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Pete
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#2401 Post by Pete »

Hi Billtoo

I too have been a fan of Mint but I was a bit disappointed with 18 (Sarah).
Booted off a live DVD and went to set up dual screens.
It detects them but whatever changes I make (resolution, refresh rate, relative positions) don't take.

Since you got them working, I can only assume that there is a problem when running from the live DVD and this only works with a proper install.

Gave up on it and installed Xslacko with XFCE 4.
Computer is a HP Elitebook 8440p with i5 2.4GHz CPU, 2GB RAM and 320GB HDD.
It has a dual channel DisplayPort and VGA outputs.

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#2402 Post by Billtoo »

Pete wrote: Since you got them working, I can only assume that there is a problem when running from the live DVD and this only works with a proper install.
Hi Pete, setting up the monitors worked fine on the mini.
When I added kodi and smplayer/smtube I did it from their homepage by
using the instructions for ubuntu to add a ppa, pretty sure any updates
to the applications are done with the usual update method after doing that.
Anyway, mint 18 is working fine so far for me.

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#2403 Post by Colonel Panic »

I've recently been trying out AntiX MX-15 (the 64-but version). It's a great live disk but unfortunately I haven't had much luck with the installation to my hard drive; it always seems to stall for some reason and doesn't complete.
Gigabyte M68MT-52P motherboard, AMD Athlon II X4 630, 5.8 GB of DDR3 RAM and a 250 GB Hitachi hard drive running Ubuntu 16.04.6, MX-19.2, Peppermint 10, PCLinuxOS 20.02, LXLE 18.04.3, Pardus 19.2, exGENT 200119, Bionic Pup 8.0 and Xenial CE 7.5 XL.

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#2404 Post by poorguy »

Colonel Panic wrote:I've recently been trying out AntiX MX-15 (the 64-but version). It's a great live disk but unfortunately I haven't had much luck with the installation to my hard drive; it always seems to stall for some reason and doesn't complete.
I've tried antix MX-15 and didn't really care for it after a few days of using it. It comes feature packed with software but it also for me had to many different problems so it went down the road.

I'm using antix 16 and it is super. After install and updates it works perfectly right out of the box which is what I prefer install and use.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/antix- ... /antiX-16/

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#2405 Post by Colonel Panic »

poorguy wrote:
Colonel Panic wrote:I've recently been trying out AntiX MX-15 (the 64-but version). It's a great live disk but unfortunately I haven't had much luck with the installation to my hard drive; it always seems to stall for some reason and doesn't complete.
I've tried antix MX-15 and didn't really care for it after a few days of using it. It comes feature packed with software but it also for me had to many different problems so it went down the road.

I'm using antix 16 and it is super. After install and updates it works perfectly right out of the box which is what I prefer install and use.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/antix- ... /antiX-16/

The PoorGuy
Thanks for the reply and advice. It's a shame though that MX-15 is not sorted yet when AntiX 16 works so well; I might put a message on the AntiX forum and ask if they're looking into it. It looks great for a distro which runs on modest hardware so it would be good to sort it out.

BTW, if you want a Debian-based distro which used XFce as its desktop manager, I can recommend SolydX which works very well. IMO its only drawback is that it looks a bit "vanilla" but it's easily spruced up if you want to do that.
Gigabyte M68MT-52P motherboard, AMD Athlon II X4 630, 5.8 GB of DDR3 RAM and a 250 GB Hitachi hard drive running Ubuntu 16.04.6, MX-19.2, Peppermint 10, PCLinuxOS 20.02, LXLE 18.04.3, Pardus 19.2, exGENT 200119, Bionic Pup 8.0 and Xenial CE 7.5 XL.

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#2406 Post by poorguy »

Hey Colonel Panic,

I'll have to give SolydX a look at. I can deal with a bit "vanilla" as I don't need eye candy.

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#2407 Post by James C »

For whatever it's worth, I use MX-15 every day and have been since it's beginning and have pretty much no problems. Same with AntiX. Been using AntiX almost as long as Puppy.

Just goes to show that different hardware and different users can reach entirely different results.

c'est la vie.

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#2408 Post by poorguy »

Hey James C,

Hardware does sometimes create problems but some of the problems I was having was with certain apps that came installed and wouldn't open and run. Same desktop antix 15-1 and antix 16 not one problem. Don't know.

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#2409 Post by rokytnji »

poorguy wrote:Hey Colonel Panic,

I'll have to give SolydX a look at. I can deal with a bit "vanilla" as I don't need eye candy.

The PoorGuy
I ran SolydX for awhile. Their personal repo handling and updater would give fits sometimes but it was not a deal breaker kind of thing for me.

MX just uses less ram at idle than SolydX and runs a newer XFCE <when I ran it>

You will find these things out on your own though. Hell. It might just trip your trigger for all I know. :lol:

Edit: Looks like I can still login to thier forums. Kewl.

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#2410 Post by poorguy »

Hello,

Well I decided to give antiX MX-15 Fusion another try and see what happens.

I just find it hard to understand why one distro runs great and the other gives fits but I'm willing to see what happens with it on a different destop.

And now that I think about it had a similar situation with Puppy (tahrpup) and Slacko.
Puppy (tahrpup) likes me and Slacko doesn't like me.

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#2411 Post by Colonel Panic »

In other news; I've recently installed Salix XFce 14.2 (64-bit). Apart from the usual rigmarole with Salix resulting from the fact that one of the necessary files - .dmrc - is missing, it's working well.

I'm not convinced though that for most users, and certainly most Puppy users with older computers, there's much to be gained from using the 64-bit version of a distro as opposed to the 32-bit, but 64-bit is increasingly the default now.

@Poorguy; thanks for trying MX-15 again, I'd be interested to see what happens.
Gigabyte M68MT-52P motherboard, AMD Athlon II X4 630, 5.8 GB of DDR3 RAM and a 250 GB Hitachi hard drive running Ubuntu 16.04.6, MX-19.2, Peppermint 10, PCLinuxOS 20.02, LXLE 18.04.3, Pardus 19.2, exGENT 200119, Bionic Pup 8.0 and Xenial CE 7.5 XL.

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#2412 Post by poorguy »

Hello Colonel Panic,

Well they say that 3rd time is the charm and it must be true as all so far is going very well. :)

Although I have found that most of my computers will install and run 64 bit it seems that some of mine run better with 32 bit .
I have always heard / read 64 bit is more secure but I'm not sure that is the case and uncertain why that would be. :?

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#2413 Post by poorguy »

Hello All,

Well Antix MX 15 Fusion is still working well and no real complaints.
This distro is complete with every app that an end-user would ever need.
Probably more than an end-user would use.

I personally don't find anything super great about Antix MX 15 Fusion.
On my desktop it uses the same amount of ram and cpu that my Linux Mint 17.1 Cinnamon uses.
It is a good Linux Distro and the developers did an excellent job building it. Perhaps I'm not seeing what everyone else is finding special about it.

Just another Linux Distro and definitely worth a look at.

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#2414 Post by Colonel Panic »

poorguy wrote:Hello All,

Well Antix MX 15 Fusion is still working well and no real complaints.
This distro is complete with every app that an end-user would ever need.
Probably more than an end-user would use.

I personally don't find anything super great about Antix MX 15 Fusion.
On my desktop it uses the same amount of ram and cpu that my Linux Mint 17.1 Cinnamon uses.
It is a good Linux Distro and the developers did an excellent job building it. Perhaps I'm not seeing what everyone else is finding special about it.

Just another Linux Distro and definitely worth a look at.

The PoorGuy
I've tried MX-15 again and still no luck with installing it (it stalls on formatting the partition).

I might see if there's a way to skip the formatting step and preformat the partition instead, but otherwise I'll probably have to give it up as a dead loss on my machine. Shame, because I like the look of it and it runs better on old computers than most other distros do.
Gigabyte M68MT-52P motherboard, AMD Athlon II X4 630, 5.8 GB of DDR3 RAM and a 250 GB Hitachi hard drive running Ubuntu 16.04.6, MX-19.2, Peppermint 10, PCLinuxOS 20.02, LXLE 18.04.3, Pardus 19.2, exGENT 200119, Bionic Pup 8.0 and Xenial CE 7.5 XL.

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#2415 Post by poorguy »

Hey Colonel Panic,

Are you sure it isn't a hardware issue as a HDD or some bad caps?
Some of my old computers just refuse to boot from a cd/dvd.

Is the integrity of your iso download good.
Try installing from a usb drive.

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#2416 Post by Colonel Panic »

poorguy wrote:Hey Colonel Panic,

Are you sure it isn't a hardware issue as a HDD or some bad caps?
Some of my old computers just refuse to boot from a cd/dvd.

Is the integrity of your iso download good.
Try installing from a usb drive.
Thanks for your suggestion poorguy. TBH though I've now tried both the 32-bit and the 64-bit versions of MX-15 and both have the same problem: so I don't think it's likely that it's just one bad download, especially since more than 90% of the distros I try install just fine from a DVD. MX-15 boots just fine into RAM (both the 32-bit and 64-bit versions) and runs well from there, it's just the installation which goes awry.

All the same, I might try an MX-15 installation from a USB drive if I can do it without having to reformat the drives first (I have two and at the moment they're both used for data storage).

As I've said here before a similar situation arises when I install Salix; every version of Salix without fail now has the same issue with a missing desktop because the file which loads it on bootup is either missing or corrupt. I know how to work around it (and am willing to, because it's a good distro), but it's clear to me that it's the distro which is at fault and not my computer as I don't have the same problem with any other one.
Gigabyte M68MT-52P motherboard, AMD Athlon II X4 630, 5.8 GB of DDR3 RAM and a 250 GB Hitachi hard drive running Ubuntu 16.04.6, MX-19.2, Peppermint 10, PCLinuxOS 20.02, LXLE 18.04.3, Pardus 19.2, exGENT 200119, Bionic Pup 8.0 and Xenial CE 7.5 XL.

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#2417 Post by Billtoo »

I'm still running Slackware64-14.2 on a couple of computers.
I wanted VLC-2.2.4 so I went to SlackBuilds.org and downloaded the slackbuilds for it and it's dependencies.
It took approx 6 hours to get it done on this computer.
2x Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU E5200 @ 2.50GHz
It must have taken the maker of the slackbuilds a very long time
(thanks!)
Anyway, it's working well.

Edit: On a newly installed,updated,and setup Slackware64-14.2 only 3
out of 40 vlc-2.2.4 related SlackBuild files were needed to get a
working vlc.

Edit2: I also installed Slackware64-14.2 to the hard drive of my
Gateway desktop.

sh-4.3$ inxi -Fxx -z
System: Host: gatewaypc.office.org Kernel: 4.4.19 x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 5.3.0)
Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 (Gtk 2.24.28 ) dm: (startx) Distro: Slackware 14.2
Machine: Mobo: Gateway model: FX6860 Bios: American Megatrends v: P01-A3 date: 04/19/2011
CPU: Quad core Intel Core i7-2600 (-HT-MCP-) cache: 8192 KB
flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 27138
clock speeds: min/max: 1600/3800 MHz 1: 1752 MHz 2: 1656 MHz 3: 1717 MHz 4: 1636 MHz 5: 1706 MHz
6: 1648 MHz 7: 1726 MHz 8: 2729 MHz
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA GF110 [GeForce GTX 560 Ti OEM] bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:1082
Display Server: X.Org 1.18.3 driver: nvidia Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz, 1920x1080@60.00hz
GLX Renderer: GeForce GTX 560 Ti/PCIe/SSE2 GLX Version: 4.5.0 NVIDIA 367.57 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio: Card-1 NVIDIA GF110 High Definition Audio Controller
driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:0e09
Card-2 Intel 6 Series/C200 Series Family High Definition Audio Controller
driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:1c20
Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.4.19
Network: Card-1: Ralink RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe
driver: rt2800pci v: 2.3.0 bus-ID: 04:00.0 chip-ID: 1814:3090
IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
Card-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: d000 bus-ID: 05:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168
IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives: HDD Total Size: 2032.4GB (0.8% used)
ID-1: /dev/sda model: Hitachi_HDS72302 size: 2000.4GB serial: MN1230F31EUEKG
ID-2: USB /dev/sdb model: USB_Flash_Drive size: 32.0GB serial: AAV08ZHDCR3C3TBJ-0:0
Partition: ID-1: / size: 1.7T used: 20G (2%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/root
ID-2: swap-1 size: 17.20GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda3
RAID: System: supported: linear raid0 raid1 raid10 raid6 raid5 raid4 multipath
No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Unused Devices: none
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 37.0C mobo: N/A gpu: 0.0:67C
Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info: Processes: 269 Uptime: 24 min Memory: 904.4/16001.3MB
Init: SysVinit v: 2.88 runlevel: 3 default: 3 Gcc sys: 5.3.0
Client: Shell (sh running in xfce4-terminal) inxi: 2.3.0
sh-4.3$
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#2418 Post by dk60902 »

Linux Lite 3.0 on an abandoned eMachines EL1300G single core processor. It came with Win Vista. I have it dual booting. Linux Lite is pretty good and runs reasonably well on this old hardware. I was able to setup my wireless HP printer pretty effortlessly. File sharing to access a Win box was pretty easy, and bluetooth (which I don't really use) has a bug in receiving files.

However, I like Puppy's speed. I tried Tahrpup 6.0.5 and Slacko 6.3.0 running off a CD, but they both froze up where the computer was unresponsive, and I had to reboot. Lucid 5.2.8 on a CD runs very stably. Puppy takes more effort, in my experience, to get things running. Finally, after years of using Puppy, I learned from the forum how to setup wireless printing. I still can't get SAMBA shares working on 5.2.8. I haven't tried Bluetooth. I had high hopes for Tahr, but it doesn't seem to work well on this hardware.
HP Pavilion Mini Pentium 1.7 GHz Dual Core 12 GB RAM 120 GB SSD Linux Lite 3.8 64-bit w/ Kensington Slimblade Trackball
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LG V20 LG Xpression Plus Huawei Ascend XT2

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#2419 Post by poorguy »

Hey dk60902,

I use to use Linux Lite 2.2 but had trouble keeping the damn updates working when google chrome stopped supporting 32 bit and caused all of the problems with the update manager. I got tired of changing everything so I dumped it. Linux Lite was a good Linux distro to.

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#2420 Post by James C »

Just another Stella update....... still supported until 2020.

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[james@localhost ~]$ inxi -Fxx
System:    Host: localhost.localdomain Kernel: 4.7.4-1.el6.elrepo.i686 i686 (32 bit gcc: 4.4.7)
           Desktop: Gnome 2.28.2 dm: gdm Distro: Stella release 6.8 (Final)
Machine:   Mobo: MICRO-STAR INTL model: MS-7037 v: Ver 0A
           Bios: Phoenix v: 6.00 PG date: 06/08/2004
CPU:       Single core Intel Pentium 4 (-HT-) cache: 512 KB
           flags: (pae sse sse2) bmips: 6001
           clock speeds: min/max: 375/3000 MHz 1: 3000 MHz 2: 3000 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller
           bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:2572
           Display Server: CentOS X.org 1.17.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1440x900@59.89hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 865G
           GLX Version: 1.3 Mesa 11.0.7 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card Intel 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller
           driver: snd_intel8x0 ports: dc00 e000 bus-ID: 00:1f.5 chip-ID: 8086:24d5
           Sound: ALSA v: k4.7.4-1.el6.elrepo.i686
Network:   Card: Realtek RTL-8100/8101L/8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
           driver: 8139too v: 0.9.28 port: a000
           bus-ID: 01:0d.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8139
           IF: eth1 state: unknown speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full
           mac: 00:11:09:27:3b:5a
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 400.1GB (2.0% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sdb model: WDC_WD2000JB size: 200.0GB serial: WD-WMAL81381041
           ID-2: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD2000JB size: 200.0GB serial: WD-WMAEP2747647
Partition: ID-1: / size: 16G used: 5.3G (34%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb14
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 2.31GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2
RAID:      System: supported: N/A
           No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
           Unused Devices: none
Sensors:   None detected - is lm-sensors installed and configured?
Info:      Processes: 183 Uptime: 10 min Memory: 605.9/2008.9MB
           Init: Upstart v: 0.6.5 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Gcc sys: N/A
           Client: Shell (bash 4.1.21 running in gnome-terminal) inxi: 2.3.0 
[james@localhost ~]$ 

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