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nooby · #1471 Post by **nooby** » Thu 10 Apr 2014, 22:03

The only way to find out if such is implemented is to gain
enough knowledge on how to detect it. To be too categorical
and to include Barry being blackmailed to comply seems to be
too much into fantasy land for me but sure I can be wrong.

How does one find out?

Colonel Panic · #1472 Post by **Colonel Panic** » Thu 10 Apr 2014, 22:17

I've just installed the release edition (RC1) of Vector Linux 7.1 (32-bit). It looks good but at the moment I can't really recommend that anyone else try it; the place selector stalled on the A's, for example, and I ended up choosing Johannesburg instead of London for my timezone, and so far I haven't been able to get networking going.

nitehawk · #1473 Post by **nitehawk** » Thu 10 Apr 2014, 23:28

Colonel Panic...
I notice you also are using LegacyOS 2.1 LTS. That's the new (Puppy) distro I've been trying out and using right now, too.
So did you have any problems getting it to boot?

When I put it on a spare 40G hard drive I had,...it installed grub and booted just fine. But when I try to put it on a larger (160G) hard drive ...triple booted with WinXP and Slackware,..its a no go! It installs just fine, the grub seems to install,...then...

The grub won't even work, until I use another Puppy's CD to install the grub for it. Then it does just like your user name,...loads right to "Kernal Panic". I wonder if it's because Legacy won't work on a hard drive with WinXP on it, (on the first partition)

But maybe it works only on its own hard drive,...or with just other linux distros like you have on yours. (?)

What do you think? Ever tried to dual boot it with windows?

James C · #1474 Post by **James C** » Fri 11 Apr 2014, 01:12

James C wrote:More for the conspiracy theorists.....

Julian Assange: Debian Is Owned By The NSA

https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2014/04 ... y-the-nsa/

I recommend watching his 36 minute Q&A in its entirety, keeping in mind my recent warnings about how GNU/Linux is almost entirely engineered by the government/military-affiliated Red Hat corporation.
We all must immediately turn off all electronic devices........we can't trust anyone.......spies are everywhere.

Sorry all conspiracy theorists, apparantly the headline is a malicious lie. Glyn Moody says Wikileaks denies it.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7565195

Who is upvoting this BS... This article is just link-bait and FUD... Nowhere in the video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFFTYRWB0Tk) does Julian Assange say that "Debian Is Owned By The NSA" as the article title implies. All he says is that open-source systems are still vulnerable to attacks by APTs such as nation-states through the introduction of backdoors disguised as bugs...snip

Pete · #1475 Post by **Pete** » Fri 11 Apr 2014, 06:00

It may or not be a lie, we will never know.
I'm still not assuming that Puppy has no back doors, but I would rather take my chances with Puppy than others.

peebee · #1476 Post by **peebee** » Fri 11 Apr 2014, 06:19

We are writing to you to notify you that we will be shutting down the
Ubuntu One file services, effective 1 June 2014. While the service will stop as of
1 June, you will have an additional two months (until 31 July 2014) to
collect all of your content. After that date, all remaining content will
be deleted.

nooby · #1477 Post by **nooby** » Fri 11 Apr 2014, 08:25

So if I get it the one file service makes it easier for the NSA
to put in such software or is it not related to installation of such?

Pete · #1478 Post by **Pete** » Fri 11 Apr 2014, 10:46

Nooby

It's not really important if you have to install something or not, the fact that if you use a service like Google docs, Dropbox, One file and others, all your documents are in one easy place for the authorities to peruse at their leisure.

rokytnji · #1479 Post by **rokytnji** » Fri 11 Apr 2014, 15:39

http://blog.eracc.com/2010/01/22/the-gn ... -syndrome/

Now back on topic. I have not yet decided what to do yet with this 4 primary partition Compaq CQ-57 that I customized last night.

I run Slack0 5.7 inside of Windows 7 as a .exe program file on this laptop.
I am not in a hurry yet to decide on what is next yet or how I am gonna
make this dog hunt. What I have accomplished so far.

http://antix.freeforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4957

Back off topic. I never sweat what seems to bother other members.
Having partied with Sonny Barger and Don Chambers in the past.

I figure I am in a govts. database any hows.
They will be wasting money on me following me
with drones. Your money and mine.

Colonel Panic · #1480 Post by **Colonel Panic** » Fri 11 Apr 2014, 16:21

nitehawk wrote:Colonel Panic...
I notice you also are using LegacyOS 2.1 LTS. That's the new (Puppy) distro I've been trying out and using right now, too.
So did you have any problems getting it to boot?

When I put it on a spare 40G hard drive I had,...it installed grub and booted just fine. But when I try to put it on a larger (160G) hard drive ...triple booted with WinXP and Slackware,..its a no go! It installs just fine, the grub seems to install,...then...

The grub won't even work, until I use another Puppy's CD to install the grub for it. Then it does just like your user name,...loads right to "Kernal Panic". I wonder if it's because Legacy won't work on a hard drive with WinXP on it, (on the first partition)

But maybe it works only on its own hard drive,...or with just other linux distros like you have on yours. (?)

What do you think? Ever tried to dual boot it with windows?

Hi nitehawk,

I've never tried to use Legacy on a hard drive with any version of Windows, so I honestly couldn't comment. I have had trouble dual booting it with series 4 versions of Puppy though, and others have helped me with advice, towards the bottom of this thread;

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 035#767035

I can't promise it will work on a 160 GB hard drive, perhaps John's the one to ask on that one.

James C · #1481 Post by **James C** » Fri 11 Apr 2014, 16:47

For whatever it's worth, I'm running Legacy OS 2.1 LTS on an old P3 test box with Windows 2000,Vector and about 10 Puppy installs...... 214X,412 NOP,Lucid,Wary, etc....... everything boots fine with good old legacy Grub.

nitehawk · #1482 Post by **nitehawk** » Fri 11 Apr 2014, 20:38

Thanks for the replys, Colonel Panic,..and James C.

At least I know it can be done,..it's just that somehow I'm not able to get Legacy to boot, even when I use Grub4Dos. Leave it to me to have a "glitch" of some kind

Colonel Panic · #1483 Post by **Colonel Panic** » Fri 11 Apr 2014, 23:21

An oldie but goodie; I've just installed the largest version of ttuuxxx's Fire Hydrant Puppy, Inferno, which is based on Puppy 3.00. It's got nearly all the software I need, looks good and yet still runs quietly, which is a big plus when you use an old computer like mine (probably needs 512 MB of RAM rather than 256, though).

CLAM01 · #1484 Post by **CLAM01** » Sat 12 Apr 2014, 00:32

Hi all,
I'm sorry to have started a controversy and not been able to stay with it. I am off for the weekend. But I will provide mre information next week.

For the record, I do not deprecate BK, or what he has done creating puppy linux. From my reviewing of puppy and its present situation, my view is that BK put together an excellent Linux distro. One that was too good security-wise, and too readily portable and live-use usable. In virgin form puppy can provide secure net-use for the e-incompetent (who I attempt to provide secure-computing environment to) and to hit-and-run communication capabilities to terrorists. It is puppy's ability to do the last that freaked out the spy-world crowd, become accustomed to not having to do leg-work, but only sit at a terminal and monitor, and locate. Some of the spyware in puppy is ancient, eg, 'freedesktop', which harvests metadata. The ICANHAZIP thing looks like an update of that system, and it does appear Barry resisted screwing up his hobby-creation for "security".

More later.

puppy_apprentice · Sat 12 Apr 2014, 06:01

Many distros use ICANHAZIP. Gogle for it, or search phrase "how to get own ip adress in Linux". And you don't have to use this service in puppy. I'm not using myself not that i have something against it, because i'm using usb modem and gprs connect script shows my ip so i dn't need ICANHAZIP.

But if you need extra security and if you have strong machine try Linux distro made by Polish hackers (white hats):

http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=qubes

greengeek · #1486 Post by **greengeek** » Sat 12 Apr 2014, 19:58

Pete wrote:Debian based Puppies anyone?

Which puppies are Debian based? For some reason I was under the impression that MOST puppies used deb packages, with the exception of slackware based or T2 based pups. I just really don't know which is which at all.
.

puppy_apprentice · Sat 12 Apr 2014, 21:25

jump

and Ubuntu based can use .deb.

greengeek · #1488 Post by **greengeek** » Sun 13 Apr 2014, 05:32

puppy_apprentice wrote:and Ubuntu based can use .deb.

I've used .debs on slacko and other pups too though...so was just wondering to what extent puppy code is 'it's own', and to what extent 'borrowed' from debian.

puppy_apprentice · Sun 13 Apr 2014, 07:56

I think that scripts to manage packages in Slacko (and others) understand .deb packages format. Those are compressed archives so it is easy to extract stuff and save in relevant directories. As I remember we have in Puppyland scripts to convert e.g. .deb to .pup/pet etc.

mcewanw · #1490 Post by **mcewanw** » Sun 13 Apr 2014, 23:58

Slitaz Raspberry Pi release:

http://www.slitaz.org/en/news/#d20140329

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