Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

[maxerro]

Trying to access China servers is like The Forbidden Quest.

Why is there a second vmlinuz file in the /boot/ direcory in the kernel .pet?
Why is there a /boot/ directory in there at all?

I thought Beijing was GMT+8 ( not -8 )...
I'm sorry - 2many questions...

[wuxiandianzi]

[playdayz]

This seems very exciting. It could give Lucid a longer lifespan.

Like sszindian, I am wondering

Is everything working, including alsa? I have seen a couple of advantages mentioned concerning capabilities of the new kernel--are there more?

[playdayz]

[James C]

[playdayz]

[James C]

[nooby]

Newest kernel seems to ahve trouble with thermal and fan on Acer D250 but I know too little.

[Puppeteer]

Before everyone gets too excited about the new kernel, it may be worth paying attention to the apparent power consumption regression that seems to have been introduces in the mainline 2.6.38 kernel.

A growing number of users on a wide range of hardware and using different flavors of Linux are reporting increased power usage and hotter running temperatures. As a corollary, wake-ups per second are significantly higher as well.

Phoronix has run a benchmark and had a couple of reports about this lately. Over at Ubuntuforums, there are a number of people reporting significantly reduced battery life on laptops with Natty. A Canonical software engineer has apparently filed a bug report. Perhaps more bug reports will pop up after 11.04 is released next Thursday.

My point is that it may well be worth waiting for the version of the kernel where this regression has been fixed (2.6.38.xx or maybe even 2.6.39).

[James C]

[pemasu]

Puppeteer. I optimized 2.6.38.2 kernel with Ice Puppy-005 as much as I can for speed. I got 12-14 W power usage with it without doing any extra power saving procedures. I used Powertop to read results. In my experiment I got better power usage results than my previous Snow Puppies with 2.6.35.7 kernel.
I would not be concerned of power usage. About cpu consumption I cant say anything. Ice Puppy and also Snow Puppy loads more monitors and applications running in tray than basic distro so that it is irrelevant to compare them with base distro. Nevertheless, the power consumption was really low. I think I cant get it any better.

Do remember that these builds are not baseline kernels like used in Ubuntu builds. I believe these differ from them quite a lot. There are a lot new stuff in kernels to save battery consumption also. You just need to utilize them.
Kernels have hundreds of options. Just saying some kernel version do this or do that makes no point.

[pemasu]

About waiting next and better version. There comes all the time better and newer version...... I think waiting is for those who gets the distro in plate.

Barry Kauler abandoned 2.6.35.7 kernel due to its problems. With slight modification in kernel specs the same kernel is now in Snow Puppy and in Fluppy. It has even got extra drivers from forum members, because Puppies official versions are not compatible with all newer drivers, for example wireless drivers.

2.6.38 has support for some of them natively. I think it is good to test new kernels and when you get the specs right, freeze on to that and stop testing. Then it is time compile third party missing drivers. And start to use and build puppy distros with it.

I have only slight understanding for all those kernel specs rows. I think it would be good to have one professional kernel compiler in the ring to check the older specs and the newer ones announced with 2.6.38.
There are already many DOTconfig files to check around.

[sszindian]

James C:

I had no luck with sound on the 2.6.38.2 version of 525 that wuxiandianzi put up BUT... if you go to page 7 (this tread) go to the download site I listed there (be sure to check the included graphic I have there) you can get a 525 with the '2.6.38.3-2' kernel that wuxiandianzi redone.... that one works very nice and my sound did configure after alsa + tweeking the main alsa menu... had to manually click checks in the little boxes where it already showed volume was up (something like 75% in YELLOW. Before I tried putting the check-mark in the little box, sound didn't work, after the check-marks were entered, no problem with sound. I never had to do that on any previous puppy but... It Worked! The only thing I lost with the 525-2.6.38.3-2 was my webcam function that works like a charm in Official 525, everything else works just fine. NOTE: keep an eye on your CPU gauge, the new kernel seems to keep mine running 'HOT' until I restart X, then back to normal again... might just be my computer... I can't say?

>>>---Indian------>

PS: Tried your Spup with the 38 build, works nice but I still have the same problems I had with Mic's original 100... waiting that one out for a bit until I see where he's going with the 'Slack-thingy' Are you planning to put the Incidious002 with the new kernel on your new download site?

[wuxiandianzi]

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