Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

reasonit · Joined: 25 Mar 2006 Posts: 54

I really like wubi because how much safe it makes installing linux. would love to have a simple wubi like tool for puppy linux.

nooby · Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 9385 Location: SwedenEurope

The two most known Devs dealing with Wubi for Ubuntu is "ago" and "tuxcantfly" who later conventrated on Unetbootin instead of wubi.

I wrote to "ago" on Ubuntu Forum to hear his views on Frugal install related to how Wubi works and as expected he likes wubi better.

Here is the link.
http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5635552&postcount=4

He says:

reasonit · Joined: 25 Mar 2006 Posts: 54

thanks for replying, but it all went over my head Embarassed

nooby · Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 9385 Location: SwedenEurope

Thanks, Yes I am a bit confused. O might confusing even.

Will be interesting if anybody else can explain it to you. In case it got lost in translation I was supportive and agreed with you.
So I hope others will jump in and explain things. Did you read ago? He dscribe it better than me. He is the Chief Dev of Wubi still IIRC.

So read about wubi on ubuntuforum and his posts and you get it.

big warm friendly smile Smile

reasonit · Joined: 25 Mar 2006 Posts: 54

doesn't matter . As it turns out , there already exists wubi for puppy. http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=518393 .

nooby · Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 9385 Location: SwedenEurope

But what you link to is Lin N Win which is on ICPUG site and I love that method too but it works for winXP and not Vista or Win7 AFAIK.
And it is not wubi at all. Wubi is something else. They create a big loop mounted file that is linux formatted inside and then they boot Ubuntu inside that exe file on Windows.

using Lin N Win you make a frugal install and not a loop mounted file.
or do you refer to the first entry in that thread maybe
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=61404

They would have referred to wubi if it was wubi. I guess you use the term in a metaphoric way.

reasonit · Joined: 25 Mar 2006 Posts: 54

they have added vista/7 support in the latest version.
well I have no idea about the technicalities , loop mounted , frugal etc. but the end result is the same. A clean linux dualboot without touching my fragile mbr. Smile

noryb009 · Joined: 20 Mar 2010 Posts: 508

The automatic installer is working on vista/7

While it is not a loopback file (or whatever wubi does), it does a frugal install, which isn't too different.

nooby · Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 9385 Location: SwedenEurope

jonyo · Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 2727

rcrsn51 · Posted: Sat 14 May 2011, 23:51 Post subject:

jonyo · Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 2727

any links? or further info?

here's where i was at
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=186876&search_id=881464724#186876

nooby · Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 9385 Location: SwedenEurope

jonyo in the link you give us above you do explain that you use EasyBCD and NeoGrub and that was how I got Puppy going too using Neogrub.

Most likely one can still find my posts on their forum under some user name like newbody or similar name. Them not happy with me wanting to do frugal install, them preferring full installs.

So rcrsn51 here above is right about LinNWin that it does not do Vista or Win7 and you and I are right that if one use Neogrub then that one can help to install linux.

So LinNWin is not Neogrub.

jonyo · Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 2727

i used neogrub with the linNwin setup

nooby · Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 9385 Location: SwedenEurope

I go to this page
http://www.icpug.org.uk/national/linnwin/contents.htm

I look at most of these pages and as far as I know ICPUG does not describe how to use Neogrub or EasyBCD on it.

I put neogrub ICPUG EasyBCD in google search and don't find clear confirmation that he has recommended NeoGrub for use with LinNWin.

He does comment in this thread though.

But a newbie would not know about that without knowing what to put in search in google to find this thread.

So great the you and I did find a solution to how to dual booting but LinN Win is what ICPUG describe on his site and Neogrub is what they describe on their site.

You where able to combine them but none of these two recommend the other just now. They maybe will in future due to your encouragement.

I fail to get what you try to say.

And I still insist that wubi is something else. Sure one can see it as a frugal install but it is not a standard frugal install. It is a loopmounted exe file that is formatted for Ubuntu or Mint inside and not so easy to use for Puppy as I get it.

Ago at Ubuntuforums is the Developer of Wubi and I don't think he has done a wubi install of puppy. So the title of this thread is very misleading.

Yeah the word "like" makes it less confusing but that is if one read that text. A google search would still be misleading seeing wubi and puppy together in the title like that. It will make people disappointed that it is not what the text says.

Here is a one and a half year old post I did on Neogrub and booting Linux Mint in frugal install on NTFS on Vista/Win7 but I failed to solve the saving of changes thing.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=386727#386727

Here is a typical childish confused post by me on Neosmart one year ago.

http://neosmart.net/forums/showpost.php?p=49813&postcount=3