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Moat · #1801 Post by **Moat** » Sat 04 Apr 2015, 04:54

Mike Walsh wrote:...how do you get the extra buttons in the taskbar on the menu side?

Hi Mike -

Your OBPrecise spin is (I believe) using the excellent, easily tweakable LXpanel. So -

Right-click an empty space on the panel/taskbar, choose "Add/Remove Panel Items" from the popup menu.

From the "Preferences" window's "Panel Applets" tab, click the "Add" button.

From the new "Add plugin to panel" window, scroll down and select "Application Launch Bar" - then hit the "Add" button... an empty (button) space should then appear on the panel's RH side.

Now, back in the Preferences' "Panel Applets" tab/window, highlight your newly-added "Application Launch Bar" and hit the "Edit" button to add your desired menu application choice(s).

The Up and Down buttons in the "Panel Applets" tab then allows you to move your new launch button to where you prefer on the panel.

You can later right-click the new button, choose "Application Launch Bar Settings" to add/remove more application buttons to/from the launcher.

Handy!

Hope that might be of some use...

Bob

Mike Walsh · #1802 Post by **Mike Walsh** » Sat 04 Apr 2015, 22:22

Thanks for that, Bob; I'll give it a spin.

I used to run Lubuntu, a while back.....it, too, uses the LXpanel, as part of the LXDE desktop.....which I always liked. I ran a top task bar, and the bottom one was set up like a Cairo-style launcher (which you can set up quite easily with LXpanel).....and I also had it set to auto-hide.

Highly configurable, I think is the term. You've merely reminded me of just what you can do with it. My distro-hopping days are pretty well over; I've settled down with the 'Puppies', and my original distro, Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS 'Trusty Tahr'...

Cheers!

Regards,

Mike.

James C · #1803 Post by **James C** » Sun 05 Apr 2015, 06:47

Latest LMDE 2 RC (Linux Mint Debian Edition) w/ MATE.

No systemd.

http://www.linuxmint.com/download_lmde.php

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james@lmde ~ $ uname -a
Linux lmde 3.16.0-4-586 #1 Debian 3.16.7-ckt7-1 (2015-03-01) i686 GNU/Linux

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james@lmde ~ $ free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:       2064636    1429216     635420      81164     114856     709988
-/+ buffers/cache:     604372    1460264
Swap:      2150396          0    2150396

Moat · #1804 Post by **Moat** » Sun 05 Apr 2015, 07:43

Mike Walsh wrote: I ran a top task bar, and the bottom one was set up like a Cairo-style launcher (which you can set up quite easily with LXpanel).....and I also had it set to auto-hide.

Highly configurable, I think is the term.

Yup! I love LXpanel/LXDE - light/fast/rock-solid, decent selection of panel plugins, easy to configure... and the auto-hide option indeed is extremely handy, especially set to pop-up (as a launcher) on top of open, maximized windows.

I'm curious to see where it goes as LXDE converts over from GTK to QT... hopefully they don't mess it all up!

Bob

Colonel Panic · #1805 Post by **Colonel Panic** » Sun 05 Apr 2015, 08:54

Moat wrote:
Mike Walsh wrote: I ran a top task bar, and the bottom one was set up like a Cairo-style launcher (which you can set up quite easily with LXpanel).....and I also had it set to auto-hide.

Highly configurable, I think is the term.
Yup! I love LXpanel/LXDE - light/fast/rock-solid, decent selection of panel plugins, easy to configure... and the auto-hide option indeed is extremely handy, especially set to pop-up (as a launcher) on top of open, maximized windows.

I'm curious to see where it goes as LXDE converts over from GTK to QT... hopefully they don't mess it all up!

Bob

Yep. I've just been using the latest release candidate of Sparky (4.0), which is based on Debian and has LXDE, which is excellent for older computers. (It also has a well-configured Conky, which gives the distro an attractive appearance despite its low resource use.)

It's a very standard Debian distro in that it relies entirely on open-source software such as Iceweasel and LibreOffice and it's difficult to even download closed-source programs on it.

James C · #1806 Post by **James C** » Fri 10 Apr 2015, 05:32

The latest Semplice64. Debian Sid with Openbox.

Still even fits on a cd.

http://semplice-linux.org/blog/2015/04/ ... 7-released

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james@semplice:~$ uname -a
Linux semplice 3.19-3.semplice.0-desktop-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Apr 4 00:07:20 UTC 2015 x86_64 GNU/Linux

cimarron · #1807 Post by **cimarron** » Fri 10 Apr 2015, 15:20

Very slick and attractive DE on Semplice 7; impressive. Systemd init though...

rokytnji · #1808 Post by **rokytnji** » Fri 10 Apr 2015, 17:03

cimarron wrote:Very slick and attractive DE on Semplice 7; impressive. Systemd init though...

Not Semplice here but a way to find out if running systemd in any linux distro.

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$ cat /proc/1/comm
init

cimarron · #1809 Post by **cimarron** » Sat 11 Apr 2015, 01:02

Turns out it's pretty easy to replace systemd with sysvinit (at this point anyway)...

James C · #1810 Post by **James C** » Sat 11 Apr 2015, 04:01

cimarron wrote:Turns out it's pretty easy to replace systemd with sysvinit (at this point anyway)...

Got it done before I did.

At the moment it's pretty easy to stay away from the dreaded systemd depends mess but who knows what the future will bring.

Colonel Panic · #1811 Post by **Colonel Panic** » Sat 11 Apr 2015, 10:23

I'm posting from the latest version of Manjaro (64-bit, XFce window manager). It seems OK and quite fast except that there's no Flash in Firefox (though doubtless this can be installed).

EDIT, 17th April 2015; I've now installed Manjaro to my hard drive and Flash is working fine. I'm not sure what was wrong before, but sorry if I misled anyone.

Billtoo · #1812 Post by **Billtoo** » Sat 11 Apr 2015, 14:59

I installed LMDE-2 Betsy 64bit to a 1TB usb 3.0 hard drive, computer is
a macmini:

Computer
Processor 4x Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3210M CPU @ 2.50GHz
Memory 16374MB (421MB used)
Operating System LMDE 2 Betsy
User Name bill (Bill)
Date/Time Sat 11 Apr 2015 10:36:07 AM EDT
Display
Resolution 1920x1080 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ivybridge Mobile
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Multimedia
Audio Adapter HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH

I installed Smplayer,Kodi,KDE games, and more with the Software Manager.

It's working well.

anikin · #1813 Post by **anikin** » Sun 12 Apr 2015, 09:11

rokytnji wrote:
cimarron wrote:Very slick and attractive DE on Semplice 7; impressive. Systemd init though...

Not Semplice here but a way to find out if running systemd in any linux distro.
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$ cat /proc/1/comm
init

Minimal Debian SID. Fast and sleek.

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root@debian:~# cat /proc/1/comm
systemd
root@debian:~# uname -a
Linux debian 3.16.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt7-1 (2015-03-01) i686 GNU/Linux
root@debian:~#

Fear not systemd.

bark_bark_bark · #1814 Post by **bark_bark_bark** » Sun 12 Apr 2015, 12:05

Rip Debian Sid, it used to be good until beta-quality crapware systemd came into the picture.

cimarron · #1815 Post by **cimarron** » Sun 12 Apr 2015, 14:14

Semplice 7 has a very nice modified Openbox/tint2 DE, which makes it about as light as Lubuntu (less than 150MB on my old Dell P4). But much better looking. It also allows setting up a root account at installation, so you can run as root just like in Puppy.

James C wrote:At the moment it's pretty easy to stay away from the dreaded systemd depends mess but who knows what the future will bring.

Easy to replace systemd with sysvinit, but trying to remove systemd already looks bad (you have to remove all of these as well)...

Colonel Panic · #1816 Post by **Colonel Panic** » Sun 12 Apr 2015, 20:58

I've installed Slackware 14.1 (32-bit) and was pleased to discover that it still ships with the fvwm window manager as one of the options (one of the very few distros that still does). So, I was able to try out one of the excellent themes which have been created for fvwm, FVWM-Nightshade;

http://box-look.org/content/show.php/Fv ... ent=156697

What I particularly like about this theme as that when it iconifies a window, it creates a thumbnail-size version of it, on the left hand side of the desktop. Very cool.

The highly regarded Fvwm-Crystal desktop is available for it too.

On the whole, Slackware is a lot more user-friendly than it used to be, which makes me wonder whether Ubuntu has forced all other distros to "up their game" in this regard.

Colonel Panic · #1817 Post by **Colonel Panic** » Wed 15 Apr 2015, 20:42

Just installed the previous version of Exton MeX (64 bit), which is based on Mint with the Cinnamon window manager. It seems and looks good so far except that it doesn't come with an office suite, so you have to apt-get the one you want (I chose LibreOffice). I added a couple of other programs I liked too, such as the database program Portabase and Qalculate! (the Queer Calculator).

James C · #1818 Post by **James C** » Thu 16 Apr 2015, 07:32

Just a work in progress,Debian Jessie using the unstable Sid repo along with the Devuan repos with systemd pinned .

Running XFCE now but planning to see if MATE will go without systemd.

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james@exefce:~$ cat /etc/debian_version
8.0
james@exefce:~$ cat /proc/1/comm
init

David Andrew · #1819 Post by **David Andrew** » Thu 16 Apr 2015, 12:29

I tried out Linux Deepin the other week and was very impressed. Uses its own DE that can be switched to be Mac or Windows like. Software centre is one of the better ones I've seen as well. Still, there's a lot of bells and whistles which generally isn't my cup of tea, but I reckon it will soon rise the ranks.

technosaurus · #1820 Post by **technosaurus** » Thu 16 Apr 2015, 14:25

James C wrote:Just a work in progress,Debian Jessie using the unstable Sid repo along with the Devuan repos with systemd pinned .

Running XFCE now but planning to see if MATE will go without systemd.
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james@exefce:~$ cat /etc/debian_version
8.0
james@exefce:~$ cat /proc/1/comm
init

To avoid systemd I did a minimal install of wheezy, then (as root) did something like:
sed -i "s/wheezy/jessie/g" /etc/apt/sources.list; apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
Though with the latest chrome I have to add --no-sandbox and --disable-gpu with my old ati rage 128 card or it just says "Aborted"

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