).

I've also installed ctwm in Debian Stretch, with Dan Lilliehorn's configuration file, which I've made small changes to to accommodate some newer programs and make the fonts bigger. Ctwm works very well with DMenu, as does Twm.
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#2656 Post by Colonel Panic »

I'm posting from the latest beta of Mint (18.3, Cinnamon) and although I haven't installed it yet you wouldn't know it wasn't a full release from what I've seen so far. Everything is working just as it should be.
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#2657 Post by Colonel Panic »

There's a new release of Pardus out now, based on Debian but using XFce as its window manager and, as before, developed with the support of the Turkish government for use in some of its agencies.

I've been trying it this weekend and so far it looks pretty competent; the only problems I've had with it have been a brief inability to save a draft of a message in Thunderbird, and Softmaker Office's not working until I installed 32-bit libraries in the distro (which is 64-bit).
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#2658 Post by rufwoof »

Colonel Panic wrote:Another vote for twm.

I've installed twm in SUSE now and it's working well.
For me under OpenBSD if I set a maximise/restore windows title button to run f.fullzoom then it maximises with a single click, but requires two clicks to restore back down again (first click the mouse cursor changes to a mouse).

A workaround that works for me was to define a function

Function "fullscreen" { f.fullzoom f.winrefresh }

and use that instead, such as

LeftTitleButton "maximize.xbm" = f.function "fullscreen"

I've also switched over to using tab like windows titles instead of full window width titles i.e. have SqueezeTitle defined in .twmrc. What's really nice with that is even when a window is maximised there's some desktop space showing to the right of the window title tab that can be left mouse pressed in order to (obviously) present the normal menu that is shown when the desktop is left mouse pressed, when otherwise no desktop space would have been showing.

I also have it configured such that right mouse click on the desktop or a window tab/title raises the icon manager (like a tasklist) and my mouse scrollwheel volume control (that by default I have dropped in the bottom left corner, but that can be alt-mouseclickdragged around if desired), so you can switch between maximised windows or adjust the volume quickly/easily.

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#2659 Post by Billtoo »

I installed linux mint 18.3 to the hard drive of my Acer desktop pc,

bill@bill-Aspire-M5620 ~ $ inxi -bw
System: Host: bill-Aspire-M5620 Kernel: 4.10.0-40-generic x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: Cinnamon 3.6.6
Distro: Linux Mint 18.3 Sylvia
Machine: System: ACER product: Aspire M5620 v: R01-A4
Mobo: ACER model: G33T-AM v: 1.0 Bios: American Megatrends v: R01-A4 date: 12/19/2007
CPU: Quad core Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 (-MCP-) speed/max: 1603/2403 MHz
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA GF108 [GeForce GT 430]
Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 driver: nvidia Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz, 1920x1080@60.00hz
GLX Renderer: GeForce GT 430/PCIe/SSE2 GLX Version: 4.5.0 NVIDIA 384.90
Network: Card: Intel 82566DC-2 Gigabit Network Connection driver: e1000e
Drives: HDD Total Size: 500.1GB (3.3% used)
Weather: Conditions: 48 F (9 C) - Overcast Time: December 4, 8:37 PM EST
Info: Processes: 224 Uptime: 2 min Memory: 648.8/7981.3MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.2.35
bill@bill-Aspire-M5620 ~ $

It's working well so far.
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#2660 Post by Colonel Panic »

rufwoof wrote:
Colonel Panic wrote:Another vote for twm.

I've installed twm in SUSE now and it's working well.
For me under OpenBSD if I set a maximise/restore windows title button to run f.fullzoom then it maximises with a single click, but requires two clicks to restore back down again (first click the mouse cursor changes to a mouse).

A workaround that works for me was to define a function

Function "fullscreen" { f.fullzoom f.winrefresh }

and use that instead, such as

LeftTitleButton "maximize.xbm" = f.function "fullscreen"

I've also switched over to using tab like windows titles instead of full window width titles i.e. have SqueezeTitle defined in .twmrc. What's really nice with that is even when a window is maximised there's some desktop space showing to the right of the window title tab that can be left mouse pressed in order to (obviously) present the normal menu that is shown when the desktop is left mouse pressed, when otherwise no desktop space would have been showing.

I also have it configured such that right mouse click on the desktop or a window tab/title raises the icon manager (like a tasklist) and my mouse scrollwheel volume control (that by default I have dropped in the bottom left corner, but that can be alt-mouseclickdragged around if desired), so you can switch between maximised windows or adjust the volume quickly/easily.

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I agree, SqueezeTitle's good. I've got IconManager on my middle button although on mine it brings up a menu for it rather than the icon manager directly (I also have options to sort and hide it, as well as left and right).

Here's the configuration file. The basic file here was copied from someone else's a while back although I've made a few changes (I like dmenu, for example, so there's a menu entry for that).

The whole look is a bit 1990s though, especially compared to yours (you've got brighter colours than I have). I was mainly concerned with having something that works, with a good range of functions. I might change the look if I get time.

#
# Default twm configuration file; needs to be kept small to conserve string
# space in systems whose compilers don't handle medium-sized strings.
#
# Sites should tailor this file, providing any extra title buttons, menus, etc.
# that may be appropriate for their environment. For example, if most of the
# users were accustomed to uwm, the defaults could be set up not to decorate
# any windows and to use meta-keys.
#

NoGrabServer
RestartPreviousState
DecorateTransients
TitleFont "-adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal--*-120-*-*-*-*-*-*"
ResizeFont "-adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal--*-120-*-*-*-*-*-*"
MenuFont "-adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal--*-120-*-*-*-*-*-*"
IconFont "-adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal--*-100-*-*-*-*-*-*"
IconManagerFont "-adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal--*-120-*-*-*-*-*-*"
#ClientBorderWidth

# Add buttons to a window's titlebars
#
# First, remove the defaults from the window titlebars.
# And get rid of the annoying titlebar hightlighting effect.
#
NoDefaults
NoTitleHighlight
TitleButtonBorderWidth 2
#
# I like SqueezeTitle. The titlebar only occupies as much space as needed.
# Reminds me of BeOS.
# If you want to have standard titlebars, remove or comment out this line.
#
SqueezeTitle
#
#IconifyByUnmapping iconises windows to the icon manager without drawing
#their icons on the desktop, which makes for a tidier if more spartan interface.
#
IconifyByUnmapping
#
# Now add our buttons.
#
LeftTitleButton "/etc/X11/twm/icons/resize1.xbm" = f.resize
#
# Note that declarations are from left to right in the order they'll
# be displayed on the right upper corner.
#
RightTitleButton "/usr/share/X11//twm/icons/minimize.xbm" = f.iconify
RightTitleButton "/usr/share/X11//twm/icons/maximize.xbm" = f.fullzoom
RightTitleButton "/usr/share/X11/twm/icons/close.xbm" = f.delete

Color
{
BorderColor "slategrey"
DefaultBackground "midnight blue"
DefaultForeground "antique white"
TitleBackground "midnight blue"
TitleForeground "antique white"
MenuBackground "midnight blue"
MenuForeground "antique white"
MenuBorderColor "slategrey"
MenuTitleBackground "lime green"
MenuTitleForeground "midnight blue"
IconBackground "midnight blue"
IconForeground "antique white"
IconBorderColor "antique white"
IconManagerBackground "midnight blue"
IconManagerForeground "antique white"
}

#
# Define some useful functions for motion-based actions.
#
MoveDelta 3
Function "move-or-lower" { f.move f.deltastop f.lower }
Function "move-or-raise" { f.move f.deltastop f.raise }
Function "move-or-iconify" { f.move f.deltastop f.iconify }

#
# Set some useful bindings. Sort of uwm-ish, sort of simple-button-ish
#
Button1 = : root : f.menu "defops1"
Button2 = : root : f.menu "defops2"
Button3 = : root : f.menu "defops3"

Button1 = m : window|icon : f.function "move-or-lower"
Button2 = m : window|icon : f.iconify
Button3 = m : window|icon : f.function "move-or-raise"

Button1 = : title : f.function "move-or-raise"
Button2 = : title : f.raiselower

Button1 = : icon : f.function "move-or-iconify"
Button2 = : icon : f.iconify

Button1 = : iconmgr : f.iconify
Button2 = : iconmgr : f.iconify

IconDirectory "/etc/X11/twm/icons"
#
# And a menus with the usual things
#

menu "defops1"
{
"Twm" f.title
"Xterm" f.exec "exec xterm &"
"Dmenu" f.exec "exec dmenu_run &"
"Gkrellm" f.exec "exec gkrellm &"
"" f.nop
"Kill" f.destroy
"Delete" f.delete
"Restart" f.restart
"Switch" f.startwm "blackbox"
"Exit" f.quit
"" f.nop
}

menu "defops2"
{
"Twm" f.title
"Show Icon Manager" f.showiconmgr
"Sort Icon Manager" f.sorticonmgr
"Hide Icon Manager" f.hideiconmgr
"Back Icon Manager" f.backiconmgr
"Forward Icon Manager" f.forwiconmgr
"" f.nop
}

menu "defops3"
{
"Twm" f.title
"Iconify" f.iconify
"Deiconify" f.deiconify
"Resize" f.resize
"" f.nop
"Zoom horizontally" f.horizoom
"Zoom vertically" f.zoom
"Zoom top half" f.topzoom
"Zoom bottom half" f.bottomzoom
"Zoom left half" f.leftzoom
"Zoom right half" f.rightzoom
"Zoom in both directions" f.fullzoom
"" f.nop
"Move" f.move
"Force Move" f.forcemove
"Raise" f.raise
"Lower" f.lower
"Circle Up" f.circleup
"Circle Down" f.circledown
"" f.nop
"Focus" f.focus
"Unfocus" f.unfocus
"" f.nop
"Refresh all" f.refresh
"Refresh window"f.winrefresh"
"" f.nop
}
Gigabyte M68MT-52P motherboard, AMD Athlon II X4 630, 5.8 GB of DDR3 RAM and a 250 GB Hitachi hard drive running Ubuntu 16.04.6, MX-19.2, Peppermint 10, PCLinuxOS 20.02, LXLE 18.04.3, Pardus 19.2, exGENT 200119, Bionic Pup 8.0 and Xenial CE 7.5 XL.

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