Akita Linux, Beta 16 ISO

[gcmartin]

@wuwei, Thanks for sharing you Conky.

... Conky is another bear in the Puppy woods. Especially when you don't appreciate the black background behind the display area. ... Most of the time I get it accomplished with the installation of these 4 files (see picture) and an entry in /root/.xinitrc of ...

I see your files listed, but I do NOT see which order you installed those.

1. When you have a moment, could you share the order in which to install those PETs?
2. And, if you could, would you share the Configuration file for the "conky.jpg" desktop display you show?

You contributions are very useful.

Thanks in advance

[wuwei]

Hi gcmartin,

glad to be of assistance:

Order of files in the picture counted left to right: 1-2-3-4

Order of installation: 3-2-1-4

4 = qiv is only needed if you have the black background problem. I didn't have it in Akita, So try without #4 first.

The conky.conf file for the conky in the picture is available on the previous page in my post Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:32 am "conky.zip". I couldn't upload it unzipped.


Have fun!

[sc0ttman]

This time I have a question for you sc0ttman...

Yep, you're right.. Here is the default setting in Akita:

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	<ClockStyle>
		<Font>Ubuntu-L 11</Font>
		<Foreground>#000000</Foreground>
	</ClockStyle>

Changing foreground would do it.. I noticed the '23oz' theme needs tweaking, so the taskbar and clock look better, I will try to fix this theme, so anyone who likes dark themes can choose '23oz', cos its really nice, apart from the taskbar...

Also see <TaskListStyle> and <TrayStyle>...

[sc0ttman]

Here's the updated 23oz theme, tell me what you think... Just replace the contents of /root/.jwm/themes/23oz-jwmrc with the below, then run the "JWM Config" tool, to choose the 23oz theme:

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<JWM>

<WindowStyle>
    <Font>Ubuntu-L 11:bold</Font>
    <Width>3</Width>
    <Height>20</Height>     
    <Active>
       <Text>#f8f1f1</Text>
       <Title>Grey:Black</Title>
       <Outline>black</Outline>
    </Active>
    <Inactive>
       <Text>#000000</Text>
       <Title>#D4CBCB:#B4B2B2</Title>         
       <Outline>#ebe4e4</Outline>
    </Inactive>
</WindowStyle> 

<TaskListStyle>
	<Font>Ubuntu-L 11</Font>
	<ActiveForeground>#f8f1f1</ActiveForeground>
	<ActiveBackground>#393939:#BBB3B3</ActiveBackground>
	<Background>#BBB3B3:#393939</Background>
</TaskListStyle>

	<!-- TRAY PROPERTIES -->

	<TrayStyle>
		<Font>Ubuntu-L 11</Font>
		<Foreground>white</Foreground>
		<!-- <Background>#837f7f</Background>-->
		 <Background>#393939</Background>
	</TrayStyle>

	<!-- PAGER PROPERTIES -->

	<PagerStyle>
		<Outline>grey</Outline>
		<Foreground>#c0bebe</Foreground>
		<Background>#9B9696</Background>
		<ActiveForeground>#BBB3B3</ActiveForeground>
		<ActiveBackground>#222222</ActiveBackground>
	</PagerStyle>

	<PopupStyle>
		<Font>Ubuntu-L 11</Font>
		<Outline>Black</Outline>
		<Foreground>#333333</Foreground>
		<Background>yellow</Background>
	</PopupStyle>
	
		
		<!-- CLOCK PROPERTIES -->
	
	<ClockStyle>
		<Font>Ubuntu-L 11</Font>
		<Foreground>white</Foreground>
		<Background>#393939</Background>
	</ClockStyle>

	<MenuStyle>
		<Font>Ubuntu-L 11</Font>
		<Foreground>White</Foreground>
		<Background>#393939</Background>
		<ActiveForeground>#f8f1f1</ActiveForeground>
		<ActiveBackground>#5A7584:#2F96CE</ActiveBackground>
	</MenuStyle>

</JWM>

[wuwei]

I replaced /root/.jwm/themes/23oz-jwmrc with your version, ran JWM Config, and the changes were accepted. Clock is now white on black. Just right.

Incidentally: In Europe one displays dates in this order: Day of the week - date - month.

In order to have the tray clock look like "Di 23 Aug 16.30" all that is needed to do is change a tiny bit in /root/.jwmrc-tray:

From this <Clock format=" %a %b %d, %H:%M ">minixcal</Clock>
to this <Clock format=" %a %d %b, %H:%M ">minixcal</Clock>

Further observation:
Quite a few changes in Akita require a reboot, not just a restart of X.
I noticed this with additional programs which showed up on the menu only after a reboot.
Also the change with the clock font color wasn't accepted until after a reboot.

[sc0ttman]

I replaced /root/.jwm/themes/23oz-jwmrc with your version, ran JWM Config, and the changes were accepted. Clock is now white on black. Just right.

I've updated it again since, am using it now, with JQ8-rounded icons and 23oz GTK theme - looks very nice indeed
(but I still prefer the Puplite theme)

Incidentally: In Europe one displays dates in this order: Day of the week - date - month.

In order to have the tray clock look like "Di 23 Aug 16.30" all that is needed to do is change a tiny bit in /root/.jwmrc-tray:

From this <Clock format=" %a %b %d, %H:%M ">minixcal</Clock>
to this <Clock format=" %a %d %b, %H:%M ">minixcal</Clock>

I am not sure about the ISO I uploaded, but the Akita I am running at the moment has PupClockSet installed, so changing the time format is as easy as clicking on the time, and choosing the format you like - I predicted this would be required by most Non-English users...

Further observation:
Quite a few changes in Akita require a reboot, not just a restart of X.
I noticed this with additional programs which showed up on the menu only after a reboot.
Also the change with the clock font color wasn't accepted until after a reboot.

Hmmm, not sure what happening there, one of the desktop refresh scripts might be missing something - I do not seem to have this problem, but the scripts concerned are updated quite a bit...

** EDIT1: Actually, I think I do - sometimes Puppy 4 requires users to manually run /usr/sbin/fixmenus, or if not, then users sometimes need restart jwm - so the changes can be seen after running /usr/sbin/fixmenus...

I plan to replace all references/calls to fixmenus with jwm_menu_create - which also restarts jwm, so this should remove the problem, and make a few scripts much faster (petget, and others)...

If I have missed anything, and you find other scripts which do not update correctly, or which break the localisation of the menu, then I would like to hear about them!

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I hope to get another ISO up very soon, once I have added all the Spanish translations and a few other things...
It should be a good one

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EDIT2: I just remembered... I tried your conky rc file, I put it in /etc/conky and removed the one in /root - but it would not work - I seem to be stuck with the old layout and widgets (or whatever) ...

Am I doing it wrong? (I know I need to delete some of the partition stuff as well....)

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[trefall123]

Sc0ttman,
I'm still a newbie to Linux after three years using Mint. I know nothing about programming. BUT, I've tried every major 'light' distro trying to make an old desktop work again and have noticed a few things maybe you can implement in Akita.
I've heard it depends on kernel and others say the hardware searcher(another word but don't remember it). ANYWAY, most 'light' distros don't have great usb wireless drivers. Puppy is the exception.
Those that don't have Puppy's driver support don't contain 'built-essential'/ 'make' so the installer has to download somehow and install several packages before he/she can get on-line to download updates, compile drivers, etc. Kind of pointless to me, especially if you only have one computer. Although I suspect most Linux users have more than one computer.
Non-English support is another thing. It seems to me, if Akita will be light-ish, the majority of the people hoping to use it, won't have the latest netbook or technology. They're probably using technology from at least 3-7 years ago. I also suspect, but have never seen a demographic study, that most of those people don't live in English-speaking countries. I would assume - German, Romance languages, Arabic and Mandarin would be enough. Just my .5 cent. Don't have the brain power to give you 2 cents worth.

[wuwei]

Thanks for your response sc0ttman.

I hope to get another ISO up very soon,

can't wait to try it.

I tried your conky rc file, I put it in /etc/conky and removed the one in /root - but it would not work - I seem to be stuck with the old layout and widgets (or whatever) ...

Okay, this is easy.

The archive contains a file named conky.conf.

If you have used conky1.7.2.pet, then conky installs itself to /etc/conky.
If you have an older version it installs to /root.

In the first case the config file is called conky.conf and resides in /etc/conky.
In the second case that exact same config file is called .conky.rc and sits in /root.

In other words, you can take my file and depending where your previous config file is located, just rename the new and replace the old with the new. That's all.

[sc0ttman]

ANYWAY, most 'light' distros don't have great usb wireless drivers. Puppy is the exception.
Those that don't have Puppy's driver support don't contain 'built-essential'/ 'make' so the installer has to download somehow and install several packages before he/she can get on-line to download updates, compile drivers, etc

I am hoping that hardware support in Akita is good - maybe not for netbooks and newer laptops, but in general it should be OK - the majority of desktop PCs around the world should have no problems..

I have already added many netbook and EeePC drivers to Akita, but STILL cannot get wifi working on my EeePC 1000HA!! But I did get the correct 1024x600 resolution, after choosing the 'intel' driver in Xorgwizard... That is progress..

And yes, compiling drivers in Puppy needs some extra steps - download and install devx and kernel source, BEFORE downloading driver source and compiling them. That is why extra drivers are available in the Puppy Package Manager (PPM)...

Akita will also feature an "OpenGL Installer", so users can easily identify and download the drivers required to get 3D acceleration working for their video card.

Non-English support is another thing. It seems to me, if Akita will be light-ish, the majority of the people hoping to use it, won't have the latest netbook or technology... I also suspect... that most of those people don't live in English-speaking countries. I would assume - German, Romance languages, Arabic and Mandarin would be enough

I agree - I have received numerous messages about a previous project of mine called "Puppy Arcade" - I read various blogs, comments and review sites which said many users wanted it available in their language, particularly Chinese, Japanese and Russian.

So Akita has good localisation, at least for English, French, Spanish and Russian. I would also like to get Arabic, Chinese and Japanese 'language packs' made, so these languages can be used as well. But this is something for others to contribute.

[technosaurus]

v 0.5 of jwm tools is out:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=70804

I added an image viewer tool (xpm, png and jpeg) and a (over?)simplified drive tray ... I did have to use mount in the devicehandler script, but other than that, it is just shell and jwm

my drive tray reads sys and proc for drive info (instead of all the piping of fdisk, probepart & guess_fstype), so it lists unformatted, extended and swap partitions, but just display a message when clicked ... I may give the option to open them with gparted or something (by just changing the "exit" in the jwm_notify command to gparted ...)

the image viewer is just a hack, that I eventually wanted for the background setter, but it can at least view multiple images and resize

[don570]

I tried out 'Akita'
It has the fastest menus I have seen!!
My biggest wish is for a windows list,
so I can quickly see a list of all my open windows.
I may have a huge number open.

Is there any software to do that. The ICEWM has
a tray icon to list the ROX windows.

Opening HTML files without a browser is a pain.
Is there any small sized HTML viewer available.
I thought Puppy used to have an HTML viewer to
open the opening welcome window, but Seamonkey
had to be installed I believe.
http://tkhtml.tcl.tk/hv3.html
I'll check out this site for software.


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[don570]

I made a crude htmlviewer by launching the terminal and running elinks

It always opens with an error message though.
Is there any way to get rid of that

It shows the page reasonably well and it's fast.

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[don570]

Here are some of my initial comments, having spent last
night using 'Akita'

1) You need to upgrade zathura GUI
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 276#556276

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[don570]

2) The Softmaker office suite is available again
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 56&t=69606

Since you don't have Abiword installed
it might be useful to have a Start menu item
that launched the following

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defaultbrowser http://www.softmakeroffice.com/register_en.htm

It might be a limited time offer, but still.....

[don570]

3) mtpaint and mhwaveedit should be uptodate.


http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 2&start=60

Note:
I compiled mhwaveedit to open the Retrovol audio mixer.

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3) I noticed a lot of Geany icons. You just have to duplicate
Barry Kauler work


4) Bacon recorder is a good replacement for precord
but it needs lame to be installed for mp3 recording

5) If pupsnap isn't localized there is a simple
replacement psnapshot

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 65&t=70996


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[don570]

I like pclock .35. It requires pschedule 1.0 or 1.02

It could replace the much bigger lightsword alarm

[technosaurus]

I made a crude htmlviewer by launching the terminal and running elinks

It always opens with an error message though.
Is there any way to get rid of that

It shows the page reasonably well and it's fast.

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I dont have elinks installed but ...
usr/local/apps...Apprun

exec rxvt -title "$@" -geometry "150x40-0+0" -e elinks -no-numbering -no-references -no-connect -force-html "$@" /dev/null 2>/dev/null &

exec rxvt -title "$@" -geometry "150x40-0+0" -e elinks -no-numbering -no-references -no-connect -force-html "$@" >/dev/null 2>/dev/null &

[sc0ttman]

don570,

Thanks for the feedback and testing.. I have made some changes, some of which were in the pipeline anyway, but I brought them forward so they'll be in the next ISO..

As for an HTML viewer - I got the best!! Elinks is very light, LOADS of features and works without X... No other can beat that!

Yes, there's probably too many timer apps, but the are all tiny - even lightsword total about 50kb.. No point removing them..

I will update the /usr/local/bin/defaulthtmlviewer file, and a few others, so they use elinks out of the box. I will keep the browser-installer as the defaultbrowser - so its easy to install the one you want...

I also have updated mtpaint - which means I had to add jasper to make it work. So that's an extra 250kb added, at least... Nothing else needs jasper - can't mtpaint be compiled without? If so, what features would be missing without jasper?

But I updated mhwaveedit, its 5kb smaller, and I removed a lot of icons in /usr/share/icons, replacing some with symlinks to other actual icons, found elsewhere.. I also updated pschedule to 1.0.2, and added its NLS package as well.. There was no real need, but I thought I might as well..

Lame is already included BTW. I will add pupsnapshot and its NLS (still needs Russian), but I will not remove PupSnap - it's too good. I've yet to add Zathura GUI - there's too many right click options in there, I need to have a look at the package, cut it down and then add it..

** EDIT:: don, please look at the Zathura GUI thing, especially loading it from the menu, nearly always get a 'file not found' error when loading anything from my mounted drives (/media/Home [sda1]/files/downloads/***.pdf, to be precise)

[technosaurus]

** EDIT:: don, please look at the Zathura GUI thing, especially loading it from the menu, nearly always get a 'file not found' error when loading anything from my mounted drives (/media/Home [sda1]/files/downloads/***.pdf, to be precise)

Probably needs quotes around the ${file} ... common breakage with spaces or special characters

[sc0ttman]

** EDIT:: don, please look at the Zathura GUI thing, especially loading it from the menu, nearly always get a 'file not found' error when loading anything from my mounted drives (/media/Home [sda1]/files/downloads/***.pdf, to be precise)

Probably needs quotes around the ${file} ... common breakage with spaces or special characters

Yeah I've done that just now, gonna give it a test.. Needed a bit of hacking to be Akita-friendly as well... But should work OK now, let's see...

***EDIT:

Seems to be working OK now good stuff...

I hope to get a new ISO up very soon, here is what I want to do next:

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- i18n wizardwizard, xserverwizard, input-wzard
- get ES translations for frugalinstaller, xorgwizard, pupshutdownconfig, others
- get FR translations for eventmanager, others
- speed up the PPM, especially the dep-check function
- speed up whatever happens immediately after clicking on a .pet in the PPM (seems to take ages)
- get wifi working on my EeePC 1000HA!
- maybe make xorgwizard find the 'intel' driver first time! (it works)
- updated PupControl to 1.6.6 (thx 2 radky)
- test the 'wizardpen' driver
- find things to remove (large things, not 20kb apps)
- GUI for zdrv_cutr
- OpenGL installer
- Quickpet thing

And here's an update of what I've done recently:

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- updated /usr/sbin/delayedrun,flash-get
	- added auto flash install check thing to end of delayedrun, hacked to run flash-get
	- also, flash-get now auto-installs the flash-player-preferences stuff if Flash-10 was installed

- added french .mo translation file, for net-setup
- i18n'd pcdripper, added english and spanish .mo files
- i18n'd eventmanager, added english and spanish .mo files
- re-added i18n'd pup-advert-blocker! (no idea what happened there - .. EDIT... firedog!)
- fixed /usr/sbin/petget, "ABORT INSTALL" button now actually works again.. cutting edge stuff  ;)

- updated all in /usr/X11R7/lib/X11/locale/... from wary511q
- updated drivers-alternate, input/ and linux/ in /usr/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules/... from wary511q
- updated to Xorg binary from wary51x (saves 300kb)

- updated browser-installer to 1.1
	- now checks if browser already installed, and asks to run it
	- now asks to run newly installed browser, if it installed OK
	- updated translations
	
- fixed woofy: cp commands now use --remove-destination
- updated jwm_menu_create to 0.4, then customised
	- added translations, added 'business' category, added 'refresh menus' entry, now uses 'puppyhelp' for Help entry
- added puppyhelp GUI from shinobar/L18L... still keeping old customised 'pman'
	- updated JWM menu to use puppyhelp (/etc/xdg,jwm_menu_create,puppydesktop)
- updated fixmenus
	 - now simply loads jwm_menu_create
	 - restart jwm if running
- updated initrd.gz
	- contains printf - cos rc.sysnit now uses printf, and ash
- updated mtpaint and mhwaveedit
- added jasper, libjasper (required for mtpaint)
- updated zathura_gui and pschedule, added NLS for both
- updated indexgen.sh - now just exits, does nothing... 
	- so dropdown in main help page not updated by PPM
	- (it mostly just loads a google search page anyway!)
- added /usr/share/doc/welcome1stboot (also de, ru)
- updated /usr/share/doc/nls: now contains all relevant apps
- added icons from Wary512 to /usr/local/lib/X11/mini-icons
- cleaned up icons in /usr/share/pixmaps and /usr/share/icons
- added more translations to .desktop files (definitely need checking!!)
- i18n'd pcdripper: added de and ru
- updated 23oz jwm theme, really nice now
- removed Asunder and RipOff, we still have pcdripper, pCD and pmusic!
- updated defaulthtmlviewer and defaultbarehtmlviewer, now use elinks