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Users and Developers - Symbiotic Relationship
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bugman
 Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 2131 Location: buffalo commons |
people are always talking about distrowatch, but one should keep in mind that distrowatch only records page visits, not actual usage of any distro _________________ . . . the machines are clean and the machines are not corrupted - lee "scratch" perry |
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puppyite
 Joined: 23 Jul 2009 Posts: 758 Location: U.S., Midwest, Central Time Zone, GMT-6 |
Here Barry says: “The choice of which distro's packages are used is not really up to me.” IMO that means the Royal Court headed by his Majesty the Water Bug are in charge. I vote for a governing council instead of Monarchy. _________________ Learn more about Puppy Linux: Puppy Linux FAQ Protect your privacy: Scroogle.org - Ixquick |
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jonyo
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 2725 |
i would say ~ generally being the key word yes |
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jonyo
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 2725 |
i mean a distro is at the whim of users period |
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RetroTechGuy
 Joined: 15 Dec 2009 Posts: 2955 Location: USA |
The older link (http://puppylinux.com/development/project-statement.htm) also notes:
So there's no change from that aspect... _________________ Add swapfile WellMinded Search PuppyLinux.US Search |
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RetroTechGuy
Joined: 15 Dec 2009 Posts: 2955 Location: USA |
Also from Barry's page, which you just cited: "It was playdayz who choose Ubuntu packages, and the choice for the next Puppy (5.3) is also up to whoever is going to manage it." But by all means, if you believe that you can get a committee to run and manage it, and convince everyone to get on board with your democracy idea, feel free to try. But let me reiterate: I don't believe that you can acquire the staff necessary to complete such a project, under your conditions. I still don't understand why you're trying to derail the next version of Puppy. However, I have confidence that Lobster and/or 01micko will complete such a project. _________________ Add swapfile WellMinded Search PuppyLinux.US Search |
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jonyo
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 2725 |
some feel it is a step backwards/sideways as opposed to moving forward, users will decide in the end anyway Last edited by jonyo on Fri 20 May 2011, 16:42; edited 1 time in total |
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bugman
Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 2131 Location: buffalo commons |
i use debian because i can get a reasonably up-to-date and complete repo on disc, and because i can easily install and use apache, mysql and php for web development, as well as whatever other software i might need or want i am on dialup so having the repo on discs is important to me i don't want to struggle with every installation, so having a normal packaging system is important to me i don't want to struggle with upgrades, so having a distro that doesn't come out with a new version every month is important to me i use a 'big boy' because puppy is too much work, too much time - i could use windows but apache on windows is shit also, i like debian's politics, and like knowing that they have a system for ensuring continuation of the project the possibility of puppy simply coming unglued makes me nervous . . . _________________ . . . the machines are clean and the machines are not corrupted - lee "scratch" perry |
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jonyo
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 2725 |
here we have heavyweight comments from a seasoned vet
http://puppylib.open-lib.net/puppy.html
Last edited by jonyo on Fri 20 May 2011, 21:35; edited 1 time in total |
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MinHundHettePerro
 Joined: 05 Feb 2009 Posts: 855 Location: SE |
Ah, the missionaries are back. Anyone remember Scunny Rob? I'm starting to get the same vibes ........ fwiw  / MHHP
_________________ Celeron 2.8 GHz, 1 GB, i82845, many ptns, modes 12, 13 Dual Xeon 3.2 GHz, 1 GB, nvidia quadro nvs 285 Slackos & 214X, ... and Q6xx Nämen, vaf.... ln -s /dev/null MHHP |
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8-bit
 Joined: 03 Apr 2007 Posts: 3425 Location: Oregon |
All this talk about a democracy of users deciding how and what Puppy should be. For those that want a democracy of a Puppy edition, how about another Community Edition of Puppy? That just maybe would satisfy those that want/demand things be included in Puppy. And to be fair, lets access to every browser and application that the end user can dream up. Or better yet, just include ALL of them. I would describe the end result as a piece of s**t. I think it is tiring reading the rants on this thread that seem to be getting nowhere other than the few that insist that what goes into Puppy and what it should be and become. And by the way, I am not by any means a scholar and only have a high school education. Also, I have taken no formal classes on anything computer or computer programming related. Some of us have problems expressing ourselves on the forum due to education or language barriers. This does not mean we are dummies or mentally deficient. So to those in this thread that insist theirs is the only way, Get off your high horse and live in the real world. |
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jonyo
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 2725 |
users decide one way or another |
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Q5sys
 Joined: 11 Dec 2008 Posts: 1126 |
Um excuse me!
I MADE A SUGGESTION AND YOU DIDNT DO IT!!!!! Hell you didnt even comment on the suggestion. Now... should I go create a tirade of posts and rant and rave that you didnt do it... or should I just quietly accept that you didnt like my idea and feel that your current way of doing things is better? Well... If I were you I'd do the former. Dont you see how annoying this would be, when someone who isnt doing the work tries to tell you how you need to do things? |
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technosaurus
 Joined: 18 May 2008 Posts: 4878 Location: Blue Springs, MO |
Here is an example of how a novice to intermediate user could help out devs: They _could_ sort through the various suggestion threads and sort out the various suggestions into a new thread and maintain the status in the first thread in concise terms (note - you may want to reply to it a couple of times to reserve the top 3 or so posts) ... also for long posts it is sometimes helpful to cut/paste from geany Why? ... devs may not be aware that a suggestion has been implemented in puplet X ... anothet user or dev may already have done it, but it is sitting on sdh8 etc... ... its a lot easier to look through a short list and pick a project that interests you _and_ have time for ... sometimes we just get sidetracked and need a little reminder ... because they get to put their own wishlist first 
_________________ Check out my github repositories. I may eventually get around to updating my blogspot. |
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WhoDo
 Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 4440 Location: Lake Macquarie NSW Australia |
OMG! How many times does this have to be reincarnated before it finally dies? Maybe "his Majesty the Water Bug" can call on his Buddhist connections to answer that one? 
Since this IS a do-ocracy, Puppyite, please go ahead and create the "governing council" of which you speak! Give us a call when you have it all up an running so we can start sending in our requests for future Puppy versions 6, 7, 8, etc. etc.  
BTW, since several former "lives" of a "governing council", also known as the Puppy Linux Foundation, have been driven by "his Majesty the Water Bug", perhaps you could seek tips on pitfalls and shortcuts from him? 
_________________ Actions speak louder than words ... and they usually work when words don't! SIP:whodo@proxy01.sipphone.com; whodo@realsip.com |
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