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#61 Post by big_bass »

This is a snippet of what I use
for decompressing debs and making a folder

a side note
#all official slackware package tools I have working and many other package making tools if some day you decide to use them they are packaged for easy installation


you need this little wrapper

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#!/bin/sh
#script name undeb
exec dpkg-deb -x "$@" .
Joe

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cd `dirname "$@"`
#-----------
#.deb	
#-----------
if echo `basename "$@"` | grep -q '.deb$'; then
Xdialog --wrap --title "DEB" \
        --yesno "Do you want to decompress  $@ and make a new folder " 0 0

case $? in
  0)
    echo "Yes chosen."
	mkdir -p `basename "$@" .deb`
    cp `basename "$@"` `basename "$@" .deb`
    cd `basename "$@" .deb`       
    undeb `basename "$@"`
    rm `basename "$@"` .deb
	;;
  1)
    echo "No chosen."
    exit
	;;
  255)
    echo "Box closed."
    exit
	;;

esac
fi

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#62 Post by big_bass »

hey Mick
I really want to draw on peoples strengths. Here's a thought I had. Joe (big_bass ) seriously dislikes the woof build system. That's fine by me. He likes the set standards and working to them and in some ways I tend to agree
well the point here is because I placed value
using official tools for package management
woof was not needed by me to build with
pkgtool installs the packages directly without
having to pre convert the packages first
cutting out the middle man

I am on a different road but your a good guy Mick
have fun in all that you do


Joe

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#63 Post by scsijon »

a link or two and a thought

Link1 is titled : 'Puppy Linux 530 and beyond Wishlist'
URL is:http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=62618

Link2 is entitled: 'ThreadGet'
URL is:http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=62236

thought: I wonder if it's time puppy had Wine built in as part of it's standard packageset? I'm pretty sure green_dome would be willing to work on that bit if asked. http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=53675[/url]

and lastly before I forget http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=32183

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#64 Post by Jim1911 »

scsijon wrote:thought: I wonder if it's time puppy had Wine built in as part of it's standard packageset? I'm pretty sure green_dome would be willing to work on that bit if asked. http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=53675[/url]
LHP already includes Wine, Fatdog also has an option to install it. Green_dome's Wine versions for pup are kept up-to-date and they work on all pups that I've tried. IMO, it would be better to have an installer like Quickpet or an enhanced PPM that includes Wine for optional installation. Although, I use it daily, not everyone wants or needs to use Windows software.

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#65 Post by morgonzola »

well if this is a slackware based distro, Installing Debian packages should be removed, since many of them won't work, a few will, Its just a bad practice to install debian packages on a slackware base and should be Outlawed yes I said Outlawed. But of course automatically sending .deb packages to archiver for extraction purposes only does make sense.
Just my point of view.
ttuuxxx
well if i may throw in my two cents, wouldn't it be more efficient/more user friendly to just make a little script that lets you pick between xarchive and deb2pet and just add the deb2pet script in the distro? i dont think its all that large and due to lupu people (like me :) ) have been getting used to deb packages.

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Re: spup 'icon'

#66 Post by tubeguy »

scsijon wrote:@tubeguy, personally what i'd to see happen (please):

1/ get rid of the pipe (anti-smoking legislation and all that stuff does include pipes in australia), really don't think puppy (and barry as it's public officer) needs those hastles;

2/ put a 'cloud' symbol above spup and have the version number appear in it (?could this be done as part of the loading or running rather than have to be manually recreated for each version), don't know the number of times i've had to search to find which one i'm using at that time when testing and found i'm testing on an old one;

3/ allow users to 'do' the background colour themselves (if possible) from a full colourset;

and

4/ Make it suitable to be the background image as well as spup 'icon'.

just my thoughts

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Here's this. The eye is transparent so will pick up whatever background the graphic is on.

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2000x1000 PNG 500K http://tubeguy.org/puppybg/puppy_linux_ ... 0x1000.png

2000x1000 PSD 5M http://tubeguy.org/puppybg/puppy_linux_ ... 0x1000.psd

Image

2000x1000 PNG 500K http://tubeguy.org/puppybg/puppy_linux_ ... 0x1000.png

2000x1000 PSD 5M http://tubeguy.org/puppybg/puppy_linux_ ... 0x1000.psd
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#67 Post by scsijon »

very nice tubeguy and on the mark,

however I was thinking about the alpha and beta release numbers and was wondering if the release number from the sfs filename could be stripped and displayed in the cloud? Means mick doesn't have to get a new one from you for each test release.

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#68 Post by tubeguy »

scsijon wrote:very nice tubeguy and on the mark,

however I was thinking about the alpha and beta release numbers and was wondering if the release number from the sfs filename could be stripped and displayed in the cloud? Means mick doesn't have to get a new one from you for each test release.

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Not sure how that would be done. :?
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#69 Post by ttuuxxx »

simple just have another cloud next to the 5.3 with alpha1, alpha2, beta1, beta2, rc1,rc2 etc and the name 5.3-A1 5.3-B1 5.3-Rc1 etc etc
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#70 Post by tubeguy »

ttuuxxx wrote:simple just have another cloud next to the 5.3 with alpha1, alpha2, beta1, beta2, rc1,rc2 etc and the name 5.3-A1 5.3-B1 5.3-Rc1 etc etc
ttuuxxx
OK bear with me here, sometimes the most obvious things go right over my head.

It's a graphic, a static file. Are we talking about a bunch of separate graphics, and a particular one would be displayed based on the system version number?

Also, is this going to be a boot image? If so I would want to optimize it before conversion to lss16.
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#71 Post by ttuuxxx »

naa that wouldn't work as a boot log, too many colours, it only handles 16,shades/colours but this will :)
messed around with gimp and the image and puppy's default image.

after just open it with mtpaint and save it as lss16 and then rename it from logo.lss to logo.16 and your done.
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#72 Post by Béèm »

In the mtpaint 3.34.63 in spup I don't see that one can save to lss16.
Do I miss something?
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#73 Post by zigbert »

What about leting us non-engineers understand the xorgwizard.

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gtkdialog-code in /usr/sbin/xorg-setup in the Puppy-5.2.5 iso.

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MAIN1="
<wtitle>Xorg Video Wizard</wtitle>
 <vbox>
  <notebook labels=\"Screen configuration|Advanced\">
   <vbox>
  <frame XorgWizard>
   <text><label>\"Run the xorgwizard to set your screen settings.
This can only be done in text-mode.
Please follow instructions.\"</label></text>
   <hbox> 
    <button>
     <input file>/usr/local/lib/X11/mini-icons/wizard16.xpm</input>
     <label>Continue...</label>
     <action>EXIT:11</action>
    </button>
    </hbox>
   </frame>
  <frame External screen>
   <text><label>\"If you use an external screen on your laptop, it's recommended to install a more advanced driver for your specific graphic card. Test your card and download driver from QuickPet (Drivers tab).\"</label></text>
   <hbox> 
    <button>
     <input file stock=\"gtk-yes\"></input>
     <label>QuickPet</label>
     <action>quickpet &</action>
    </button>
    </hbox>
   </frame>
  </vbox>


  <vbox>
  <frame Edit xorg.conf>
   <hbox>
    <text><label>You can manually edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but note that you will need to exit from X afterward then restart X (see Shutdown menu). Click button to edit:</label></text>
    <vbox>
     <button>
      <input file>/usr/local/lib/X11/mini-icons/mini-x.xpm</input>
      <action>EXIT:15</action>
     </button>
    </vbox>
   </hbox>
  </frame>

  <frame xvidtune>
   <hbox>
    <text><label>If the screen is displaced or the width/height are wrong, xvidtune can get it right. This will modify the existing xorg.conf file. Use with caution:</label></text>
    <vbox>
     <button>
      <input file>/usr/local/lib/X11/mini-icons/mini-x.xpm</input>
      <action>EXIT:13</action>
     </button>
    </vbox>
   </hbox>
  </frame>

  <frame Mouse/keyboard Wizard>
   <hbox>
    <text><label>/etc/X11/xorg.conf has generic settings for mouse and keyboard and in most cases it is recommended to leave it as-is. Instead, use the MouseKeyboardWizard:</label></text>
    <vbox>
     <button>
      <input file>/usr/local/lib/X11/mini-icons/wizard16.xpm</input>
      <action>EXIT:16</action>
     </button>
    </vbox>
   </hbox>
  </frame>

  <frame Monitor gamma calibration>
   <hbox>
    <text><label>This will adjust the monitor colors, including screen brightness.</label></text>
    <vbox>
     <button>
      <input file>/usr/local/lib/X11/mini-icons/mini-x.xpm</input>
      <action>EXIT:17</action>
     </button>
    </vbox>
   </hbox>
  </frame>

  <frame Resolution changer>
   <hbox>
    <text><label>It is possible to change screen resolutions without exiting from X:</label></text>
    <vbox>
     <button>
      <input file>/usr/local/lib/X11/mini-icons/mini-x.xpm</input>
      <action>EXIT:18</action>
     </button>
    </vbox>
   </hbox>
  </frame>
  </vbox>
  </notebook>

 </vbox>
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#74 Post by mickee »

Lobster wrote: another promo video
http://youtu.be/lQRfgrbT7lY
Cool videos Lobster
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#75 Post by Aitch »

Bug fixing/tracking.....

Is it POSSIBLE to at least devise a list, if not a small database, of

1/ bugs,
2/ pending/fixed status, and
3/ whether the fix is a patch,
4/ modifying some code,
5/ an addition, or whatever,
6/ how many testers have checked, and
7/ if any new errors arise, etc, and
8/ whether finally signed off, or not

Shouldn't this be more important than we seem to keep making it, as I absolutely fail to understand why ANY new version of Puppy is needed IF the old ones aren't finally FIXED!

And PLEASE no more 200 page threads needing analyzing to find the bugfixes

WE CAN do it BETTER!

Aitch :)

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#76 Post by ttuuxxx »

Béèm wrote:In the mtpaint 3.34.63 in spup I don't see that one can save to lss16.
Do I miss something?
in mtpaint.3.34.64 in Wary you can and also older versions like the one in 2.14X. Maybe Spup is missing a dep for that, probably not but just a guess. Or try the wary mtpaint that works, should probably work on all puppies http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/pet_pa ... .64-w5.pet
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#77 Post by ttuuxxx »

Aitch wrote:Bug fixing/tracking.....
I absolutely fail to understand why ANY new version of Puppy is needed IF the old ones aren't finally FIXED!

And PLEASE no more 200 page threads needing analyzing to find the bugfixes

WE CAN do it BETTER!

Aitch :)
The reason why is well its like this Mozilla, Gnome and a few other heavy hitters like to use the latest glibC and Gcc etc which will stop a lot of older versions from working with things like Firefox from mozilla that autoupdates :) Or things like newer motherboards/wifi that need newer kernels. etc and What you don't like the 2.14 200+page thread, I think its a modern day marvel. lol
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#78 Post by MinHundHettePerro »

Lobster wrote:Also joined the announce list at Slackware, so should know when 13.37 is available
http://www.slackware.com/lists/
'Tis out - so, you may de-join the list now ...

Anyway, last weeks current was rather OK ...

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#79 Post by Béèm »

ttuuxxx wrote:
Béèm wrote:In the mtpaint 3.34.63 in spup I don't see that one can save to lss16.
Do I miss something?
in mtpaint.3.34.64 in Wary you can and also older versions like the one in 2.14X. Maybe Spup is missing a dep for that, probably not but just a guess. Or try the wary mtpaint that works, should probably work on all puppies http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/pet_pa ... .64-w5.pet
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#80 Post by ICPUG »

Aitch,

Your wish list re bugs etc. is never likely to happen with Puppy.

The development model chosen by the developers here is to have fun.

Your wish list imposes order and procedures to follow. That ain't fun so it will not happen.

Because Puppy is so good people get confused and think it is developed in the same manner as a company might develop stuff.

It isn't - I live with that.

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