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#31 Post by nooby »

Smokey thanks for the server you have that let so many people upload iso for us to download. A real service.

Not criticism but you are a Seamonkey fan. You and Barry and a handful more.

Wow I am happy that at least Pemasu allow us to have a distro that have FireFox. So happy withj FF.

Pemasu now when you have a Snow16 with latest kernel and Ice Puppy what sort of differences will you put into that name then?
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Newer version of mhwaveedit

#32 Post by don570 »

Why don't you use a newer version of mhwaveedit.?

It can be compiled to open a specific audio mixer such as retrovol.
I did this and stripped it to make it smaller.
I made a pet package. It has a configuration file to eliminate the previous configuration.
Available
http://www.filedropper.com/mhwaveedit-stripped-1420

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#33 Post by pemasu »

Don570. Thank you of feedback. I downloaded your pet. I will update mhwaveedit now that I know there is newer version. I dont use it myself, so I have been blind of newer offering.

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#34 Post by pemasu »

About thermal information. I have been really dumb. proc/acpi does not handle thermal information and fan control anymore.
Thermal sysfs handles that under /sys/* devices and files.

cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp gives me core temperature nicely. Acpitool and from Menu > Hardinfo just dont handle the information anymore.

Howto control the fan through scripts and howto get gui core temp info, I dont know yet, but now I know that my compiles were not wrong, I just tried to get information using wrong tools.

I have nice working kernel. Well, this one is not for everyone. It is optimized for dual core newer processors and highmem and PAE is enabled.
So this one is again RHE build.
Of course if someone has quite new laptop or desktop, this could be useful.
I can upload this one as RHE PAE version. But I wont support that build in anyway. Build will be: You can download it - use it - brake it - but no support sorry - you are on your own.

I know that gcmartin has wanted to get his hands on build like this.
So comments about uploading.

I will make sameway allround usage build as in snow puppies for laptops in mind with better support for atom processors also.

Of course one build for P4 optimization is also possible. You never know......

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#35 Post by pemasu »

About thermal info again. Lm-sensors, libsensors, makedev and xsensors packages from ubuntu repo together provide gui info of cpu core temperature.
You can also get the cpu temp info with console: #sensors

So I am going to include them to the next build.

I made pet of those packages. It installs under System.
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PupShutdown

#36 Post by don570 »

I wrote about PupShutdown in Snow Puppy
You might find this interesting.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 386#515386


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#37 Post by nooby »

pemasu thanks for the link. I will use it tomorrow but I did this one now
cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp
and it says 26800 which is 27 degree Celsius is that realistic for an Atom N270?

Acer D255 has a N470 and that one holds some 45 to 55 degrees or so.

Does one have to reboot? it installed on Snow513 and on Snow 16 and on Lupu 525 but it only produce a kind of obelisk and not values to look at? Okay I should go to bed now :) same ! exclamation mark that one had to expand but to now use :) I guess it only works on Ice then.

If I re-size it then it show a white screen saying it is xsensors0.7 but no info to look at
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#38 Post by pemasu »

Nooby. Why not if you dont do anything processor demanding. Try to watch video for example and check if the temp rises.
I get huge temps when I compile with quad cores full speed. Up to 75 c.

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#39 Post by pemasu »

In that first build maybe thermal sysfs and hwmon was not enabled in the kernel compilation.

Well, I probably upload newest build soon. Then that pet works, but it is included to the build though.

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#40 Post by Ray MK »

Hi

This may be of interest for CPUtemp readout.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=57480

Have used it in SnowPup-016
and in other 4.xx and 5.xx puppy's

it works very well.

HTH - very best regards - Ray

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Temperature

#41 Post by myke »

Pemasu, I did some searching on the internet and found a procedure in Ubuntu to determine how temperature is controlled for a computer. For the model named below (AAO D255E), it turned out using the commands in Ubuntu:

sensors-detect
sensors

that the module coretemp reports the temperature of the CPU. I was able to get Ubuntu to load the module automatically at start-up. I don't know how the Ubuntu Operating System uses the information to activate the fan.

On further searching, if the above sensors pet is installed, should compile and install psensors - the ultimate graphic sensor monitoring tool. I will try and report back.

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#42 Post by pemasu »

Myke. That Lm-sensors deb and libsensors deb includes sensors and sensors-detect binaries. And they work.
In kernel thermal sysfs and hwmon must be enabled and that was tricky.
If I had thermal sysfs included as static, not as module, there wasnt option for hwmon choice. And also AAO acerhdf wasnt shown under X86 menu entry.
When I enabled thermal sysfs as module I got both those other choices and that enables lm-sensors usage also.
But acpitool or from menu Hardinfo dont show temp info anymore.
Well, at Easter I have more time play with latest build and test it.

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#43 Post by pemasu »

Myke. Xsensor gives also graphical info. I downloaded that psensor package and compiled it. Thank you of the tip.
I will test it. and post also the pet or include it to the next Ice Puppy straight.
It looks like Ice Puppy-002 does not have relevant kernel modules compiled in, so ppl have to wait next Ice Puppy before testing.
I have now highmem and PAE compiled in. It means that 4 Gb ram is shown as that and Ice Puppy also supports ram more than 4 Gb. Side effects. It will use ram about 20 mb more than without it.
This probably will not be the last one. It is just for testing and for those who want Puppy to recognize 4 gb or more ram as it is.
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#44 Post by James C »

Still running a frugal install on the old P4 test box, no problems.Seems pretty stable.

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#45 Post by James C »

pemasu wrote: I have now highmem and PAE compiled in. It means that 4 Gb ram is shown as that and Ice Puppy also supports ram more than 4 Gb. Side effects. It will use ram about 20 mb more than without it.
This probably will not be the last one. It is just for testing and for those who want Puppy to recognize 4 gb or more ram as it is.
Guess I'll need to stick more ram in the old P4 box. :)

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#46 Post by nooby »

myke thanks for that tip it says
# sensors-detect
# sensors-detect revision 5818 (2010-01-18 17:22:07 +0100)
# System: Acer Aspire one (laptop)

This program will help you determine which kernel modules you need
to load to use lm_sensors most effectively. It is generally safe
and recommended to accept the default answers to all questions,
unless you know what you're doing.

Some south bridges, CPUs or memory controllers contain embedded sensors.
Do you want to scan for them? This is totally safe. (YES/no): YES
Silicon Integrated Systems SIS5595... No
VIA VT82C686 Integrated Sensors... No
VIA VT8231 Integrated Sensors... No
AMD K8 thermal sensors... No
AMD Family 10h thermal sensors... No
AMD Family 11h thermal sensors... No
Intel Core family thermal sensor... No
Intel Atom thermal sensor... Success!
(driver `coretemp')
Intel AMB FB-DIMM thermal sensor... No
VIA C7 thermal sensor... No
VIA Nano thermal sensor... No

Some Super I/O chips contain embedded sensors. We have to write to
standard I/O ports to probe them. This is usually safe.
Do you want to scan for Super I/O sensors? (YES/no):
So it show I need Intel Atom thermal sensor... Success!
(driver `coretemp')

what happens if I continue that q and a?


I stopped at this one :
Lastly, we can probe the I2C/SMBus adapters for connected hardware
monitoring devices. This is the most risky part, and while it works
reasonably well on most systems, it has been reported to cause trouble
on some systems.
Do you want to probe the I2C/SMBus adapters now? (YES/no):
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#47 Post by pemasu »

James C. About useless for me also. But someone has shown interest for it and in this testing phase it is easy to made one build with highmem and PAE enabled.

I could do one build with real time rt latency enabled also for musicians, lol. Like in Puppy Studio.

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#48 Post by James C »

pemasu wrote:James C. About useless for me also. But someone has shown interest for it and in this testing phase it is easy to made one build with highmem and PAE enabled.

I could do one build with real time rt latency enabled also for musicians, lol. Like in Puppy Studio.
I do have an AMD quad-core with lots of ram running the evil Windows 7 Ultimate. Probably run it on that box from a multi-session DVD and try it out.
You know I'll have to test it.

Probably keep it away from the boxes with 256 mb of ram though... :lol:

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#49 Post by pemasu »

IcePuppy-003 has been released. See the first post.

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#50 Post by James C »

Ice Puppy 003 on multi-session DVD......AMD quad-core w/4 gb of ram.
Everything is working on boot.

-Computer-
Processor : 4x AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 620 Processor
Memory : 2854MB (196MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.00
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Thu 21 Apr 2011 02:49:59 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1366x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Software Rasterizer
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia


-Version-
Kernel : Linux 2.6.38.2 (i686)
Compiled : #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Apr 21 19:18:06 EEST 2011
C Library : GNU C Library version 2.11.1 (stable)
Default C Compiler : Unknown
Distribution : Puppy Linux 0.00
-Current Session-
Computer Name : puppypc
User Name : root (root)
Home Directory : /root
Desktop Environment : Unknown (Window Manager: JWM)
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sh-4.1# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 2854512 625088 2229424 0 70400
Swap: 0 0 0
Total: 2854512 625088 2229424
sh-4.1#


I know it's got 4 gb of ram cause I built it myself... :lol:

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