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pemasu


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PostPosted: Wed 08 Jun 2011, 11:37    Post subject:  

Lobster. You give me repeatedly tachycardia with your findings, lol.
I am right now designing Ice Puppy-014 with working puppyinstaller, if my fix works. I am also updating some applications.
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PostPosted: Wed 08 Jun 2011, 12:03    Post subject:  

Sorry Embarassed am being sent to Mars as a punishment
http://marsparticipate.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/participate/sendyourname/?action=getcert&hashid=B04768238D2739666A496842845F3A5E

013 (fresh install) went very well
So far used browser, chat and Transmission
without incident
Is there an ATI Radeon crystal graphics pet compile yet?
Would like to use Openshot.

If you want the wiki page modified (and do not feel like registering) let me know Cool

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PostPosted: Wed 08 Jun 2011, 12:20    Post subject:  

Lobster. I might register due to you made announcement there. Sorry, I really havent time to make graphics driver pets.
My time has went with qt4 libs creating, application compiling and learning qt4 and cmake behavior. And struggling with puppyinstaller.
New Qt4 libs are not yet installed in Ice Puppy or Snow Puppy. I would like to get rid of python if I can find qt4 radio streaming application insted of Streamtuner2. I really do hate Python with its needs of modules all the time. And i hate PyQt4 also, lol.
Only candidate so far has been YaRock and it needs full gstreamer support. Choices...choices...
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Jun 2011, 01:03    Post subject:  

Ice Puppy 013 live multi-session cd on the old dual-core I just assembled a few days ago.
Sound and internet good on initial boot but had to start "nox" and choose the vesa driver........ no problem after first save to cd though.

Thu 9 Jun 2011 Operating System: Ice Puppy-013 Linux 2.6.38
00:12.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C68 [GeForce 7050 PV / nForce 630a] (rev a2)
oem: NVIDIA product: MCP67 - mcp68-01 Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg Driver: vesa
X.Org version: 1.7.6
dimensions: 1024x768 pixels (271x203 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa Project
OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 7.7.1

AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+
Core 0: 2693 1: 2693 MHz

...the above also recorded at '/tmp/root/report-video-glx'.

# glxgear
1275 frames in 5.0 seconds
1591 frames in 5.0 seconds
1586 frames in 5.0 seconds
1576 frames in 5.0 seconds
1578 frames in 5.0 seconds
1501 frames in 5.0 seconds
-Computer-
Processor : 2x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+
Memory : 903MB (190MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Thu 09 Jun 2011 12:14:09 AM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Software Rasterizer
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia

# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 903608 646400 257208 0 63800
Swap: 4194300 0 4194300
Total: 5097908 646400 4451508
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Jun 2011, 02:29    Post subject:  

pemasu wrote:
Lobster. I might register due to you made announcement there. Sorry, I really havent time to make graphics driver pets.


Embarassed No worries. You may have told me that before - sorry if I
forgot . . . Embarassed

I have 013 working on a second computer - sort of
the memory is in the red (only thing I added is Flash)
and the graphics - I think it choose Vesa
- it might crash - will send and edit this post
Update - yep adobe Flash crashed almost immediately after the first send of post and locked up Firefox
- wait Firefox (after 2 minutes has closed itself.)
Memory still in the red.
Other things happening. CPU was in the red - returning back down
so again it is a takedown by Flash.

The wifi connection was easy to set up
Lucid 525 works OK on this second machine
after creating a save file (I am running in 'live CD' mode)
I found the wifi is not persistent but FIrefox seems much happier.
Need to use the system a bit . . .

- incidentally I am using this on my 'standing desk computer'
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=527592&search_id=1294779099#527592

Good luck with 014 Smile

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Processor AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+
Memory 254MB (117MB used)
Operating System Unknown distribution
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Thu 09 Jun 2011 06:34:01 UTC
Display
Resolution 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Software Rasterizer
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Multimedia
Audio Adapter VIA8233 - VIA 8235


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PostPosted: Thu 09 Jun 2011, 09:34    Post subject:  

Lobster. I believe that core2 optimization is not for every older processors good choice. AMD Sempron has been problematic before.
I am right now making Ice Puppy-014. Then is time to make bug fix release of Snow Puppy-020.

Next will be creating Polarpup with Qt4 4.8.0 libs inbuild and get rid of Python. That version comes with Smplayer and Umplayer. VLC is just too problematic to compile in Lucid Puppies. It takes too much my time to solve all the obstacles. And Smplayer and Umplayer are smaller together than VLC. Also Gnome-mplayer and gecko-mediaplayer will be included.
Kernel will be probably 2.6.38.4 low latency intel atom optimization with highmem+pae.

After that or in between is time to compile Intel Atom optimization 2.6.38 kernel. And maybe that conservative 486 without highmem+pae.

Man. I wish the evenings and spare time would be longer. Cant you loan hours from future months or clone yourself to do three things same time.
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Jun 2011, 10:38    Post subject:  

Ice Puppy-014 is uploaded. Mainly 014 is bug fix release for puppyinstaller. Pmusic updated to 1.8.3, Default Programs Chooser added, Gnome-Mplayer 1.0.3 recompiled with libmusicbrainz3 support, GonGetIt added, disable-touchpad-when-writing functionality added.

Download link: http://smokey01.com/pemasu/IcePuppy-014
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Jun 2011, 14:51    Post subject:  

Did ip14 frugal hdd on ext4 install. added sea monkey21rcl, google earth 6.03.217, celestia 160, all work as expected including the universal installer. I use sea monkey without flash.

Broadcom_ip10_.100.82.38-lupe22 pet added and works without issue.

What didn't work on my HP is the disable-touchpad-when-writing feature.

Noted glx gears has the highest numbers to date.

# glxgears
4568 frames in 5.0 seconds
4818 frames in 5.0 seconds
7010 frames in 5.0 seconds
7036 frames in 5.0 seconds
7039 frames in 5.0 seconds
7026 frames in 5.0 seconds
7044 frames in 5.0 seconds
7040 frames in 5.0 seconds
7028 frames in 5.0 seconds

Thu 9 Jun 2011 Operating System: Ice Puppy-014 Linux 2.6.38
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
oem: Intel(R)Ironlake Mobile Graphics Chipset Accelerated VGA BIOS product: Intel(R)Ironlake Mobile Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0

X Server: Xorg Driver: unknown
X.Org version: 1.7.6
dimensions: 1024x768 pixels (270x203 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) IGDNG_M GEM 20091221 2009Q4 x86/MMX/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 7.7.1

Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU P6100
Core 0: 1999 1: 1999 MHz

...the above also recorded at '/tmp/root/report-video-glx'.

pemasu thanks for the fix!
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Jun 2011, 15:16    Post subject:  

Jim3630. Thank you of your initial report. Good to hear that we are back on the basics.

About touchpad disabling when writing feature. I noticed that syndaemon does not work before you have clicked the Flsynclient launcher in Menu, get the message about restarting X, restart X accordingly and then the syndaemon works. I believe it needs these steps only once. You can activate the feature after above steps by clicking /root/Startup/disable_touchpad_writing. It should work with subsequent reboots automatically after these prochedures.
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Jun 2011, 16:18    Post subject:  

pemasu wrote:
Jim3630. Thank you of your initial report. Good to hear that we are back on the basics.

About touchpad disabling when writing feature. I noticed that syndaemon does not work before you have clicked the Flsynclient launcher in Menu, get the message about restarting X, restart X accordingly and then the syndaemon works. I believe it needs these steps only once. You can activate the feature after above steps by clicking /root/Startup/disable_touchpad_writing. It should work with subsequent reboots automatically after these prochedures.


pemasu, had done the Flsynclient launcher and now after clicking /root/Startup/disable_touchpad_writing rebooted and it works! Yes! Have lost much work before so I usually disable my touchpad. Now have a better solution.

pemasu and CoronelN thank you.

One issue, no one IIRC has mentioned is duel monitors. connected to a large screen from this HP the display looks good up to 1900x900 but the lap top display is not filled. Looks like a box shape on the display. This only happens in Ice Puppy even if the resolution is 1080x780. In Snow Puppy both lap top and big screen displays fill the screen area.

Wonder why in ip and not sp?

Wolf is not in the repos any reason why or just oversight? thanks again jim
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Jun 2011, 16:41    Post subject:  

Jim3630. What graphics driver do you use ?
What is that wolf which should be in the repos ?

EDIT. If you mean woof repo, there is good reason. Read Barrys blog. There isnt woof repo anymore. So I dont include it. Lol.
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Jun 2011, 17:08    Post subject:  

pemasu wrote:
Jim3630. What graphics driver do you use ?
What is that wolf which should be in the repos ?

EDIT. If you mean woof repo, there is good reason. Read Barrys blog. There isnt woof repo anymore. So I dont include it. Lol.


ha ha, only read his blog couple times will check it out.


Thu 9 Jun 2011 Operating System: Ice Puppy-014 Linux 2.6.38
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
oem: Intel(R)Ironlake Mobile Graphics Chipset Accelerated VGA BIOS product: Intel(R)Ironlake Mobile Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0

X Server: Xorg Driver: unknown
X.Org version: 1.7.6
dimensions: 1024x768 pixels (270x203 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) IGDNG_M GEM 20091221 2009Q4 x86/MMX/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 7.7.1
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Jun 2011, 19:05    Post subject:  

pemasu wrote:
Lobster. I believe that core2 optimization is not for every older processors good choice. AMD Sempron has been problematic before.

Appreciate that, so was surprised it ran at all.
After the initial save (another thing I forgot to mention was the DVD kept spinning for no reason) the problems including the DVD spinning all stopped
AND I was able to use 013, browser, xchat etc succesfully

Quote:
Man. I wish the evenings and spare time would be longer. Cant you loan hours from future months or clone yourself to do three things same time.

Not yet.
An interesting question would be: If the neurological brain was uploaded temporarily to a computer storage facility and then added to 3 clones, would you be in 3 places at once? How cool would that be?

OK have downloaded 014
running ok - no probs setting up
GonGetIt - where, what is that?
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Fri 10 Jun 2011 Operating System: Ice Puppy-014 Linux 2.6.38
0.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV710 [Radeon HD 4350]
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS product: RV710 01.00

X Server: Xorg Driver: radeon
X.Org version: 1.7.6
dimensions: 1024x768 pixels (338x270 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
OpenGL vendor string: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R600 (RV710 954F) 20090101 x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE2 TCL
OpenGL version string: 1.5 Mesa 7.7.1

AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+
Core 0: 2593 1: 2593 MHz

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PostPosted: Fri 10 Jun 2011, 00:20    Post subject:  

jim3630 wrote:
... added sea monkey21rcl, google earth 6.03.217, celestia 160, all work as expected ...
@Jim3630 did you get the PETs from these from the PPM? I would like to repeat steps via Live media.

Thanks in advance

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PostPosted: Fri 10 Jun 2011, 01:07    Post subject: ICE14 Report  

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