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RetroTechGuy

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Posted: Sat 21 May 2011, 23:57 Post subject:

puppyluvr wrote:

Kello,
Please clarify, as the only post by Aitch I find in this thread, is a link....

Please assemble the complaints in one post...
I truly do not see the "lack of cooperation" mentioned...

I'm afraid that lots of people ignore what Aitch has to say. Laughing

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And the "Beggars cant be choosers" quote, attributed to some "From on high" or some such nonsense was R.TG., who, as I recall, is a USER, and not a developer...

That is correct. I as a USER say "beggars can't be choosers".

The devs here are great, and as always, I thank them for all of their hard work. Very Happy

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Posted: Sun 22 May 2011, 00:02 Post subject:

puppyluvr i have a voice here like anyone else
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RetroTechGuy

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Posted: Sun 22 May 2011, 00:04 Post subject:

WhoDo wrote:

puppyite wrote:

The line was drawn when average users were described as “beggars” who can’t be “choosers” and must settle for what they get or do it themselves.

If we were all developers we wouldn’t be where we are now with Royal Decrees passed down from on high to peasants who can either “put up or shut up”.

Oh, so the TRUTH offended you and you decided to single-handedly elevate the beggars to a position of power?

And, as was already pointed out, it was ME (a USER) who said "beggars can't be choosers", not one of our fine devs!
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Posted: Sun 22 May 2011, 00:07 Post subject:

figures you're the troublemaker Smile

RetroTechGuy

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Posted: Sun 22 May 2011, 00:10 Post subject:

WhoDo wrote:

puppyite wrote:

puppyluvr wrote:

I assure you, I`m not being "dim"...
Read the "Official Lupu 5.25" thread....
Tell me Playdayz didnt bend over backwards...

Oh really, then why hasn't this been answered.

Because it's ill-mannered and insulting! Playdayz was the project coordinator! He made ALL of the decisions on policy, direction and inclusions. Yes, Mick was the lead developer. He did a great job! Playdayz was the driver - ultimate arbiter or dictator if you prefer - and he DID take on board each and every suggestion. Some people just cannot accept that NO is also an answer!!! Evil or Very Mad

And I am using one of Playdayz fine products right now (5.20). My thanks to Playdayz and his fine team!

And, WhoDo, I liked 4.21 as well (and I liked 4.12 also, and I liked 4.3.1 also...) -- so thanks to all of you as well...
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Posted: Sun 22 May 2011, 00:11 Post subject:

jonyo wrote:

figures you're the troublemaker Smile

Of course, I've made a career of being a troublemaker... Laughing

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Posted: Sun 22 May 2011, 00:13 Post subject:

i ain't begging anyone AND as a user have expectations

hopefully i like what i see and actively participate

RetroTechGuy

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Posted: Sun 22 May 2011, 00:14 Post subject:

puppyite wrote:

WhoDo wrote:

Go on, I double-dog dare ya!!!!! Laughing

You are juvenile aren't you?

Projecting again?... Laughing

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Posted: Sun 22 May 2011, 00:26 Post subject:

RetroTechGuy wrote:

I'm afraid that lots of people ignore what Aitch has to say. Laughing

well i happen to think that not only has he contributed a TON of selfless work but what he has to say IS important

and he is not the only one

i mean he speaks on a serious issue does he not?

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Posted: Sun 22 May 2011, 00:32 Post subject:

RetroTechGuy wrote:

If I read your statement, you wish to imply that if the devs expect no feedback, that their tools/product will not be used. Clearly false. A good tool will be used regardless of whether feedback is expected, requested, or ignored.

a dev that doesn't INVITE feedback is in lala land

it was an impediment for BK where he has lamented in the past that there was not enuff
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Posted: Sun 22 May 2011, 00:33 Post subject:

Hello,

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hopefully i like what i see and actively participate

Hopefully... Cool

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puppyluvr i have a voice here like anyone else

Agreed, and I would never want to stifle it..

This thread just smacks of unappreciation, and that bugs me...
My gratitude for the free, fun and safe..(4 years no virus/hack/intrusion) OS I use... Plus I have learned so much from the helpful "Royalty" here....
It aint perfect...but it sure beats the alternative....
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Posted: Sun 22 May 2011, 00:35 Post subject:

jonyo wrote:

RetroTechGuy wrote:

a dev that doesn't INVITE feedback is in lala land

Perhaps, but that in no way assures that his product will be low quality, or end up as unused tool... Most tools are complicated enough that feedback help develop a good product. But one cannot guess that before it is done.
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Posted: Sun 22 May 2011, 00:37 Post subject:

it was an impediment for BK where he has lamented in the past that there was not enuff

you get a good tool with TONS of feedback

and whether you like it or not there WILL BE TONS MORE when released

http://puppylinux.com/development/project-statement.htm

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Note, even I have a problem with getting feedback. I have often submitted something for testing and hardly anyone does. So if even I have that problem, don't feel bad if you do!

Concerning release schedules. I will usually release an alpha and/or beta before the final release. Usually though I am frustrated by a very limited number of people testing the alphas and betas, so I have to release the final so that more bugs get found. Fortunately bugs in the final release are usually minor. For example, I released v2.16, then some small bugs were found, so shortly afterward I released 2.16.1.

jonyo

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Posted: Sun 22 May 2011, 01:11 Post subject:

puppyluvr wrote:

If you cannot develop, be grateful for those who do, for nothing...
Appreciate the product, or learn how to make it how you want it...
Im not being rude, or mean...just realistic...

here's some reality show me the goods and it better be good

and that's just to start

jonyo

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Posted: Sun 22 May 2011, 01:54 Post subject:

and talk about lala land

Jim1911 wrote:

WhoDo wrote:

. . . .Ho hum. Ho hum. It was fun deja vuing this thread but it's become so boring now. Scunny Rob was at least creative in his ideas, even if he had no intention of ever lifting a finger to help implement them on a practical level. *sigh* The quality of dissenters around here has definitely declined. Rolling Eyes

Right on! Too bad those like jonyo only criticize and do nothing to help, only berate those like WhoDo who have really made a difference with positive contributions.

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