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#1996 Post by James C »

Fresh install of Debian Jessie 8.1 Mate x86-64.
https://www.debian.org/

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james@debian:~$ uname -a
Linux debian 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt11-1 (2015-05-24) x86_64 GNU/Linux

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james@debian:~$ free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:       4058672     999476    3059196      48016      23268     352016
-/+ buffers/cache:     624192    3434480
Swap:      8294396          0    8294396
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#1997 Post by 8Geee »

musher0 wrote:Hello, all.

FYI: According to DW, a new slackware version is just out.
(See date at the top left, under the title.)

BFN.

musher0
Thanx for this, but I went to slackware org and found nothing, not even a pre-announcement. What gives?
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#1998 Post by musher0 »

Hi, BGeee.

I have no idea. I just chanced on that info while checking out the distro
list at DW. I was a bit surprised myself, because usually when a major
distro puts out a new version, DW has an article on its main page.

Maybe it's a typo by the DW people?

As an aside, now would be a good time for a new Slackware version
(after two years).

BFN.

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#1999 Post by 8Geee »

Agreed, time for 14.2 or 15.0 or whatever, much has changed. I'm sure a LOT of effort and cleanup went into it.

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#2000 Post by prehistoric »

I don't think the Slackware change is really a new release. They seem to have just included some fixes in their distribution disk for recent security vulnerabilities. If your secure networking was OK before, you could just update from an earlier version, but this is exactly the problem with several recently announced vulnerabilities.

I think Slackware just did this to avoid continuing problems with people downloading a vulnerable version, and reporting difficulties.

If anyone has inside information, I'd like them to post that. What I'm doing is speculating based on what I've noticed in that ISO image.

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#2001 Post by bark_bark_bark »

I think a new Slackware version would come out when there is a significant change is big enough to demand a new stable version. Eitherway, Slackware-current seems to be very stable.
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#2002 Post by Colonel Panic »

prehistoric wrote:I don't think the Slackware change is really a new release. They seem to have just included some fixes in their distribution disk for recent security vulnerabilities. If your secure networking was OK before, you could just update from an earlier version, but this is exactly the problem with several recently announced vulnerabilities.

I think Slackware just did this to avoid continuing problems with people downloading a vulnerable version, and reporting difficulties.

If anyone has inside information, I'd like them to post that. What I'm doing is speculating based on what I've noticed in that ISO image.
I think you're right. The changelog consists mostly of entries starting like these;

n/httpd-2.4.16-i586-1.txz: Upgraded.

This update fixes the following security issues:

ap/cups-2.0.3-i486-1.txz: Upgraded.

This release fixes bugs and a couple of security issues:


http://mirror.its.dal.ca/slackware/slac ... ngeLog.txt
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#2003 Post by James C »

Vector 7.1 32 bit release.

http://www.vectorlinux.com/

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james:$ uname -a
Linux vector.linux.vnet 3.18.16 #1 SMP Tue Jun 16 15:08:37 CDT 2015 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
Noticed they've also released 7.1 Light, ICEWM replacing XFCE.
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#2004 Post by James C »

Another Arch update.....

https://www.archlinux.org/

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[james@evo ~]$ uname -a
Linux evo 4.1.2-2-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Jul 15 08:30:32 UTC 2015 x86_64 GNU/Linux

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#2005 Post by prehistoric »

I have a DVD with Vector Linux 7.1 64-bit, (Vlocity) but I've become cautious about running it. It appeared to attempt to overclock my 8-core machine, which seems bizarre. This system crashed. Fortunately, it didn't run long enough to burn the processor.

(This machine probably could be tweaked to run at that speed, but I'd be very careful to approach it a step at a time under manual control.)

I know most operating systems only use BIOS settings during boot-up, but generally they don't attempt overclocking. Has anyone else experienced anything like this? Was it a fluke?

Anyone have a clue about what else might be responsible?

I'm running DDR3 RAM at 1600 MHz, on a GA 970A-DS3P, which requires enabling special DRAM timings, but the timings at that speed are exactly the same as those on nominal 1333 MHz: 9-9-9-24. This is very good DRAM running at a speed the motherboard manufacturer (Gigabyte) says they support without overclocking. I've run it for hours at that speed. Nothing in running this way should set a 3.5 GHz processor clock to 4 GHz.

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#2006 Post by bark_bark_bark »

I'm trying out the RTM build of Windows 10 on my laptop. Wifi isn't working, so I won't be able to get the Day 1 patch M$ has released.
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#2007 Post by Billtoo »

I installed the 64bit Vector 7.1 Light to my hp desktop:

bill:$ uname -ra
Linux vlocity.linux.vnet 3.18.16 #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Jun 16 16:29:26 CDT 2015
x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4500 @ 2.20GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux

It works well on this older pc.
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#2008 Post by cimarron »

I upgraded to Windows 10 today on a spare computer (MS lets you download an iso here), to see the new changes. It upgraded fine, and left my (Mint dual boot) GRUB2 bootloader intact. That's a first!

Looks heavy, almost 1G RAM usage at startup...
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cimarron wrote:I installed Windows 10 today on a spare computer (MS lets you download an iso here) to see the changes. It installed fine, and left my (Mint dual boot) GRUB2 bootloader intact. That's a first!

Looks heavy, almost 1G RAM usage at startup...
I'm looking to go back to Windows 7 from 8.x, if I can find an affordable license. Have no wish to have MS take complete control of my PC and my online existence with compulsory automatic updates. Am looking to drop Microsoft Essentials ASAP too. Latest tests show it's 22nd from the top in virus detection (and that's probably not counting any malware MS installs).

But I am interested in trying Mint 7.02. Can it be installed to and run from a USBflash card?
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#2010 Post by cimarron »

Yes, and Win10 is heavily connected if you do the "express" configuration. Do the manual configuration to turn off connecting to MS every time you search from the desktop, run an app, wipe your nose...

Mint can be installed on a USB flash drive (not sure if that's what you mean) and run live, to see how you like it and how it handles your hardware. Very nice, polished and full-featured.

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#2011 Post by prehistoric »

That's Linux Mint 17.2 you mean, for sure.

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cimarron wrote:Yes, and Win10 is heavily connected if you do the "express" configuration. Do the manual configuration to turn off connecting to MS every time you search from the desktop, run an app, wipe your nose...
Really? The articles and discussions I've read about it all seem to agree that automatic upgrades can't be turned off in Windows 10, so everything that MS throws at you gets installed, no choice...

But if there is a way to hold off the flow for a while, won't it just make it worse when you have to go back on line to do your banking, activate new apps or download a driver update, because all the stuff that's waiting to upload and install itself will tie up your system for hours? Or have I misunderstood how it works?

cimarron wrote:Mint can be installed on a USB flash drive (not sure if that's what you mean) and run live, to see how you like it and how it handles your hardware. Very nice, polished and full-featured.
Great! Do you have to burn a LiveDVD first, or can you do the install to usbflash directly from the ISO? If the former is the case, is there a USBflash install app bundled to do it? If the latter, can you recommend a flash installer for doing under Windows or Knoppix or Puppy?

I can't even find an app to burn an iso in Win8. I've got to load Knoppix or Puppy to do it.
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#2013 Post by cimarron »

There are several ways Win10 phones home that you can turn off, but as I understand it, updates cannot be turned off. I usually suggest people who use Windows do the updates, for security patches, etc. But if you want more control of that aspect, probably better to stick with Win7. I don't use Windows much myself (I just like to know what's going on with it because I troubleshoot for others pretty regularly).

The Linux Mint iso can be installed to a flash drive, then run live from that, or installed from it. I have used Unetbootin to install a number of Linux distros without problems. I've always used the Linux version, but there is a Windows version as well: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/

Unetbootin will apparently download the iso for you (for a number of popular distros, including Mint), but I've never tried that. I've always downloaded the iso myself first and used the second "Diskimage" option.

Not sure how well Unetbootin runs in Puppy, but there is some guidance here: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=99826

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#2015 Post by prehistoric »

For creating a bootable flash drive from an ISO image you might also consider Rufus. This is up to date for UEFI systems and GPT disks.

Here are some other instructions for Rufus.

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