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New kernel 2.6.38.4 for puppy/lupu/quirky/WOOF-BUILDER
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musher0


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PostPosted: Fri 08 Apr 2011, 20:21    Post subject:  

Hello, all.

Would this substitution work with other kernels? E.g., wary's kernel?
Thanks in advance.

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wuxiandianzi


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PostPosted: Fri 08 Apr 2011, 20:32    Post subject: musher0  

re musher0:

yes....... for all puppylinux version(4.3 4.31 4.32 quirky lucid wary....)
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PostPosted: Fri 08 Apr 2011, 20:53    Post subject:  

Hi.

I understand that. I meant: Can the trick itself work, putting any kernel (not necessarily yours) under any puppy ?

Regards.

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PostPosted: Sat 09 Apr 2011, 01:17    Post subject:  

Hello, wuxiandianzi.

Just tested your kernel on dpup-484 (the older dpup-Lenny). It boots well but I have no sound, no access to eth0, and it will not fetch the dpupsave personal sfs file.

I will try possible solutions:
* you have a solution for the sound card on page 1.
* someone has suggested something for ethernet card.

As to the pupsave file:
* Should the pupsave file be
a) in xz format?
b) at the first level of the drive and not in a folder?

Finally, what do I do with the "pet" file you provided?
Where should I unpack it?
And when? In the puppy (in this case, dpup), after I am in it?
And then reboot?

Sorry if I sound ignorant, I am very new to using kernels directly.
Thank you in advance for any information. And of course thank you generally for this interesing idea.

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James C


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PostPosted: Sat 09 Apr 2011, 02:22    Post subject:  

I guess I'm old-school but I do this kind of stuff manually..... Laughing

I'm posting from Insidious 002 with the new 2.6.38.2 kernel.Internet,sound and display were all working correctly on the initial boot.

VGA compatible controller : Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller
Multimedia audio controller : Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER
Ethernet controller : Intel Corporation 82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet Controller

I like it when things work good from the start. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat 09 Apr 2011, 02:43    Post subject:  

Insidious 002 w/ 2.6.38.2 (pemasu's build) live pfix=ram in my main Linux box. Sound, internet and display all working on initial boot.

-Version-
Kernel : Linux 2.6.38.2 (i686)
Compiled : #1 SMP Thu Apr 7 23:53:52 EEST 2011
C Library : GNU C Library version 2.11.2 (stable)
Default C Compiler : Unknown
Distribution : Puppy Linux 0.00


Ethernet controller : Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+
Multimedia audio controller : VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio
VGA compatible controller : nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x]

I'll probably do a quick frugal install tomorrow.....I need some sleep.
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PostPosted: Sat 09 Apr 2011, 03:36    Post subject:  

Went ahead and did a manual frugal install on the first computer (Intel). Only problem, would not create a save file.Exited without saving.
Took a shortcut and copied an existing inpusave.3fs into the directory and it was detected on reboot. Everything appears to be working.
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Terryphi


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PostPosted: Sat 09 Apr 2011, 04:40    Post subject:  

Pemasu:

I have tested using the manual method and your kernel boots OK but there is no sound and it cannot find eth0 wired connection.

Here is card information:

02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 01)

Alsa gives this error:

modinfo: could not open /lib/modules/2.6.38.2/kernel/sound/core/snd.ko

Checking I see that there is no sound directory in /lib/modules/2.6.38.2/kernel.
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pemasu


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PostPosted: Sat 09 Apr 2011, 06:07    Post subject:  

Terryphi. About your rtl gigabit eth. There is kernel module rtl8169 only. I could not find kernel module with your specs.
I am now fixing my mother laptop. It will take couple of days I have time to check again kernel specs. It would help if you know the kernel module name which works with your eth aka rtl816?.

About sound. Lol. Maybe I have missed some base sound module. Sound worked out of box for me, so I thought it was ok and didnt much check the specs.
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PostPosted: Sat 09 Apr 2011, 09:58    Post subject:  

pemasu: Problem solved. The files from the 2 sfs files did not integrate properly so I did not have the necessary drivers, etc. I have now integrated them manually and sound and eth0 connection work. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat 09 Apr 2011, 10:10    Post subject:  

Terryphi. Great news. I suppose it is rtl8169 you are using ?
It sounds the compile is quite workable.

My kernel pet is organized as it is used with woof. To use it to update your existing puppy, I recommend to extract it and replace the needed files and folders. I am unfortunately woof builder so I havent tested manual replacing myself. I would use edit sfs app probably for replacing files and folders.

Kernel source sfs is done so that you can start to compile extra modules with it straight.
I have done make clean and make prepare already.

I have hyperthreading and support for multiprocessors also included. So newer i3, i5, i7, atom and pentium 4 machines have benefit with my kernel. Rfkill is also enabled, so you can shut your wireless if you want. Saves some battery also. Vgaswitcheroo was not enabled, cause i dont use it and it has some extra dependencies I havent tracked down for sure.

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PostPosted: Sat 09 Apr 2011, 10:37    Post subject:  

pemasu: I have been testing for the last hour with wuxiandianzi's kernel and Wary 511. I assume that the sfs file integration problem is common to both your kernels. I will test with yours later following the same procedure. What I say below may not apply to yours.

One odd thing I am seeing is in the Boot manager configuration. Loaded additional SFS files show as not loaded although they are present and work. Presumably this would make unloading them a problem!

Also, my webcam is not now found.
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PostPosted: Sat 09 Apr 2011, 11:01    Post subject:  

Ndiswrapper for my kernel compile. Just the kernel module. Svn trunk compiles just fine.
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wuxiandianzi


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PostPosted: Sun 10 Apr 2011, 05:19    Post subject: musher0  

musher0 wrote:
Hello, wuxiandianzi.

Just tested your kernel on dpup-484 (the older dpup-Lenny). It boots well but I have no sound, no access to eth0, and it will not fetch the dpupsave personal sfs file.

I will try possible solutions:
* you have a solution for the sound card on page 1.
* someone has suggested something for ethernet card.

As to the pupsave file:
* Should the pupsave file be
a) in xz format?
b) at the first level of the drive and not in a folder?

Finally, what do I do with the "pet" file you provided?
Where should I unpack it?
And when? In the puppy (in this case, dpup), after I am in it?
And then reboot?

Sorry if I sound ignorant, I am very new to using kernels directly.
Thank you in advance for any information. And of course thank you generally for this interesing idea.


re musher0 :
Hi ,thank you for testing
I have updated.
the pet file is used to build puppy by woof

the pupsave is 3fs/2fs format.

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PostPosted: Sun 10 Apr 2011, 05:22    Post subject: Re: thank you!  

Terryphi wrote:
wuxiandianzi wrote:


Thank you very much!
I find that only r8169 module drivers
you can try modprobe r8169.if though
I will compile r8168-8.022.00 driver, thank you!
I will re-upload soon


Thank you, wuxiandianzi .



Hi
I have compiled new kernel with r8168 driver.
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