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How to partition new HD for XP and Puppy?
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ICPUG

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PostPosted: Tue 24 May 2011, 07:23    Post subject:  

Thanks for the additional comments Retro.

Your idea of using Puppy to modify boot.ini so you don't have to worry about the system and hidden bits is useful.

When I created Lin'N'Win one of its targets was to allow people who did not have CD writers to install Puppy and try it out. Therefore, I could not assume they could boot Puppy to modify the boot.ini.

Also, it was geared to people familiar with Windows but not Linux. Consequently, I tried to use Windows tools as much as possible.

Despite that - if you are familiar with Puppy and can boot it then using it to modify boot.ini is a welcome simplification of the process.
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Bruce B


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PostPosted: Tue 24 May 2011, 09:10    Post subject:  

ICPUG wrote:
Despite that - if you are familiar with Puppy and can
boot it then using it to modify boot.ini is a welcome simplification of the
process.


Hi Brian,

Reading the above line - a thought crossed my mind. DOS and Unix
use different line endings.

DOS : carriage return / linefeed
Unix : linefeed

If the user drops the CR by using a Linux editor, I wonder if the
boot.ini file still gets read right when booting.

Bruce

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RetroTechGuy


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PostPosted: Tue 24 May 2011, 09:20    Post subject:  

Bruce B wrote:
ICPUG wrote:
Despite that - if you are familiar with Puppy and can
boot it then using it to modify boot.ini is a welcome simplification of the
process.


Hi Brian,

Reading the above line - a thought crossed my mind. DOS and Unix
use different line endings.

DOS : carriage return / linefeed
Unix : linefeed

If the user drops the CR by using a Linux editor, I wonder if the
boot.ini file still gets read right when booting.

Bruce

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I edited my boot.ini with Geany, on my XP system, and it worked fine.

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PostPosted: Tue 24 May 2011, 09:32    Post subject:  

RTG, do you mean with the windows version of geany?
It might be that that version acts differently as the linux version.

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PostPosted: Tue 24 May 2011, 09:36    Post subject:  

RetroTechGuy wrote:

I edited my boot.ini with Geany, on my XP system, and it worked
fine.


That would work because Geany notices the line endings - changes mode to preserve them.

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PostPosted: Tue 24 May 2011, 10:40    Post subject:  

Béèm wrote:
RTG, do you mean with the windows version of geany?
It might be that that version acts differently as the linux version.


Oh, sorry. I didn't know that there was a Windows version of Geany (I just use Notepad under Windows).

I used the Geany editor installed in Puppy (since I booted Puppy, and modified the boot.ini from there -- no "unprotect" and "unhide" of Windows files needed).

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PostPosted: Tue 24 May 2011, 10:42    Post subject:  

Bruce B wrote:
RetroTechGuy wrote:

I edited my boot.ini with Geany, on my XP system, and it worked
fine.


That would work because Geany notices the line endings - changes mode to preserve them.

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Interesting, and useful to know.

My favorite command line editor ("mg") is OS aware, and converts to the local ending type (so a DOS/Win CR-LF text file is converted to Linux LF, upon edit and save). Of course, that isn't always what you want...

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PostPosted: Tue 24 May 2011, 13:27    Post subject:  

RetroTechGuy wrote:
Béèm wrote:
RTG, do you mean with the windows version of geany?
It might be that that version acts differently as the linux version.


Oh, sorry. I didn't know that there was a Windows version of Geany (I just use Notepad under Windows).

I used the Geany editor installed in Puppy (since I booted Puppy, and modified the boot.ini from there -- no "unprotect" and "unhide" of Windows files needed).
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