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#46 Post by nooby »

myke thanks for that tip it says
# sensors-detect
# sensors-detect revision 5818 (2010-01-18 17:22:07 +0100)
# System: Acer Aspire one (laptop)

This program will help you determine which kernel modules you need
to load to use lm_sensors most effectively. It is generally safe
and recommended to accept the default answers to all questions,
unless you know what you're doing.

Some south bridges, CPUs or memory controllers contain embedded sensors.
Do you want to scan for them? This is totally safe. (YES/no): YES
Silicon Integrated Systems SIS5595... No
VIA VT82C686 Integrated Sensors... No
VIA VT8231 Integrated Sensors... No
AMD K8 thermal sensors... No
AMD Family 10h thermal sensors... No
AMD Family 11h thermal sensors... No
Intel Core family thermal sensor... No
Intel Atom thermal sensor... Success!
(driver `coretemp')
Intel AMB FB-DIMM thermal sensor... No
VIA C7 thermal sensor... No
VIA Nano thermal sensor... No

Some Super I/O chips contain embedded sensors. We have to write to
standard I/O ports to probe them. This is usually safe.
Do you want to scan for Super I/O sensors? (YES/no):
So it show I need Intel Atom thermal sensor... Success!
(driver `coretemp')

what happens if I continue that q and a?


I stopped at this one :
Lastly, we can probe the I2C/SMBus adapters for connected hardware
monitoring devices. This is the most risky part, and while it works
reasonably well on most systems, it has been reported to cause trouble
on some systems.
Do you want to probe the I2C/SMBus adapters now? (YES/no):
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

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#47 Post by pemasu »

James C. About useless for me also. But someone has shown interest for it and in this testing phase it is easy to made one build with highmem and PAE enabled.

I could do one build with real time rt latency enabled also for musicians, lol. Like in Puppy Studio.

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#48 Post by James C »

pemasu wrote:James C. About useless for me also. But someone has shown interest for it and in this testing phase it is easy to made one build with highmem and PAE enabled.

I could do one build with real time rt latency enabled also for musicians, lol. Like in Puppy Studio.
I do have an AMD quad-core with lots of ram running the evil Windows 7 Ultimate. Probably run it on that box from a multi-session DVD and try it out.
You know I'll have to test it.

Probably keep it away from the boxes with 256 mb of ram though... :lol:

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#49 Post by pemasu »

IcePuppy-003 has been released. See the first post.

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#50 Post by James C »

Ice Puppy 003 on multi-session DVD......AMD quad-core w/4 gb of ram.
Everything is working on boot.

-Computer-
Processor : 4x AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 620 Processor
Memory : 2854MB (196MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.00
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Thu 21 Apr 2011 02:49:59 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1366x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Software Rasterizer
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia


-Version-
Kernel : Linux 2.6.38.2 (i686)
Compiled : #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Apr 21 19:18:06 EEST 2011
C Library : GNU C Library version 2.11.1 (stable)
Default C Compiler : Unknown
Distribution : Puppy Linux 0.00
-Current Session-
Computer Name : puppypc
User Name : root (root)
Home Directory : /root
Desktop Environment : Unknown (Window Manager: JWM)
-
sh-4.1# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 2854512 625088 2229424 0 70400
Swap: 0 0 0
Total: 2854512 625088 2229424
sh-4.1#


I know it's got 4 gb of ram cause I built it myself... :lol:

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#51 Post by pemasu »

James C. I know. 486 cpu option with highmem dont work. 486 disabled my highmem selection and dropped it to the 4 gb option. I just didnt notice it when I went through kernel parameters with make menuconfig.
I made new compile with intel atom + highmem + PAE. I will upload it tomorrow.
But Ice Puppy-003 is now useful for most cpus.

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#52 Post by James C »

pemasu wrote:James C. I know. 486 cpu option with highmem dont work. 486 disabled my highmem selection and dropped it to the 4 gb option. I just didnt notice it when I went through kernel parameters with make menuconfig.
I made new compile with intel atom + highmem + PAE. I will upload it tomorrow.
But Ice Puppy-003 is now useful for most cpus.
Everything else was working fine.Sound,internet and even the 1366x768 resolution were good on initial boot.

I'm one of those who, if I'm worried about using all the ram over 3 gb, will just use a 64 bit os.But, if you build it I'll test it.... :lol:

Just for informational purposes, this box actually runs Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit and XP Pro 32 bit........ Xp uses less resources and runs much cooler.

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Ice Puppy-003 RHE release (Really Highly Experimental)

#53 Post by Billtoo »

Here's icepup03 on my hp desktop.

From hardinfo in icepup 03:

Summary
Computer
Processor 6x AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1045T Processor
Memory 3374MB (132MB used)
Operating System Puppy Linux 0.00
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Thu 21 Apr 2011 04:01:38 PM EDT
Operating System
Version
Kernel Linux 2.6.38.2 (i686)
Compiled #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Apr 21 19:18:06 EEST 2011
C Library GNU C Library version 2.11.1 (stable)
Default C Compiler Unknown
Distribution Puppy Linux 0.00

From hardinfo in fatdog 64:

Summary
Computer
Processor 6x AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1045T Processor
Memory 8186MB (653MB used)
Operating System Puppy Linux 0.50
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Mon 21 Feb 2011 04:24:44 PM GMT+5
Operating System
Version
Kernel Linux 2.6.35.7 (x86_64)
Compiled #1 SMP Tue Nov 9 00:23:48 GMT+5 2010
C Library GNU C Library version 2.11.1 (stable)
Distribution Puppy Linux 0.50

Will try icepup04 when it's posted.

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#54 Post by pemasu »

James C and Billtoo. Thank you of your reports. I am already uploading Ice Puppy-004. It is compiled with Intel Atom optimization + highmem + PAE. James C and Billtoo should get better ram results with that version.
I would say Ice Puppy-004 is quite responsive. Posting from it.

I will post when it is uploaded.

About 64 bit Puppy OS. Kirk has done outstanding job with it together with Jamesbond. I cant compare my job with their work.

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#55 Post by pemasu »

Ice Puppy-004 has been released. It has cpu optimization for Intel Atom + highmem 64 Gb + PAE. Otherwise it is the same as Ice Puppy-003 build.
Keucr and acerhdf are included.

gcmartin

Tested IcePuppy-003 and attaching performance findings

#56 Post by gcmartin »

Happy to report performance improvement on a 32bit laptop without 4GB using ICEPUP-003. See reports attached

Hope this helps
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Performance-reports.tar.gz
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#57 Post by p310don »

my 3 main pc's are an eeepc with an atom processor, and media pc with an nvidia ion atom based pc, and an amd with 4gig ram.....

Pemasu, did you make this especially just for me? Seems like it. Downloading now. Will (hopefully) heap lots of thanks and praise soon :)

gcmartin

Bug repair

#58 Post by gcmartin »

Theie is a bug report of a phenomenon afftecting ROXfiler. It affects the GUI performance and is evident when the system's hostname does NOT match the contents of the /etc/hosts file.

Shinobar's "FirstRUN" was suppose to be updated (I thought) such that when a user sets the hostname it also sets the /etc/hosts file correctly.

ICEPUP-003 does not have the fix in the system. It is NOT a show stopper, but it does affect the file manager performance. It was fixed within the last couple months and most PUP distros have adopted it.

Hope this helps
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#59 Post by James C »

Ice Pup 004..... same hardware as above.(Don't feel like adding any ram at the moment :) )

-Computer-
Processor : 4x AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 620 Processor
Memory : 3884MB (189MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.00
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Thu 21 Apr 2011 06:23:45 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1366x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Software Rasterizer
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia

# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 3884608 619612 3264996 0 70728
Swap: 0 0 0
Total: 3884608 619612 3264996
#

I'll try to do some comparison testing with 003 and 004 on some more typical Puppy hardware over the weekend.Forecast is for lots of rain and storms so I should have some free time.
Last edited by James C on Thu 21 Apr 2011, 23:33, edited 1 time in total.

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IcePuppy-003 and 004 RHE release Really Highly Experimental

#60 Post by Billtoo »

From hardinfo in icepup 03:

Summary
Computer
Processor 6x AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1045T Processor
Memory 3374MB (132MB used)
Operating System Puppy Linux 0.00
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Thu 21 Apr 2011 04:01:38 PM EDT
Operating System
Version
Kernel Linux 2.6.38.2 (i686)
Compiled #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Apr 21 19:18:06 EEST 2011
C Library GNU C Library version 2.11.1 (stable)
Default C Compiler Unknown
Distribution Puppy Linux 0.00

From hardinfo in fatdog 64:

Summary
Computer
Processor 6x AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1045T Processor
Memory 8186MB (653MB used)
Operating System Puppy Linux 0.50
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Mon 21 Feb 2011 04:24:44 PM GMT+5
Operating System
Version
Kernel Linux 2.6.35.7 (x86_64)
Compiled #1 SMP Tue Nov 9 00:23:48 GMT+5 2010
C Library GNU C Library version 2.11.1 (stable)
Distribution Puppy Linux 0.50

From hardinfo in icepup 04:

Summary
Computer
Processor 6x AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1045T Processor
Memory 8310MB (147MB used)
Operating System Puppy Linux 0.00
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Thu 21 Apr 2011 07:08:26 PM EDT
Operating System
Version
Kernel Linux 2.6.38.2 (i686)
Compiled #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Apr 21 22:44:43 GMT-8 2011
C Library GNU C Library version 2.11.1 (stable)
Default C Compiler Unknown
Distribution Puppy Linux 0.00

It sees all the ram in 04.

BTW..Snowpuppy 016 works great, lots of choices for applications and I like being able to increase the size of the save file by up to 8gb in one reboot.

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#61 Post by p310don »

hmmm, bug?

In quickpet, not much is working - at all. Will try again later.

gcmartin

Testing IcePuppy-003

#62 Post by gcmartin »

Problem
IcePuppy-003 System is not registering all of memory on 4GB system. Same problem as other 32bit PUPs without PAE support. See memory iin the attached report

Hope this helps.
Attachments
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Re: Testing IcePuppy-003

#63 Post by James C »

gcmartin wrote:Problem
IcePuppy-003 System is not registering all of memory on 4GB system. Same problem as other 32bit PUPs without PAE support. See memory iin the attached report

Hope this helps.
If you had taken the time to read a few posts a bit earlier in the thread
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 707#515707

it would have been obvious that highmem didn't work in 003.

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IcePuppy-003 and 004 RHE release Really Highly Experimental

#64 Post by Billtoo »

Here's a frugal install of icepup04 on my acer desktop.

Summary
Computer
Processor 4x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
Memory 8310MB (188MB used)
Operating System Puppy Linux 0.00
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Thu 21 Apr 2011 08:08:27 PM EDT
Operating System
Version
Kernel Linux 2.6.38.2 (i686)
Compiled #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Apr 21 22:44:43 GMT-8 2011
C Library GNU C Library version 2.11.1 (stable)
Default C Compiler GNU C Compiler version 4.4.3 (Ubuntu 4.4.3-4ubuntu5)
Distribution Puppy Linux 0.00

I can't install the proprietary video driver on this pc or the hp
without the kernelsources.sfs but it's no big deal if it's a lot of
work to provide it.I have snowpuppy 16 on both computers and can use
that, also several other pups and dogs :)

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#65 Post by James C »

Ice Puppy 004 live pfix=ram on the main Linux box.Everything working on initial boot, internet,sound and display.

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1034MB (182MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.00
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Thu 21 Apr 2011 08:33:23 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Software Rasterizer
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235


# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 1034492 600832 433660 0 69392
Swap: 1228936 0 1228936
Total: 2263428 600832 1662596

sh-4.1# glxgears
427 frames in 5.0 seconds
464 frames in 5.0 seconds
452 frames in 5.0 seconds
338 frames in 5.0 seconds

I'll try 003(non PAE) in a few to compare.

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