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Sylvander

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PostPosted: Thu 26 May 2011, 12:53    Post subject:  Puppy alternative to Skype?
Subject description: Anyone know of a PET file?
 

I don't want to use Skype when it's owned by Microsoft.

Not if I can avoid it.
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irishrm


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PostPosted: Thu 26 May 2011, 13:41    Post subject: Re: Puppy alternative to Skype?
Subject description: Anyone know of a PET file?
 

Sylvander wrote:
I don't want to use Skype when it's owned by Microsoft.



There is a .pet for google talk but I don,t have the link. It works.
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Flash
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PostPosted: Thu 26 May 2011, 15:38    Post subject:  

In Menu -> Internet there is Psip VOIP + IM client. A while back I tinkered with it a bit but didn't have much need so didn't make much headway. Now that Skype is owned by Microsoft, maybe I'll tinker with it some more.
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Sylvander

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PostPosted: Fri 27 May 2011, 03:32    Post subject:  

I know next to nothing about such programs...
So it isn't easy for me to look at them all and think "that one is just the very thing for me".
See comparison chart here.
And...
e.g.
1. "There is no video functionality in Psip and there are no plans to include it".
I'd really like whatever program I use to have video functionality.

2. Teamspeak also doesn't include video.

3. "Google talk" is closed source, proprietary; is it FREE?
googletalk-ff.pet was got HERE from a link given in this post.
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irishrm


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PostPosted: Fri 27 May 2011, 11:01    Post subject:  

Sylvander wrote:

"Google talk" is closed source, proprietary; is it FREE?


I have downloaded and used it from time to time. Its free to use. Works well computer to computer anyway. Don't know if you can call private phones, don't think so.
I use skype mostly because the people I talk to all use skype. That may change now.
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Béèm


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PostPosted: Fri 27 May 2011, 12:54    Post subject:  

The competitor of skype is voipbuster.
Unfortunately there is no native linux version.
I use it but have to go to windows.
I think some time ago I tried to install it in wine, but as far as I remember there was a problem.
Even in windows I have a problem when installing the latest version.
Some new dll is needed and I don't have it in my XP SP1.

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PaulBx1

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PostPosted: Sun 29 May 2011, 14:45    Post subject:  

It would be wonderful if this Skype purchase prompts some activity here.

Not sure why Puppy needs its own client (size, perhaps?), but I suppose now we can just download some app running under Ubuntu, right? I'd like to see a good mainstream app working, along with zfone on top for security:

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Zfone is software for secure voice communication over the Internet (VoIP), using the ZRTP protocol. It is created by Phil Zimmermann, the creator of the PGP encryption software. Zfone works on top of existing SIP- and RTP-programs, but should work with any SIP- and RTP-compliant VoIP-program.

Zfone turns many existing VoIP clients into secure phones.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zfone

Woops, now I see a lot of clients have encryption built in...

If anyone wants to dig into this, I probably will be available for you to call and test...
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Bert


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PostPosted: Sun 29 May 2011, 16:05    Post subject:  

Wouldn't Ekiga be a possible alternative?
Open source and multi-platform...

    Ease of use with a modern Graphical User Interface.
    Audio and Video free calls through the internet.
    Free Instant Messaging through the internet with Presence support.
    Audio (and video) calls to landlines and cell phones with support to the cheapest service providers.
    High Definition Sound (wideband) and Video Quality up to DVD quality (high framerate, state of the art quality codec and frame size).
    Free of choice of the service provider.
    SMS to cell phones if the service provider supports it (like the default provider).
    Standard Telephony features support like Call Hold, Call Transfer, Call Forwarding, DTMF.
    Remote and Local Address Book support: Remote Address Book support with authentification using the standard LDAP technology, Local Address support in Gnome (Evolution).
    Multi platform: Windows and GNU/Linux
    Wide interoperability: Ekiga use the main deployed stantards for telephony protocols (SIP and H.323) and has been tested with a wide range of softphones, hardphones, PBX and service providers.


If only it could talk to Skype clients... Wink

http://ekiga.org/

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Sylvander

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PostPosted: Sun 29 May 2011, 16:10    Post subject:  

But no encryption. Sad

I don't like the idea of calls being open to any/all evesdropper[s].
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Bert


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PostPosted: Sun 29 May 2011, 16:15    Post subject:  

Sylvander wrote:
But no encryption. Sad

I don't like the idea of calls being open to any/all evesdropper[s].


Ah I see, thanks for pointing this out. Has someone asked them (Ekiga) to add encryption? Often open source projects are all ears when improvements are proposed...

Thanks Sylvander.

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Béèm


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PostPosted: Sun 29 May 2011, 18:58    Post subject:  

As far as I see, ekiga doesn't make calls to landlines as skype and voipbuster can do.
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PostPosted: Sun 29 May 2011, 22:47    Post subject:  

I can live without that feature. I don't think it's going to happen anyway; it would require too much organization, an actual corporation. I'll be happy just to be able to talk directly computer-to-computer without the need for an intervening server. I suppose the main problem is how to find the other computer's IP address. Also there's the problem of how to connect since the other computer won't normally respond to a connection request it did not initiate.
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Bert


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PostPosted: Mon 30 May 2011, 04:39    Post subject:  

Béèm wrote:
As far as I see, ekiga doesn't make calls to landlines as skype and voipbuster can do.


I've never used Ekiga, but from their website I get the impression calling landlines and mobile phones is available:
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Audio (and video) calls to landlines and cell phones with support to the cheapest service providers.

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Wide interoperability: Ekiga use the main deployed stantards for telephony protocols (SIP and H.323) and has been tested with a wide range of softphones, hardphones, PBX and service providers.

Quote:
Enum Support: Enum is a standard method to provide a unified numbering system between the public switched telephone network (PSTN) and various VoIP providers. It is officially deployed country wide.


Anyway, for landline to landline international calls, there are nowadays cheap and simple alternatives in most countries I believe.

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Shep

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PostPosted: Mon 30 May 2011, 07:03    Post subject:  

I've not tried voip. I need to wait for a foolproof .pet package. Confused

But for further reading......

the browser-based imo.im seems versatile. http://alternativeto.net/software/skype/

also: http://www.itworld.com/unified-communications/166637/5-skype-alternatives-linux-users?page=0,1
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cowboy


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PostPosted: Mon 30 May 2011, 10:33    Post subject: Re: Puppy alternative to Skype?
Subject description: Anyone know of a PET file?
 

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I don't want to use Skype when it's owned by Microsoft
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That brings to mind Pa_Mcclamrock's sig, something to the effect that "it is silly to use inferior software for ideological reasons."

Since 2005, Skype has been owned first by Ebay, and then primarily by a team of venture capitalists. It's been "corporate" for quite some time, and yet has continued to meet the needs of its users. Most of the people you know are probably on the service, and will not move until the service truly declines.

The development team is, for the moment, primarily in Estonia, and would probably thank you for your continued support. And while Microsoft's history doesn't contain many examples of successful integrations, one would hope that Skype follows a better path.

If Microsoft does something foolish (such as making all Skype users login through...gulp...hotmail...)by all means move, but these days if you scratch any software company hard enough you'll find they have some truly odd bedfellows. Google Voice through Gmail might be a compromise for VOIP, though I think their free VOIP service is limited to the US. If it is just chat you are seeking, Gmail offers that, and there are other programs like Pidgin.

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