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#256 Post by stu90 »

DaveS wrote:
Bert wrote: Can I please ask what are the specs of the machine you've been testing Xubuntu on?
Any idea about ram usage?

Thanks!
Bert

PS Nice to see your name again, after the forum intermezzo ;)
Hi Bert. Acer laptop, Pentium Dual-core T2330 1.6Gh CPU, 1 gig of ram. Not enough for Ubuntu/Unity but a pleasant surprise with Ubuntu/Xfce. Dont know about ram usage, probably not very much as it does not load programs into ram on boot like Puppy, and things therefore load more slowly the first time I open them, but it never feels ram challenged.
I failed to mention similar problems with the Broadcom wifi as with 3. series kernels Puppies. Not the easiest to fix either, but once I got it going it has been bullet-proof. Still Puppy (Racy or Slacko) is my main distro though. The new Mint sounds interesting but I think it will need a lot of ram.
There must be some fix for broadcom wifi issues in 3x kernels - Bodhi has 3.0.0-12-generic and the b43 wireless in my laptop is picked up and works first time with out problems.

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#257 Post by DaveS »

Here is what I had to do... might provide some insight.


open the ‘Synaptic Package Manager‘ and search for ‘bcm’
uninstall the ‘bcm-kernel-source‘ package
make sure that the ‘firmware-b43-installer‘ and the ‘b43-fwcutter‘ packages are installed

type into terminal:
cat /etc/modprobe.d/* | egrep '8180|acx|at76|ath|b43|bcm|CX|eth|ipw|irmware|isl|lbtf|orinoco|ndiswrapper|NPE|p54|prism|rtl|rt2|rt3|rt6|rt7|witch|wl'

(you may want to copy this) and see if the term ‘blacklist bcm43xx‘ is there
if it is, then type cd /etc/modprobe.d/ and then sudo gedit blacklist.conf put a # in front of the line: blacklist bcm43xx then save the file (I was getting error messages in the terminal about not being able to save, but it actually did save properly).
reboot
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#258 Post by nooby »

Today I tested to boot Vector 7.0 Std Gold Live.

That it is live is important for it told me that as a live user
I was not allowed to change the menu.lst despite it being on
ext2 and the files on ext3.

People have told me to get rid of NTFS and to use ext2 or ext3 instead
and all my problems will be gone.

What them really mean but don't realize is that that only works if
your do a full install and does not work if you do a frugal install of a "Live"
version.

The Devs have restricted the "Live" so it does not even help to be root
when you are "Live Session User" You don't have the permissions to save edits.

Now Vector is Slackware or a variant of Slackware.

The cool thing about Slax varieties like Proteus OS or CDLinux OS is
that both of them is more slack than Slackware themselves.
Proteus OS does allow me to save things being root.
Do you remember the Linux is Not Windows slogan?
Well Linux Live is Not always behaving like a Linux Full install either.

I did only test the first of these menu.lst entries


title Vector V7
root (hd0,1)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz init=linuxrc ramdisk_size=8666 root=/dev/ram0 rw changes=/dev/sda2
initrd /boot/initrd.xz




title Vector V7
root (hd0,1)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz ramdisk_size=7000 root=/dev/ram0 rw max_loop=255 init=linuxrc load_ramdisk=1 prompt_ramdisk=0 changes=/dev/sda2
initrd /boot/initrd.xz
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#259 Post by linuxbear »

SUSE @ work
Bodhi Linux on the old lappy
Super OS on my maim machine @ home
Mac on the wife's machine

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#260 Post by James C »

Had my old AntiX P3 box running so I installed Exprimo 5.X.10.2 which is working fine.Long story short,went ahead and installed Vector 7 too..Full install on Ext 3 partition.Pretty quick on this old computer.Using good old legacy Grub too.
Cool logging in as "root" ..... everything has that red WARNING color, wallpaper included.. :lol:

Pretty good triple-boot I guess....Exprimo on sda1, AntiX on sda5 and Vector on sda7.Something to do on a dull rainy night. :)

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#261 Post by Colonel Panic »

I tried Vector 7.0 Gold, and it worked OK for a couple of weeks before the sound died on it for some reason so today I installed Salix 13.37 (LXDE version) instead. So far Salix is working well and seems quite fast and very stable.
Gigabyte M68MT-52P motherboard, AMD Athlon II X4 630, 5.8 GB of DDR3 RAM and a 250 GB Hitachi hard drive running Ubuntu 16.04.6, MX-19.2, Peppermint 10, PCLinuxOS 20.02, LXLE 18.04.3, Pardus 19.2, exGENT 200119, Bionic Pup 8.0 and Xenial CE 7.5 XL.

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#262 Post by nubc »

Anyone have an opinion about Archbang 2011.11? How user-friendly? How much extra configuration needed? Forum support? I notice there is a "i686" in the ISO name, does this mean only for recent computers?

EDIT: Sheesh, I can't even get it to boot from CD. Fergit it.

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#263 Post by harii4 »

i'm down loading Livarp-xs, the nonoobs Debian-based distro
livarp-xs-dwm
livarp-xs-echinus
livarp-xs-evilwm
livarp-xs-dwm
i'm going to try the evilwm one- all the screen shots look great :D
http://arpinux.org/x/doku.php/start:liv ... -xs-evilwm
livarp-xs is not a full-featured ditro for everybody, livarp-xs is not attach to any distro-community, the only support is me :D
i'll be happy to answer to your questions, but only if you've search by yourself first: livarp is a distro for people who prefer a single command line to 5 clics ;).
wish we had pups like that. :D
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#264 Post by nooby »

Haha The AntiNoobyOS that would be cool to have.

I am not supposed to be using this OS it is set up to be against me. :)

Hey did it work for you. What is it like? What can you do?
Is it like being at an old UNIX screen say 1990?
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#265 Post by Aitch »

harii4 wrote:wish we had pups like that. :D
techno's microsaurus? [He might want to think about the name, as it's already in use by a webdesigner!]

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 822#590822

Aitch :)

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#266 Post by harii4 »

thanks Aitch :D
techno's microsaurus? [He might want to think about the name, as it's already in use by a webdesigner!]

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 822#590822
plus pUPnGO are real small but i meant pup with minimalist window manager.
one could always add it - :wink: right
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#267 Post by Colonel Panic »

I've just installed Frugalware 1.5, one of two multi-DVD distros I received in the post today from OSDisc.com (the other being CentOS 6.2). So far it seems to be working well; it's a sort of cross between Slackware and Arch, but with the bonus that all the major desktop environments (KDE, Gnome and XFce) are included.
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#268 Post by ajlec2000 »

I use Vista on one machine just to run Photshop CS4. XP on another machine for Photoshop 7 and more importantly Painter IX. Win 98 preSE out of nostalgia as its on my first ever computer. PUppy 431 on yet another machine cause I like it and it just works. Of course numerous Puppies on various flash drives and CDs cause most of them just work.

Until recently my usual OS on my favorite computer, a Dell laptop, was Ubuntu Ten Four because of the deeply stocked repositories. However over time the amount and frequency of updates increased and a week ago it borked after an update. Naturally I used Puppy to rescue the few items not yet backed up. Rather than fix or re-install Ubuntu I thought I'd try Lucid 5.2.8.

And I'm happy for it. Beautifully done and so far everything works great!

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#269 Post by jason.b.c »

i guess this is the right area to ask ,

does anyone know , which download or whatever is the lxde version of unity linux??

http://unity-linux.org/

their site is rather confusing... :lol:
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#270 Post by James C »

Just installed Vector 7 Light Beta 1 on an even slower old P3 (733 Mhz/256 Mb ram).Pretty quick and no problems so far.Choice of JWM or ICEWM instead of XFCE4 and lighter default apps.Not Puppy but not bad either.

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#271 Post by nooby »

jason.b.c wrote:i guess this is the right area to ask ,

does anyone know , which download or whatever is the lxde version of unity linux??

http://unity-linux.org/

their site is rather confusing... :lol:
Don't ask me, I never understand Geekish.

They say
The current release for Unity Linux is 2011 Alpha 2. Unity is released in both 32 and 64bit versions.
The release is command line only but a GUI can be added with relative ease by the Smart Package Manager.
Then they have an Alpha 2 too so maybe that one add to confusion.

So either both are a CLI but you can chose LXDE using the SPM.

As easy as PanCakes. I made Waffle the other day. So just follow
their recipe here
http://unity-linux.org/unity-getting-started-guide/

I vaguely remember that I tried to boot it frugally but don't know if
I managed to to it.

Myabe you need to have grub2 to do it? or a CD burner?
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#272 Post by linuxbear »

stu90 wrote:
DaveS wrote:
Bert wrote:

Ubuntu/Unity
I'm running superOS with unity on a single core rig. Unity requires a very good video card on an older PC or it will not install. That being said, I am not altogether smitten with Unity and like Gnome III even less. KDE seems a lot more usable @ present

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#273 Post by nooby »

linuxbear I have KDE in Netrunner OS which is a Kubuntu variety.

I find it too demanding on my CPU and RAM only having 1GB
and I do "cheating" iso boot so that maybe is more demanding.
If I have more than three things going at same time then it totally stall
and I have to go to prompt and start all over.

What I like about Netrunner is that it has all the adobe flash for Firefox
installed from scratch. That suites me using a live session but still can do
anything I can on Puppy without being root nor using sudo.

Linus Torvalds like Xfce and Mr Knopper of Knoppix fame he like LXDE
if I get it.

So everybody has their own taste it seems.
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#274 Post by sickgut »

KDE or Gnome, as i see it is like using a nice linux base then slapping a whole lot of vista b__ S___ on top.....

I know here at Puppy we are overly obsessed about size, but i think using old hardware like i do mostly forces you to be more fussy.

LXDE itself is 80mb this is almost the size of Puppy. Xfce is more like 250mb
If Torvalds is using Xfce.... maybe this actually means something, maybe the guy who invented linux might actually know a good desktop environment when he uses it. I personally see no advantage in upgrading from my JWM and optional Rox-Filer but if a new computer is used then Xfce may very well be capable of doing everything you would expect a desktop environment to do while not being a complete bloat/ bling whore.

i dont understand why people need to upgrade just so they can run the latest KDE or Gnome and waste money, electricity in the form of CPU cycles etc. Does it actually increase efficiency so you get more done in less time that cost you less money?

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#275 Post by nooby »

Both Netrunner 3.2 and 4.0 make use of KDE so that makes them too big
for my 1GB and one cor Atom CPU. Slow and FF stall when I have more
that one tab?

But it could be something else. KDE told me it shut down some Bling bling
it had because them took too long time to launch

Haha that explain why it totally went to stand still. One could not even
shut down apps that was open.

So I will use KUbuntu only when I need to do grub2 install to flash drives
or something. Or some prog that only exists for Ubuntu?

Knoppix works rather well on my little Netbook because I use an external
screen for it so my old eyes can read what I write :)
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