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puppyiso


Joined: 12 Jan 2009
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PostPosted: Mon 02 May 2011, 21:11    Post subject:  

Oh my.. I saw .36 announcement and thinking of downloading but suddenly(out of nowhere) the link disappeared and now 40.

I do live in an era of flashing speed of information tech world.

Stunned, speechless and motionless now
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OFC Dark Puppy

Joined: 24 Apr 2011
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PostPosted: Mon 02 May 2011, 21:25    Post subject:  

[quote="alexandrion"]
OFC Dark Puppy wrote:
Thanks alot.

i'm glad they work, and sure, having text based apps tend to be faster but yea, rox is very unintuitive, thunar is so much better, that's why i use it Smile
i don't think that midnight commander is not used because it's text based, i think it's not used because it's impractical, kind of like emacs or vi
why get used to something that is not standard? you'll bound to get angry when you're on a machine that doesn't act the way you get used to


I'm glad you said that. I actually felt stupid because I realized that I inadvertently called Rox eye candy.

I think the blue color of Midnight Commander if still prettier then rox, even if it's scrolling text lists instead of icons. I think some people will get frustrated because of the inability to right click. You have to highlight and then select an action. It's tough to get used to.

However I am always trying to stand out, so I'll keep my eyes peeled for other light weight file managers.

Hamsi may take over for nautilus one day. I haven't tried it and I already see it. It's far too pretty and it's built in media tools will be too irresistible for developers. Especially the fact that the file manager has it's own skins. However it's kind aggravating for me because Hamsi sounds so cool, yet I know it'll lag.
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dawnsboy


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Location: Indiana - Republic of New Canada

PostPosted: Mon 02 May 2011, 21:57    Post subject:  

I took the 38 version for a spin on my old Compaq Presario 1603. I liked it. I like #40 even better. Nice job. Has kind of a Crunchbang feel to it.

I do find that Chromium Browser 12 has been misbehaving of late. I took the 40 version without Chromium and installed Firefox 4 from the Lucid pet repository. It runs like a champ so far.
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alexandrion


Joined: 19 Feb 2011
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PostPosted: Tue 03 May 2011, 07:12    Post subject:  

OFC Dark Puppy wrote:

I'm glad you said that. I actually felt stupid because I realized that I inadvertently called Rox eye candy.

I think the blue color of Midnight Commander if still prettier then rox, even if it's scrolling text lists instead of icons. I think some people will get frustrated because of the inability to right click. You have to highlight and then select an action. It's tough to get used to.

well sure, it's hard and for some people it's worth it but i find it more convenient to just right click an archive and click extract here than to extract it via console
OFC Dark Puppy wrote:

However I am always trying to stand out, so I'll keep my eyes peeled for other light weight file managers.

Hamsi may take over for nautilus one day. I haven't tried it and I already see it. It's far too pretty and it's built in media tools will be too irresistible for developers. Especially the fact that the file manager has it's own skins. However it's kind aggravating for me because Hamsi sounds so cool, yet I know it'll lag.

i think you are a bit too concerned about lag, if you ever used ANY other distribution you'll find out that it lags in every way compared to puppy



dawnsboy wrote:
I took the 38 version for a spin on my old Compaq Presario 1603. I liked it. I like #40 even better. Nice job. Has kind of a Crunchbang feel to it.

I do find that Chromium Browser 12 has been misbehaving of late. I took the 40 version without Chromium and installed Firefox 4 from the Lucid pet repository. It runs like a champ so far.

in order for me to fix things for later versions, i need to know what is wrong in current versions, what seams to be the problem with chromium 12?

puppyiso wrote:
Oh my.. I saw .36 announcement and thinking of downloading but suddenly(out of nowhere) the link disappeared and now 40.

I do live in an era of flashing speed of information tech world.

Stunned, speechless and motionless now

actually puppy .38 was up for a couple of days but i digress Smile
that's exactly why i was up at 4 am in the morning, i didn't want to wait another day to release it since maybe some people wanted to try it and i wanted them to share the better experience Smile



as for the era of flashing speed, i remember when i had my first pc with 14 kb modem, you would have to wait like 1-3 hours to get a mp3 Very Happy
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dawnsboy


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PostPosted: Tue 03 May 2011, 12:04    Post subject:  

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in order for me to fix things for later versions, i need to know what is wrong in current versions, what seams to be the problem with chromium 12?


The issues I have with Chromium are not specific to this derivative. In fact I suspect it to be a Chromium issue and not a Puppy issue. It appears that running Chromium as root is not a good thing and the devs want to make sure that users do not run Chromium as root.

Found this in one of GrumpyWolfe's Chromium threads:

http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=74594

GrumpyWolfe no longer compiles Chromium for Puppy as a result.
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OFC Dark Puppy

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PostPosted: Tue 03 May 2011, 12:11    Post subject:  

Dawnsboy's problem is not unique. Chromium is a horrid browser. It creates profiles and background processes that upload your info to google. That's why it glitches and lags. Also there is the privacy concern.

Alexandrion, you should have used Iron instead of Chromium. I am actually using Opera. It's fast and it's features are admirable.

I'd like to get rid of many programs like you did and replace them with things I'd like to use.

A few problems though concerning that. I use Grub4dos to run puppy thus I can't remove it. I also use word processors alot so I can't get rid of Abiword.
Though I'd love to try Siag. I wonder if Siag is any good.

I also need a good art program so I'll have to get Gimp.

I'm not really good at scripting or anything advanced. So do you have any tips for me to rework my puppy around those programs?
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alexandrion


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PostPosted: Tue 03 May 2011, 13:19    Post subject:  

OFC Dark Puppy wrote:
Dawnsboy's problem is not unique. Chromium is a horrid browser. It creates profiles and background processes that upload your info to google. That's why it glitches and lags. Also there is the privacy concern.

as far as i know chrome does all that, not chromium

OFC Dark Puppy wrote:

Alexandrion, you should have used Iron instead of Chromium. I am actually using Opera. It's fast and it's features are admirable.

well, i like chromium, but not all people use, just like not all people use firefox, or opera
that's why the no-www image is there Smile
OFC Dark Puppy wrote:

I'd like to get rid of many programs like you did and replace them with things I'd like to use.

A few problems though concerning that. I use Grub4dos to run puppy thus I can't remove it. I also use word processors alot so I can't get rid of Abiword.
Though I'd love to try Siag. I wonder if Siag is any good.

I also need a good art program so I'll have to get Gimp.

I'm not really good at scripting or anything advanced. So do you have any tips for me to rework my puppy around those programs?

it's not hard to remaster it, private message me and we'll talk there since it's kind of off-topic here Smile



dawnsboy wrote:
Quote:
in order for me to fix things for later versions, i need to know what is wrong in current versions, what seams to be the problem with chromium 12?


The issues I have with Chromium are not specific to this derivative. In fact I suspect it to be a Chromium issue and not a Puppy issue. It appears that running Chromium as root is not a good thing and the devs want to make sure that users do not run Chromium as root.

Found this in one of GrumpyWolfe's Chromium threads:

http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=74594

GrumpyWolfe no longer compiles Chromium for Puppy as a result.

the only problem i have is that the first launch in the session acts weird,
like if i just opened the pc and chromium it acts weird (because it's creating the profile that will be used for that session), but if i close it and open it again it works fine
that's the only problem, the first ever launch in a session
i find that to be a minor inconvinience and i got used to it
is that your problem as well or is yours different?
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P123

Joined: 05 Sep 2009
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Location: Northern Ireland, UK

PostPosted: Tue 03 May 2011, 14:22    Post subject:  

I have just downloaded the version with Chromium included - but when I tried it in Virtualbox this was missing. I even tried it from the second mirror.

Thank you for wasting my download limit!
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dawnsboy


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PostPosted: Tue 03 May 2011, 15:10    Post subject:  

I am not personally for or against Chromium per se but I do like the my browser to load web pages. I have no problem downloading the Chromium free version and installing another browser.

The primary point in my original post was to pass along my appreciation for this derivative. I enjoy using it. Thanks you.
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alexandrion


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PostPosted: Tue 03 May 2011, 16:04    Post subject:  

P123 wrote:
I have just downloaded the version with Chromium included - but when I tried it in Virtualbox this was missing. I even tried it from the second mirror.

Thank you for wasting my download limit!

actually chromium is included but the menus didn't update for some reason, thank you for the observation
just type fixmenus in a console and chromium will appear
start + w worked anyway, why didn't you try that?
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alexandrion


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PostPosted: Tue 03 May 2011, 17:10    Post subject:  

due to chromium complaints i remastered the no-www iso with chromium 10 (which seams to work much better) into version 0.40.1
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OFC Dark Puppy

Joined: 24 Apr 2011
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PostPosted: Tue 03 May 2011, 18:21    Post subject:  

Qtweb is incredibly light. I wonder why no one uses it much?
I just downloaded it. It's completely portable and added a desktop icon and I am trying to get it to show up as a default browser. However that's proving to be a challenge.

However I think that's a good way to go. At least for me.

I tried Chromium 12 and it's laggy. Oh boy is it ever laggy. Someone dropped the ball coding that.
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alexandrion


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PostPosted: Tue 03 May 2011, 22:55    Post subject:  

i just downloaded to try it, i really wanted to like it since it's only 12 mb but i never could
for one the search and address bars are two different bars, [Tab] totally ignores the search bar, the address bar is crowded like no tomorrow and there is no option to remove the buttons, the tabs are not on top BUT i do like the inbuilt torrent support,
bottom line: not for me Smile
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OFC Dark Puppy

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PostPosted: Tue 03 May 2011, 23:17    Post subject:  

Well there is still Midori but I'm sure you've already tried that.

One thing I did notice about Qtweb is that it downloads at dialup speed even on a broadband connection. Strange.

I'm still using it because it doesn't slow down the system. Mostly using Swiftfox for most of my browsing needs though.
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alexandrion


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PostPosted: Wed 04 May 2011, 00:03    Post subject:  

dawnsboy wrote:
I am not personally for or against Chromium per se but I do like the my browser to load web pages. I have no problem downloading the Chromium free version and installing another browser.

The primary point in my original post was to pass along my appreciation for this derivative. I enjoy using it. Thanks you.


would you mind testing the 040.1 version? i've been running it for a day and i had no chromium problems, could you confirm that?
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