SolidPup 5.1.1-B Lite and OBXF

[Tman]

I have made a custom search html file that combines a google search with the well-minded puppy search. I find it also loads faster than using Firefox's about:home as well as Google's home page. And if you click on the logo, it takes you to the murga forum.

Edit: I have removed the original tar.gz file and replaced it with a pet that installs it into /root/my-documents. The html file has been further cut-down.

[sheldonisaac]

Solidpup 5.1.1-Tint2 -- Smaller Alternate Version (97MB)

Downloaded to other computer:

ASUS P5A from about 1998
ISA SB16 sound card
2 PATA HDDs on primary IDE
2 optical drives on secondary IDE

So far only classic 214X boots without a very long delay after GRUB says it's loading the vmlinuz and the initrd.gz

Like some other Puppys I've tried, this SolidPup has the long delay.

I searched on line, and some people mention the

ata3:00:qc timeout (cmd 0xec)
ata3:00: failed to IDENTIFY (I/O error, err_mask=0x5)

as possibly related?
Those lines occur 3 times in dmesg, and same for ata3.01

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title Solid
root (hd1,8)
kernel /vmlinuz
initrd /initrd.gx

I hope someone can help.

Thank you.

[Tman]

Shouldn't the last part of your code be initrd.gz? or was that a typo?

Also, Have you tried using the grub4dos config tool to automatically detect and configure your pups?
I have mine frugally installed in /mnt/home/solid511. The following is one of my grub4dos codes:

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title SolidPup 5.1.1 - Normal Mode
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /solid511/initrd.gz
  kernel /solid511/vmlinuz   psubdir=solid511 pmedia=atahd pfix=fsck
  initrd /solid511/initrd.gz

Grub4Dos, sets the code differently for different computers, but once you have it automatically detect your Operating Systems, you should be able to figure the rest out by looking the the menu.lst file
But keep a backup of your old bootconfig file just in case.

[sheldonisaac]

Shouldn't the last part of your code be initrd.gz? or was that a typo?

Yes, Tman, it was a typo.

Also, Have you tried using the grub4dos config tool to automatically detect and configure your pups?

Not yet, but thank you, I hope to do that soon.

I have mine frugally installed in /mnt/home/solid511. The following is one of my grub4dos codes:

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title SolidPup 5.1.1 - Normal Mode
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /solid511/initrd.gz
  kernel /solid511/vmlinuz   psubdir=solid511 pmedia=atahd pfix=fsck
  initrd /solid511/initrd.gz

Grub4Dos, sets the code differently for different computers, but once you have it automatically detect your Operating Systems, you should be able to figure the rest out by looking the the menu.lst file
But keep a backup of your old bootconfig file just in case.

Many thanks for such a prompt reply - I appreciate it.
Thus far I'd just added a Solid stanza(?) to the existing menu.lst, in /mnt/sdb6/boot/grub/

[Tman]

Thus far I'd just added a Solid stanza(?) to the existing menu.lst, in /mnt/sdb6/boot/grub/

I am not all too familiar with grub, as the grub4dos config tool that comes standard in many pups has done what I needed it to do.
I always install grub4dos to the mbr on the first partition of my first hard-drive.
Grub4dos uses a menu.lst file as well, which makes it easy to confuse the two.

A quick google search led me to some grub menu.lst samples:
How to edit Grub menu.lst

[Jasper]

Hi Tman,

You wrote:

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title SolidPup 5.1.1 - Normal Mode
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /solid511/initrd.gz
  kernel /solid511/vmlinuz   psubdir=solid511 pmedia=atahd pfix=fsck
  initrd /solid511/initrd.gz 

Am I correct in thinking the "ignore" statements are to speed bootup and that they are not specific to SolidPup (I'm using Slacko)?

My regards

[sheldonisaac]

Thus far I'd just added a Solid stanza(?) to the existing menu.lst, in /mnt/sdb6/boot/grub/

I am not all too familiar with grub, as the grub4dos config tool that comes standard in many pups has done what I needed it to do.
I always install grub4dos to the mbr on the first partition of my first hard-drive.
Grub4dos uses a menu.lst file as well, which makes it easy to confuse the two.

A quick google search led me to some grub menu.lst samples:
How to edit Grub menu.lst

Thanks, Tman.

I managed to get grub4dos working (had tried it some time ago) , and it
can boot Solid , per your advice above, from /mnt/sdb9/solid511

But it doesn't help with the long delay.

[Tman]

Am I correct in thinking the "ignore" statements are to speed bootup and that they are not specific to SolidPup (I'm using Slacko)?

My regards

Hi Jasper,

No the grub4dos config settings are not specific to SolidPup. When I want to add another frugal-pup entry, I just copy the previous entry and only change the title and the foldername. With the find option, it searches all of your partitions, so frugal installs can be scattered over different drives and it will still find them. As I understand it, the --ignore option bypasses checking for pups on floppies or cd's.

That is just how the grub4dos config tool sets it up on this P4 test computer. But it sets it up a bit differently on my AMD dual-core.

I am guessing that specifying the drive ( hd 0,0 ..or whatever) and the name of the root (home) partition (sda1 ..or whatever) might make it a tad faster, cause it doesn't have to 'find' them.

[Tman]

I managed to get grub4dos working (had tried it some time ago) , and it
can boot Solid , per your advice above, from /mnt/sdb9/solid511

But it doesn't help with the long delay.

Maybe ttuuxxx has done some hacking to his initrd file in 2.14X or perhaps he has some optimized code in his bootconfigurations.

If you want to find out, I suggest asking him. I guess I cannot help you with the long delay. Please let the rest of us know if you find out, or better yet, let Barry know so that he can upload a fix to woof (if applicable).

[sheldonisaac]

I managed to get grub4dos working (had tried it some time ago) , and it
can boot Solid , per your advice above, from /mnt/sdb9/solid511

But it doesn't help with the long delay.

Maybe ttuuxxx has done some hacking to his initrd file in 2.14X or perhaps he has some optimized code in his bootconfigurations.

If you want to find out, I suggest asking him.

I asked in the 214X thread - no response. Should I have PMed ttuuxxx?

I guess I cannot help you with the long delay. Please let the rest of us know if you find out, or better yet, let Barry know so that he can upload a fix to woof (if applicable).

I took out the Creative CT2950 ISA sound card, which has an IDE port.

Then SolidPup booted without the very long delay.

[Tman]

sheldonissac,

So it appears the problem is that their is no supported driver for your soundcard. Thanks for your report.

[Pelo]

eh, the house is not finished ! je suis fran

[Tman]

Pelo,

Did the mouse work for you before you changed the cursor theme with "pcur"? If so, maybe try a different mouse-icon theme and see what happens.

If that is not the problem, all I can suggest to you is 3 things:
- check the MD5-checksum to make sure you got a good download
- try a different usb-port ( if your mouse uses one )
- try a different mouse

If you burn to disc, I recommend using a re-writable cd or a re-writable-DvD. It saved me lots of money in the long run.
Or if you learn how to create a manual frugal install, you can get all of the needed files from the ISO and do not need to burn to disc at all.

Beyond this, I cannot help you with your mouse problems and I have decided not to spend my time developing for a while...a long while.

[greengeek]

Nice work Tman. I am using TINT2 on a 2Ghz Toshiba TE2100 512Mb laptop and it's great! Love the periodic table too.

Only problem so far is the Flash plugin doesn't get detected by Opera 11.62 which I downloaded via your "Internet Apps", so not working with youtube vids. (I tried placing various Libflashplayer.so versions in the /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins and /opt/opera/lib/opera/plugins folders, including the "Internet Apps" version you have available, but no joy). Not a biggy though, as I also downloaded Seamonkey to handle the Youtube stuff.

Actually, Opera is running really fast - I will be using it as my main browser as it has always been a favorite of mine and it is just so quick and easy on the eye. Waaaaay quicker than Seamonkey or Firefox.

Sorry to see you've moved on to other projects, but hey, thanks for this little gem. It's a honey. (As is Saluki, on the newer gear...). All the best with whatever you're doing next.

[Tman]

thanks greengeek!

I'm puzzled as to why flashplayer is not working with Opera. I will probably have to look into it, for knowledge's sake. But that will have to wait for the weekend, when I have more time for tinkering with Puppy.

[oligin10]

Hi all, there has been a problem for a while about missing libs for flash player for Opera. Can't remember where, but there are a couple places here on the forum to download the .pet for this. Here it is, hope it helps.
Thanks, Rob

[greengeek]

.
Thanks Oligin10, that did the trick - Opera is now perfect!
I installed the necessary items in this order:
Opera first (Right click desktop / Internet / Get Internet Apps),
Missing Libs pet second,
Flashplayer third (Right click desktop / Internet / Get Internet Apps).

Tman, this TINT2 puppy is awesome. This would now be my first recommendation for anyone with a PC of similar age to mine (about 10 years). To be honest I think I prefer the appearance and driveablity of TINT2 ahead of the full SolidPup. It is trim, tight and fast. Really nice job.
.

[zenn]

.
Tman, this TINT2 puppy is awesome. This would now be my first recommendation for anyone with a PC of similar age to mine (about 10 years). To be honest I think I prefer the appearance and driveablity of TINT2 ahead of the full SolidPup. It is trim, tight and fast. Really nice job.
.

I heartily agree. I got used to running Tint2 on a 400mhz celeron with 192mb ram. But vnc and samba were asking too much from it so I changed to a 2.4ghz P4 with 768mb ram. And now it flies (relatively)!

As a sidenote, I've no idea why I get a better experience surfing the web through Seamonkey on Tint2 than on Wary 5.3. The browser felt strangely sluggish to user input when I was using Wary. That was 1 of the main reasons why I switched back to Tint2. Granted, I didn't try out other browsers to narrow the causes.

[Gnuxo]

Hi all, just installed this. *Tint2 version* Manual frugal. Replaced default wary.

Not really sure what my first steps should be here.
A lot of the packages are out of date. Any tips on other apps to add?

I'm thinking that the iso could be even smaller if Thunar and Lxterminal weren't included.
For a very light copy/paste terminal, I usually use EvilVte.
I only ever use other file managers for symlinking and MC is good for that.

I'm also interested in why Links is never the default browser, it's faster and lighter then Dillo.

[Gnuxo]

Hi all, just installed this. *Tint2 version* Manual frugal. Replaced default wary.

Not really sure what my first steps should be here.
A lot of the packages are out of date. Any tips on other apps to add?

I'm thinking that the iso could be even smaller if Thunar and Lxterminal weren't included.
For a very light copy/paste terminal, I usually use EvilVte.
I only ever use other file managers for symlinking and MC is good for that.

I'm also interested in why Links is never the default browser, it's faster and lighter then Dillo.

Sorry for the double post, Dillo froze on me.