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OFC Dark Puppy

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PostPosted: Mon 02 May 2011, 13:48    Post_subject:  

I'm not an expert or anything but I think that Pypanel would work wonders in this pup of yours. Since you included Python.

It's supposed to be better then FBpanel and also very lightweight.
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alexandrion


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PostPosted: Mon 02 May 2011, 14:10    Post_subject:  

this is not fbpanel, it's tint2
i tried pypanel at one point but i never got to like it as much as i like tint2, thank you for the suggestion tho
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OFC Dark Puppy

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PostPosted: Mon 02 May 2011, 14:27    Post_subject:  

I also like tint 2 when I tried it.

I just never figured out how to add a tray or get it to start up right.

Like I said I'm no expert.
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alexandrion


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PostPosted: Mon 02 May 2011, 14:31    Post_subject:  

OFC Dark Puppy wrote:
I also like tint 2 when I tried it.

I just never figured out how to add a tray or get it to start up right.

Like I said I'm no expert.


what do you mean by add a tray?
and to start up right just add tint2 & in your .xinitrc file Smile
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OFC Dark Puppy

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PostPosted: Mon 02 May 2011, 16:26    Post_subject:    

Well I was using Openbox in Mint. I wasn't using puppy. So I was actually scripting a autostart.sh

However it would start up in gnome too. I didn't know how to get it to only start up with Openbox. And I couldn't figure out how to add Stalonetray.

I don't like Fbpanel in puppy since the right click menu has all the same features anyway. By using Tint2 which I think is faster, I think puppy could be much faster.

However I would also like to try Wbar in puppy, but I've not figured out how to configure it.

I'm really new at this.

Actually I've always wanted to try Midnight Commander, since I'm talking about customs. How fast is Midnight Commander? I hear it's really good.
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alexandrion


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PostPosted: Mon 02 May 2011, 16:30    Post_subject:  

OFC Dark Puppy wrote:
Well I was using Openbox in Mint. I wasn't using puppy. So I was actually scripting a autostart.sh

However it would start up in gnome too. I didn't know how to get it to only start up with Openbox. And I couldn't figure out how to add Stalonetray.

I don't like Fbpanel in puppy since the right click menu has all the same features anyway. By using Tint2 which I think is faster, I think puppy could be much faster.

However I would also like to try Wbar in puppy, but I've not figured out how to configure it.

I'm really new at this.

Actually I've always wanted to try Midnight Commander, since I'm talking about customs. How fast is Midnight Commander? I hear it's really good.

i never used midnight commander, and i didn't manage to configure wbar either
i tried this one time i was using debian, the only acceptable-looking tray i manage to configure was awn but the eyecandy isn't worth the performance loss with one of those

also about your tint2, maybe gnome added it to the startup list automatically?
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OFC Dark Puppy

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PostPosted: Mon 02 May 2011, 16:40    Post_subject:  

I don't know. After a long time of hassling with Openbox in Mint, the people in the mint forum told me to stop wasting their time and go use puppy linux.
So I did.

Wink

While I was reading up on Openbox I heard about many tiny little panels.
BMpanel, Slimdock, Pypanel,

I don't know if I'll ever use any of them.

One thing that I really need is the ability to use the make command in terminal. By default Puppy's terminal has very limited abilities.

Speaking of Midnight Commander. After updating to the newest pup, I realized that Midnight Commander is in the PPM. However it needs something called slang as a dependency. Slang isn't in the PPM and that seems stupid to me.
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alexandrion


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PostPosted: Mon 02 May 2011, 16:53    Post_subject:  

i don't know, i've never used it, doesn't it start when you open it?
python has a lot of dependencies but i didn't install any and it still works
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OFC Dark Puppy

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PostPosted: Mon 02 May 2011, 17:03    Post_subject:  

I could try. But if Midnight Commander doesn't work then I'll have to ask the developers to stuff slang into their ppm.

However I realized that there is no cleaning program for puppy. In the past after a bit of messing with puppy I'd have to delete my save and start fresh since it would begin to lag. All that history and all those pets are still saved in Puppy mucking up performance.

On another post I read that bleachbit is written in python. So for people using your puppy. That could be an option. I might have to install python anyways in order to use bleachbit.

What language was Ubuntu Tweak written in? Ubuntu Tweak is another cleaning program which I have used alot in linux. I'd love to use it in puppy.

It does come with a lot of extras like tweaking compiz and UT even comes with a package manager of it's own where you can download some recommends it gives you.

In puppy some of those features should be optional. It would be wonderful if the developers would write a variation on ubuntu tweak, called puppy tweak.
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alexandrion


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PostPosted: Mon 02 May 2011, 17:32    Post_subject:  

why would you need a cleaning tool?
i was curious about your post so i checked the var folder and mine has only 2 mb, i checked my ubuntu var folder and it has over 350, it seams puppy does a splendid job of clearing temporary files
also for developing tools you might want to download the devx sfs
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OFC Dark Puppy

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PostPosted: Mon 02 May 2011, 18:15    Post_subject:  

Well I've just exausted all my personal storage watching videos online. That's something that sort of peeved me.

I didn't know that the cache uses up puppy's storage.

I may get devx. Thanks for the suggestion. However I was simply relaying what I read on another post. There is a post in suggestions asking for Bleachbit. It's called cleaning tools.

I really don't know how good puppy is at removing temporary files, however I've noticed that program entries tend to stick around even after I've deleted the program.

If I uninstall a program, I'd like to make sure that all of it is gone. Also Ubuntu Tweak cleans out the package manager cache. Since you usually download the list of programs in the package manager.

However I'm not sure how compatible that would be with PPM.

It would still be a nice idea to have a maintenance program for some things. At least until the developers release an update that even makes 525 look like DSL.
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PostPosted: Mon 02 May 2011, 19:27    Post_subject:  

here, this should work
i do not support this package in any way
bleachbit-0.7.3.pet
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alexandrion


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PostPosted: Mon 02 May 2011, 20:38    Post_subject:  

v0.40 now available
improvements include
    better terminal emulator
    chromium now launches thunar instead of rox
    inluded ppy-mount v0.04
    lighter icon pack
    smaller iso size Very Happy
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OFC Dark Puppy

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PostPosted: Mon 02 May 2011, 20:48    Post_subject:  

Thanks alot.

I've installed Bleachbit.

I've also got Midnight Commander working. You said you didn't try it. It's much faster and lighter then Rox file manager. Much of that is because it's text based.

It's a bit more advanced then anything I've ever used. But It's not really confusing either. It's pretty straight forward.

I think having midnight commander over Rox would make an Os faster, however beginners and people who love eye candy won't really enjoy it much.

I also found a neat program called WMdrawer. It's basically an animated drawer that opens up to reveal app launchers. I found it hilarious.

I think the site though is either not working anymore or in some sort of maintenance.

Anyway thanks again for Bleachbit. I hope to try your Puppy Reborn when it's finished.
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alexandrion


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PostPosted: Mon 02 May 2011, 21:07    Post_subject:  

OFC Dark Puppy wrote:
Thanks alot.

I've installed Bleachbit.

I've also got Midnight Commander working. You said you didn't try it. It's much faster and lighter then Rox file manager. Much of that is because it's text based.

It's a bit more advanced then anything I've ever used. But It's not really confusing either. It's pretty straight forward.

I think having midnight commander over Rox would make an Os faster, however beginners and people who love eye candy won't really enjoy it much.

i'm glad they work, and sure, having text based apps tend to be faster but yea, rox is very unintuitive, thunar is so much better, that's why i use it Smile
i don't think that midnight commander is not used because it's text based, i think it's not used because it's impractical, kind of like emacs or vi
why get used to something that is not standard? you'll bound to get angry when you're on a machine that doesn't act the way you get used to
OFC Dark Puppy wrote:

I also found a neat program called WMdrawer. It's basically an animated drawer that opens up to reveal app launchers. I found it hilarious.

I think the site though is either not working anymore or in some sort of maintenance.

Anyway thanks again for Bleachbit. I hope to try your Puppy Reborn when it's finished.

sure, no problem, and as for my puppy, i don't think it'll ever reach a final stage because there is no goal in how well a distro can perform
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