Wary Puppy 5.1.4 - 29 August 2011

[James C]

-Processor-
Name : AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor
Family, model, stepping : 5, 8, 12 (AMD K6-2)
Vendor : AuthenticAMD
-Configuration-
Cache Size : 64kb
Frequency : 501.12MHz

Is that a K6 2 500? Thought I had the only one left! Can you confirm whether you can play MP3s on that?

It is indeed a K6 2 500.I only pull it off the shelf for some occasional testing so I'll try to test some mp3's the next day or so.

[Jades]

Is that a K6 2 500? Thought I had the only one left! Can you confirm whether you can play MP3s on that?

It is indeed a K6 2 500.I only pull it off the shelf for some occasional testing so I'll try to test some mp3's the next day or so.

I use mine quite regularly, its main purpose is for running old Win98 and DOS games but Lupu 511 runs very well (and does play MP3s, its version of FFMPEG being 0.5.2) and I've been testing other versions of Puppy on it out of curiosity.

While Lupu eventually went i686+ only, in keeping with its remit as the bleeding-edge Puppy, Wary is more targetted at more... experienced machines and it'd be great if my K6 2 500 machine could be one of them. There appear to be very few other users of that CPU and Puppy, so it's reassuring that there is someone else out there testing. It may help to rule out the possibility that a problem is limited to my machine only, which to be honest is never far from my mind when I experience problems.

[drblock2]

Those having problems playing mp3 files with applications based on ffmpeg can try the attached shell script.

It uses lame and aplay.

The business end of the script is in the line:

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lame --decode "$file" - | aplay -twav

The rest is user interface and idiot proofing. In a pinch, you can play an mp3 file just by typing this line in a terminal window, substituting your mp3-file for "$file".

[James C]

Further to my previous post, I've now managed to install Wary 514 on my K6 2 500 machine and while the upgrade of the Live CD install's Warysave seems to have gone through without incident I'm still having the same problem with playing MP3 files as before. Pmusic loads with the file but doesn't play it and running FFMPEG from the command line generates an Illegal Instruction error.

Is the FFMPEG in Wary, Lupu and Slacko i686+ only? K6 2 500 is i586 according to both Puppy and HardInfo (see sig for report for Lupu 511 on that machine).

Madplay still plays MP3s and I've changed the Run Action in ROX so that Madplay is the default for those files.

Finally got the old K 6-2 box off the shelf.........MP3's and ogg files are both a no go here too.MPlayer won't even launch here either.

[sc0ttman]

Further to my previous post, I've now managed to install Wary 514 on my K6 2 500 machine and while the upgrade of the Live CD install's Warysave seems to have gone through without incident I'm still having the same problem with playing MP3 files as before. Pmusic loads with the file but doesn't play it and running FFMPEG from the command line generates an Illegal Instruction error.

Is the FFMPEG in Wary, Lupu and Slacko i686+ only? K6 2 500 is i586 according to both Puppy and HardInfo (see sig for report for Lupu 511 on that machine).

Madplay still plays MP3s and I've changed the Run Action in ROX so that Madplay is the default for those files.

Finally got the old K 6-2 box off the shelf.........MP3's and ogg files are both a no go here too.MPlayer won't even launch here either.

Maybe MOCP, xhippo, mcplay or some other really lightweight audio player should be included (in the PPM, I guess)?

[linuxcbon]

When adding /sbin/udevd --daemon in rc.sysinit, got errors :

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udevd[66]: SYSFS{}= will be removed in a future udev version, please use ATTR{}=

Replaced SYSFS with ATTR in /etc/udev/rules.d/ for TI_USB and WACOM.

Another error is in CUPS rules : %k is not reckognized, so removed it.

[linuxcbon]

re-edited
Should it be /usr/lib/xtables/ instead of /usr/libexec/xtables ?

pmount :
/usr/sbin/pmount: line 217: uniq: command not found

[BarryK]

Further to my previous post, I've now managed to install Wary 514 on my K6 2 500 machine and while the upgrade of the Live CD install's Warysave seems to have gone through without incident I'm still having the same problem with playing MP3 files as before. Pmusic loads with the file but doesn't play it and running FFMPEG from the command line generates an Illegal Instruction error.

Is the FFMPEG in Wary, Lupu and Slacko i686+ only? K6 2 500 is i586 according to both Puppy and HardInfo (see sig for report for Lupu 511 on that machine).

Madplay still plays MP3s and I've changed the Run Action in ROX so that Madplay is the default for those files.

yes, ffmpeg was compiled for i686. I did that for performance reasons, but realise as this is Wary I should have compiled for i486/.586. This is on my to-do list to fix.

There were some posts on PETs for ffmpeg and mplayer that work in Wary and run on i586, but I don't recall the links. The posts were related to getting Wary running on the Gecko Edubook. The posts might have been on my blog.

[BarryK]

re-edited
Should it be /usr/lib/xtables/ instead of /usr/libexec/xtables ?

pmount :
/usr/sbin/pmount: line 217: uniq: command not found

# which uniq
/usr/bin/uniq

Regarding empty directories, some of those are needed. They get filled later, when an application runs, for example /etc/simple_network_setup gets used by SNS (Simple Network Setup).
/etc/belocs though, is not used.

linuxcbon,
Note, some of your earlier suggestions I will be looking at again a bit later.

[linuxcbon]

Thanks, I am still testing.
Have a look at : http://www.spinics.net/lists/hotplug/msg05104.html

[linuxcbon]

Here are simple commands to remove the empty directories :

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find /bin -type d -empty -delete
find /etc -type d -empty -delete
find /lib -type d -empty -delete
find /root -type d -empty -delete
find /sbin -type d -empty -delete
find /tmp -type d -empty -delete
find /usr -type d -empty -delete
find /var -type d -empty -delete

[Jades]

yes, ffmpeg was compiled for i686. I did that for performance reasons, but realise as this is Wary I should have compiled for i486/.586. This is on my to-do list to fix.

Thanks for looking into it! Thanks also to James C for digging out his own K6 2 500 and confirming it wasn't just me. I've been testing Wary on mine because it's more the target market than the Pentium D, which is my family's main PC. Getting Lupu 52x and the recent Slacko to run on it at all was more of a curiosity thing.

There were some posts on PETs for ffmpeg and mplayer that work in Wary and run on i586, but I don't recall the links. The posts were related to getting Wary running on the Gecko Edubook. The posts might have been on my blog.

I'll have a look. Someone send me the URL for an i486 FFMPEG and I downloaded it but haven't got round to testing it on that machine yet. I have a vague memory the file name said 2008 so it may be an older version.

[linuxcbon]

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ldd /usr/lib/libpoppler-qt4.so
	libQtGui.so.4 => not found
	libQtXml.so.4 => not found
	libQtCore.so.4 => not found

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# ffplay 
libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

[BarryK]

I have uploaded Racy 5.1.99. This is the same as the next Wary except for Xorg 7.6 and 2.6.39.4 PAE kernel.

As it might (or might not) have a lot of different issues than the normal Wary, I started a separate thread for it:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=71767

See also my blog announcement:

http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02481

[linuxcbon]

Not wary related.
In page file:///usr/share/doc/home.htm
Some images link to /usr/share/doc/
Some others to /usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/

[BarryK]

Not wary related.
In page file:///usr/share/doc/home.htm
Some images link to /usr/share/doc/
Some others to /usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/

So?

[BarryK]

Wary 5.1.99 (5.2 alpha) is released:

http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02482

[linuxcbon]

Is OSS disabled in the kernel ? It should be because it has been replaced with ALSA.

[linuxcbon]

typo : meeboview tries to open http://wwwm.meebo.com/ instead of http://www.meebo.com/

[Billtoo]

I did a manual frugal install of 5.1.99 to hp desktop pc.
On first boot I used probe and desktop came up using the vesa driver.
Wired network and sound good.
Rebooted creating save file and loading devx + kernal source sfs.
Rebooted again increasing save file size.
Installed NVIDIA-Linux-x86-280.13.run

Sat 17 Sep 2011 Operating System: Wary Puppy-5.1.99 Linux 2.6.32-smp
0.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT216 [GeForce GT 220] (rev a2)
oem: NVIDIA product: GT216 Board - 0682vb12 Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg Driver: (II) glx: vendor=NVIDIA Corporation (II) Module nvidia: vendor=NVIDIA Corporation (II) Module wfb: vendor=NVIDIA Corporation
X.Org version: 1.3.0
dimensions: 1280x1024 pixels (342x271 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce GT 220/PCI/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 280.13

Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4500
Core 0: 1200 1: 1200 MHz

# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
31050 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6209.903 FPS
30891 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6178.017 FPS
30989 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6197.678 FPS

I added some pets from my collection and everything is working well.