Puppy Lupen- K 2.6.38.4.....Compiz-Fusion/Emerald/Cairo-dock

[puppyluvr]

Hello,
Cool...
And by the dotconfig it looks you have enabled everything but the Out house sink...
Thanks for the ndiswrapper module as well...That thing, and rt5390 refuse to compile properly for me...
BTW, will things Ive compiled against lupe17 work the same for lupe22, since they are both 2.6.38.4??? Or do I need to recompile...I already D/L the lupe22 sources...

[pemasu]

I dont think so. I have made so many changes and repatched the kernel also.

Ndiswrapper from svn compiles fine, known trick.

[pemasu]

I dont know if this works, it needed really a lot source patching.

It is for lupe22 kernel. Reboot is surely needed after installing this monster.

[puppyluvr]

Hello,
Yep, that one compiled fine for me...
Now to build a lupe22 pup and compile it on that...
And, yes I know you already did, and I have it already...
Thank you...

[puppyluvr]

Hello,
@Nooby..
Until this point, it was just a test of the new kernel against 5.25, hence why it remained in the "new kernel testing" thread...
Using Woof and pemasus kernels, I built a Lupu, an Spup, and a T2pup..
All of them worked, but the ubuntu packages gave me a very solid base...So I kept building on Lupu...As it went along, I compiled everything for it...FF 4.0.1, E-16, etc, and am going to recompile everything I can, against the new kernel, for this Pup.. As I used it, it grew on me...so much so, I decided to release it... (psss...If all goes well, it will be the new Buddapup...I promised someone not to build a Buddapup for a while, but its been a really long while, over 2 years...so I think its time....but shhhh..LOL..)

I have to write a lot of "switching" scripts, and make a few mods, to make xcompmgr and E16 and GLX-dock and Openbox and Jwm get along...

BTW, the E16 I just built, the newest one, is in my meownplanet dir in my sig..it is a tarball with 1 pet and 1 deb...I combined e16, e16menu, e16data, and 4 themes into 1 pet, and the deb is imlib2, which Im gonna compile from source, as the current pet didnt work, and undeb left me one file short...
I pretty much want to compile every part on this dog I can..

Yes, testing...
Alsamixer
Retrovol
USB drives/wireless/etc...
Watch your cpu usage over reboots, cairo-dock has given me some trouble, but its the ubuntu version, I havent compiled it yet against this Pup..
See how gl works with cairo-dock, and also try the nongl one two..
Both are in the menu....
Built for intel...need testing elsewhere...Im down to 1 machine atm...
Someone try pemasus nvidia pets a on this...

Jay...

[puppyluvr]

Hello,
Latest testing...
Lupen 2.6.38.4-lupe22...


Compiz is stable, but missing some emerald and config stuff still....
And as you can see,Cairo-dock lost transparency...
But the cube works!! (Well, the triangle as it is set ATM )...

So now Lupen can run:
Jwm
Openbox
Afterstep
E-16
Xfce4 / Compiz_Fusion....

Long way to go, but it is a start....

Jay
Lupen is gonna rock!!!

@Nooby,
Your thread on Knoppix is what got me going on Compiz...
And you can bet that level of stability for Compiz is what I want..
And I aint above snatching some of Klaus`s config stuff...
Knoppix is Debian...So is Ubuntu....So little modification should should be necessary...
I,m gonna have to write a heck of a WMSwitcher script...LOL...
Non of the above "get along" at all..
Both E16 and Compiz have composite managers, and Ciaro-dock sort of does...Plus xcompmgr.....Grrrr..
What, am I , nuts???

But it can work....maybe....
We will see.....

[nooby]

Sad news again. Tested and failed to get internet. Very surprising.

Ice puppy just works. Another one that failed to get internet was one of the Dpup 485 if I remember.

[puppyluvr]

Hello,
Sorry Nooby for slow reply, been busy with B.S.
What card, wired or wireless...
These things I need to know...
The "base" released so far needs to be solid B4 I build a release with Compiz...

Oh yea, as much as I love Enlightenment, I am pretty sure Lupen will be a Compiz Pup... Ive been running the Compiz build for a week so far, and it is, to my amazement, staying true, and solid... Several reboots, and no new problems, just a few I am already working at...Namely, layering in composite..
Really, it is just Conky and/or Pwidgets..Not a biggie...you can see in this video..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_1QeAhq2go
Pwidgets and Conky are on the wrong layer..

But to comply with the Lupu standard it must boot straight to a (Compiz) desktop..So it will be pretty big, as video drivers are big, and Compiz needs GLX running first...I may create a boot option for no GLX/Compiz/Cairo-dock...Probably not...whats the point??? Either it works, or basically, its Lupu525 with a few additions...ATM at least...

I need to get it into an ISO for testing, as it is running "savefile" for now..
So far, the ISO`s have xorg problems, and Im not much for remastering...
So I combine the two...Works for Intel...Gonna borrow an ATI lappy to test..
Kernel "lupe22" seems to be the one.....The one I uploaded is "lupe17" based..
But I dont want to upload this one till it is dead on...Compiz is cool, and a pain...
But the mixture of Xfce4, Rox, Thunar, GTK GLX and Cairo-dock, under the Intel XorgHigh drivers is sweet..and stable so far, thru many reboots...

Oh yea...Nooby, post some specs...

[puppyluvr]

Hello,
Regarding "combine the two" above...
Basically, I opened up 3builddistro and put a pause before mksquashfs and another before mkisofs...Simple xmessage like "here is where you want to edit the .sfs" or, "wanna edit the ISO?"...till I click "OK" xmessage pauses Woof...

Didnt even bother with xdialog...

Allows more editing and configuring options...
Gets around some Woof defaults, backgrounds, configurations, etc..

Then click "OK" and Woof continues....

[nooby]

Atheros AR 8132 L1c Gigabit Ethernet LAN

is that a good way to retell what I have

[pemasu]

That wired eth card uses atl1c driver which should have been as module all the time in lupe 2.6.38 kernels. I know that since my ethernet card uses same driver.

[nooby]

Yes you are right. When it works then most or all puppies do use that one
atl1c

But on the puppies where it fails them shut down the LAN card so even if them have atl1c it does not help because even if they load that atl1c driver them have already shut down LAN card so the Card don't get activated and the only way to repair that situation is to shut down and pull the power plug and take out the battery.

or else no OS apart from Windows can get it going again.

Something in these puppies are so damaging to the LAN card that it most likely is protected by some thing in BIOS or how else to explain that it impossible to repair without getting it to completely flatting the capacitors to get below 2.4 Volt.


Would be cool to find out what is going on. Is there no log in Spup that one can use or Puppy Lupen?

[pemasu]

Nooby. I think that older kernels dont support your eth card fully, but newer kernels have updated atl1c. I think that is the most reasonable explanation.
So it depends on what kernel Puppy uses whatkind support it has for your eth card.

[nooby]

That seems to be a very reasonable explanation. So I should learn how to determine what kernel a puppy uses then.
Edit after reading below.

I looked and Snow pup 5 has 2.6.35.7 so that is a good kernel for me then. Most likely that is the one that Jemimah use for Fluppy 13?

So Now I should look in Spup and see what that one use. Or them tell it on first page maybe.

I am so lazy I should through each puppy and look for what kernel them use and note whom has what trouble and make a list on it but I am too lazy for that.

Puppy Lupen using 2.6.38.4 should work then because is that not one you used on Snow and Ice puppy too and that one worked?

So my wild guess is rather that I need puppies that have RFKILL in them?

Edit thanks to pemasu and GCMartin. both suggested ways to find kernel version did work.

[pemasu]

Nooby. That is easy. Just check inside /etc/modules folder.

[gcmartin]

@Nooby, or type "uname -r" in a terminal window.
@PuppyLuvr, I'm looking forward to your upcoming release to test SAMBA PET, again.

Hope this helps

[puppyluvr]

Hello,
OK, first ISO with Compiz-Fusion..
See first post...
Still buggy, but it works...
Try at your own risk...
Should not cause your computer to blow up...but...

Still tring to get Compiz, Emerald, Cairo-dock, Pwidgets, and Xfce4
to cooperate and get along...
FBpanel is off by default, an it interferes with Cairo-dock, but can be enabled.
Many personal settings remain...hey, its a test release...just reset wireless, weather, etc to your own specs...

Test please...
Jay

[davec51]

I made a frugal install of Lupen, as I have done with maybe a dozen Puppies before. Everything is fine until I get to xorg, then whatever I try doesn't work. I have an Intel graphics card, but I don't understand your instructions about it, as no "ignore" choice is ever given to me on bootup.

[puppyluvr]

Hello,
Did you try running xorgwizard at the prompt??
Choose your card, and then, at the prompt type
startx xfce4
If it doesnt work, try
xwin openbox or xwin jwm

[davec51]

Nope. I tried each of the options you suggested, but I always got the notice that x didn't work, try xorgwizard again. It may be that varieties of Wary don't work with my graphics card (Mesa DRI Intel 8456GEM, etc.).