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mikeb
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#1771 Post by mikeb »

Ok a bad example indeed..I like to put mny foot in it now and then

.. just here there is a requirement for hundreds of pounds of survey and work for the silliest little jobs often with no connection with any asbestos present which is of the non dangerous type anyway. The workmen themselves (who wear masks as a general health precaution anyway) and even the asbestos surveyors tell me there is no risk in the type of work and precense of the asbestos (house is old enough that some is used for the roof eves and built into the original floor tiles.... it was apparently used for some textured ceiling paint.)

I would never disregard others safety.... those who would be threatened were the ones saying the procedures required for handling asbestos in domestic properties were unnecessary..... also ironic that a water tank made of the stuff with a flaking damaged lid corner was deemed not a problem when i pointed it out. I think the risk of the garage roofs varies depending on who feels like spending money at the time .
But consider the irony of this situation. We send our lead-filled electronics to the third world for recycling. Then they send the lead back to us in cheap, untested consumer goods, like children's toys.
Well if that is the situation then that is unacceptable.... but it does not make the use of leaded solder hazerdous in itself...this is about negligent disposal of waste in order to save a few bucks and the wider issue of excessive consumerism and the disposable society. If safety standards are not being applied to childrens toys then God knows what materials could be creeping in there and I am sure there are plenty of other sources for lead in such a scenario.


Ok way off topic.....yet important issues. One for the offtopic section. I only brought the subject in as part of the discussion on unreliability of graphic chips in recent computers....and even thats stretching the topic... perhaps we should leave it here.

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#1772 Post by mikeb »

sorry forum is glitchy today...

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#1773 Post by Colonel Panic »

I've just installed another distro for old computers; Swift, which is based on Debian and whose main developer is a fan of Puppy. Sadly it seems to have been yet another distro which has fallen by the wayside, as the edition I'm using (0.2.0) is the latest one and was released in April 2012. As far as I can see it works very well.
Gigabyte M68MT-52P motherboard, AMD Athlon II X4 630, 5.8 GB of DDR3 RAM and a 250 GB Hitachi hard drive running Ubuntu 16.04.6, MX-19.2, Peppermint 10, PCLinuxOS 20.02, LXLE 18.04.3, Pardus 19.2, exGENT 200119, Bionic Pup 8.0 and Xenial CE 7.5 XL.

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#1774 Post by darry1966 »

Colonel Panic wrote:I've just installed another distro for old computers; Swift, which is based on Debian and whose main developer is a fan of Puppy. Sadly it seems to have been yet another distro which has fallen by the wayside, as the edition I'm using (0.2.0) is the latest one and was released in April 2012. As far as I can see it works very well.
Hello Colonel,

Yes thats true it is Debian based it is actually orignally based on Antix then moved based to Linux Mint debian edtion I do believe wasn't bad and still fuctional, couldn't Xine to work on it though,

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#1775 Post by nitehawk »

Oh, blast!
Another nice little distro gone, eh? First CrunchBang,...and now Swift? Drats. I really enjoy using my old PIII,...but finding stuff to run on it is getting harder and harder.

Well,...we still have different Puppy flavors,..Antix,..etc. etc. etc.
And the small stuff really runs great on my newer computers as well. Slackware seems to run pretty good on newer and older stuff, too. But VectorLinux takes so looooooooooooooooooooooong between releases nowdays. Whats happening with Salix, Absolute, and Zenwalk now? Hmmmm.....something I have to look into. I must also have a look at Slax, as well.

EDIT: BTW,..does anyone know of a little distro that is just like VectorLinux,...but is Debian-based???? I mean,..Vector is really super nice, in that it is a complete little distro that is LOADED with apps and codecs (and looks really good, too). Is there any Debian-based distro like it? Antix just doesn't have as many apps that comes OOTB like Vector does.

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#1776 Post by rokytnji »

BTW,..does anyone know of a little distro that is just like VectorLinux,...but is Debian-based??
MX-14? SolydX? Just to name a couple.

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#1777 Post by Colonel Panic »

nitehawk wrote:Oh, blast!
Another nice little distro gone, eh? First CrunchBang,...and now Swift? Drats. I really enjoy using my old PIII,...but finding stuff to run on it is getting harder and harder.

Well,...we still have different Puppy flavors,..Antix,..etc. etc. etc.
And the small stuff really runs great on my newer computers as well. Slackware seems to run pretty good on newer and older stuff, too. But VectorLinux takes so looooooooooooooooooooooong between releases nowdays. Whats happening with Salix, Absolute, and Zenwalk now? Hmmmm.....something I have to look into. I must also have a look at Slax, as well.

EDIT: BTW,..does anyone know of a little distro that is just like VectorLinux,...but is Debian-based???? I mean,..Vector is really super nice, in that it is a complete little distro that is LOADED with apps and codecs (and looks really good, too). Is there any Debian-based distro like it? Antix just doesn't have as many apps that comes OOTB like Vector does.
Hi again nitehawk, good to see you on here again. I think it's quite difficult to develop a distro which is based on Debian and keep it afloat, and a number of good ones have fallen by the wayside, such as Solus (whose lead developer was part of the team responsible for Mint Debian) and Saline.

Two I liked a lot and which were still going strong the last time I looked were ZevenOS Neptune, which is based on KDE, and Sparky. Both are on the big side but have a good range of apps.

As for Vector, I agree development is slow but it seems someone anticipated your question;

http://forum.vectorlinux.com/index.php?topic=17729.0
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#1778 Post by nitehawk »

rokytnji wrote:
BTW,..does anyone know of a little distro that is just like VectorLinux,...but is Debian-based??
MX-14? SolydX? Just to name a couple.
You know,...I haven't tried SolydX as yet (must try). And I have MX-14. Thought it a lot like Antix,...which meaning it is very good,..but just doesn't have the amount of apps in a small space like Vector does. Somehow Vector manages to cram a whole bunch of usable stuff in a small distro,..and throw in all the multimedia codecs as well.

@colonel panic,..

I am going over to check out that posting on the Vector forum right now (actually haven't been checking there too much of late) Thanks for the tip,..

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#1779 Post by rokytnji »

As for Vector, I agree development is slow but it seems someone anticipated your question;

http://forum.vectorlinux.com/index.php?topic=17729.0
I'm busted. :lol:

You know. Salix makes a xfce version also. I run Salix fluxbox 14.1 on one of my 9 inch screen netbooks. It don't break. No matter how hard I try.

https://vivaldi.net/forum/vivaldi-brows ... -slackware

I know it aint debian based. But if you can't be with the one you love.
Love the one you are with.

Maybe? https://www.debian.org/CD/live/

Edit: You know what. I bet Knoppix would fit you quite well. It comes with everything.
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=knoppix
except XFCE :lol:

4 gig DVD. It should be packed chock full of stuff. Vs a cd like AntiX and MX-14.
http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=08627
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#1781 Post by rokytnji »

darry1966 wrote:Try this it is Icewm which is:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/linuxbb ... o/download
Funny you mentioned Icewm. What I am posting from

https://i.imgur.com/DBIJzMU.jpg

Old IBM T23 Thinkpad. But I am downloading the icewm BBQ. Thanks. :D

Edit: only 299MB so I don't expect much with it. Which is the normal thing for BBQ linux. But I am good with apt search and command line anyways.

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#1783 Post by nitehawk »

rokytnji wrote:
Edit: You know what. I bet Knoppix would fit you quite well. It comes with everything.
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=knoppix
except XFCE :lol:

4 gig DVD. It should be packed chock full of stuff. Vs a cd like AntiX and MX-14.
http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=08627
LOL!!! That's what I've been using a LOT lately! (Using it right now). I have it on a 16G USB flash,....'cause everytime I try to install it to the hard drive,....it reverts to German. On a USB flash, it will stay in English. (?). I "googled" and saw that it's a common problem with trying to do a hard drive install of Knoppix.

Yes,...Knoppix 7.4 is the "bees knees". If I could only get it on the hard drive. Oh well,....I like the USB,..wtih LXDE.

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#1784 Post by darry1966 »

rokytnji wrote:
darry1966 wrote:Try this it is Icewm which is:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/linuxbb ... o/download
Funny you mentioned Icewm. What I am posting from

https://i.imgur.com/DBIJzMU.jpg

Old IBM T23 Thinkpad. But I am downloading the icewm BBQ. Thanks. :D

Edit: only 299MB so I don't expect much with it. Which is the normal thing for BBQ linux. But I am good with apt search and command line anyways.
Hi Rok,

Running on a Thinkpad T42 runs sweet.

Actually has quite a lot for a BBQ.

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#1786 Post by Burn_IT »

I use a T43P.
No problems so far. I might even try plugging my Kobo Arc book reader into it later being as Windows objects (though I think it is hardware since my Dell accesses it OK)
"Just think of it as leaving early to avoid the rush" - T Pratchett

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#1787 Post by Colonel Panic »

Further to our recent discussion about Debian - and Slack - derived distros, I've just booted up SolusOS 1.3 (the last stable version) for old time's sake and am left with a certain feeling of sadness; there was nothing at all not to like about it. It was smart in a conservative, Vistay sort of way and had a small but well-chosen set of apps. It deserved to do well.
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#1788 Post by darry1966 »

Has anyone tried this Debian fluxbox Distro?? http://vsido.org/

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#1789 Post by Mike Walsh »

greengeek wrote:I would be interested for you to try my version of skype puppy to see if it cures your black screen and no-sound problems. Download link here:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/6munz ... March9.iso
Thanks for the suggestion, greengeek. Sorry not to have got back to you earlier, but I've been faffing about with family problems for the last week or so, and haven't got on here for a while.

It's the 'big' Compaq I'm talking about here.....Athlon 64 with 3GB RAM (so 320 MB doesn't bother me at all). The blank screen refers to the old Dell lappie; nothing to do with Skype specifically (the various 'Pups' I've tried just won't display ANYTHING after the initial Grub4DOS and bootup stuff).....I wouldn't even attempt to run Skype video calls on her, 'cos I don't think she'd handle the 'cam, never mind the calls.

I think mikeb's right about the Intel 82845 video chip.....they just threw the rulebook out the window when they built that thing..! :roll: I do find it VERY odd, though, that a 13-yr old lappie will ONLY run one of the newest Puppies...

If I can get sound working in Skype on the Compaq, I will be one HAPPY bunny. I'll give your download a try; will report back, and let you know what happens. I'm using PulseAudio (at least that's what Skype tells me on the Compaq, regardless of what distro I run on it).....which is the one that gives all the trouble, despite it being the one that MS are now SUPPOSEDLY supporting.

Cheers.


Regards,

Mike. :)

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#1790 Post by rokytnji »

Pulseaudio is now a Skype dependency since Micro Soft bought out skype.

I have no dog in this hunt as me and my nieces talk on "Hello Fireox" now anyways.

We also used to use Jitsi instead of Skype but they like Hello Firefox better.
On topic.

Been testing and bug fixing

http://antix.freeforums.org/antix-15-t5570.html

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