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Q5sys


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PostPosted: Sat 05 Mar 2011, 11:12    Post_subject:  

Sylvander wrote:

5. "Mariner is a combo-pack of apps I find useful, tweaks for Lighthouse and some packages needed by other SFS add-ons"
I'm none the wiser.
That explanation is like: "Heat is an interaction between a system and its surroundings, due solely to the temperature difference between them."
Do you understand that?
It's the official definition of heat given when I was studying Thermo-dynamics.
It's like "rain" being the special name given to water that is in the process of falling from a cloud to the surface of planet Earth.


Actually I do understand that from University physics. Razz Anyway... Taz directed you to the LHPup site. On that site is this

You will see a listing of programs.. MESA, Thunderbird, XINE, etc. If you dont know what those are you can click on them and you'll be taken to each programs site.
Thats whats in the Mainer SFS.

As to what is an SFS, which Im assuming is your next question...
An SFS file is a file system 'in a can' so to speak if you've heard that analogy. If you're more curious about SFS files search the forum as there is a TON of information about them. In fact if you read TazOC's comments HERE and Jim1911's comments here in this thread alone you'll get a fair idea of what they are.

Does that help?

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PostPosted: Sat 05 Mar 2011, 15:54    Post_subject:  

Small problem with Mixer PCM volume slider which does not retain it's setting, it reverts to minimum setting on reboot. This is with KDE desktop, not tested other desktops.
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PostPosted: Sun 06 Mar 2011, 14:20    Post_subject:  

TazOC,
Does http://www.lhpup.org/sfs/503/VirtualBox-4.0.2-L1.sfs include the Guest additions?

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PostPosted: Sun 06 Mar 2011, 14:29    Post_subject:  

Jim1911 wrote:
Small problem with Mixer PCM volume slider which does not retain it's setting, it reverts to minimum setting on reboot. This is with KDE desktop, not tested other desktops.
Hi Jim,
KDE should restore the previous mixer levels when it starts but apparently something is muting the PCM. You might try pasting this into a terminal
Code:
echo -e '#!/bin/sh\nsleep 5\namixer set PCM 100% unmute' > ~/.kde/Autostart/amixer
chmod 755 ~/.kde/Autostart/amixer
and restart X. That creates a script in KDE's Autostart folder to force the PCM to 100%. You can then edit /Autostart/amixer with a text editor and change 100% to desired level, e.g., 70%.

If it doesn't work, try sleep 8 or open the same mixer in your screen shot and try
Code:
amixer set PCM,0 100% unmute
in a terminal, to see if the ',0' is needed.
Code:
amixer controls
will list the name of each slider. If PCM is named something else or there are more than one, use the full name of the slider in the script like this
Code:
amixer set PCM Playback Volume 100% unmute
Hope that helps,
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PostPosted: Sun 06 Mar 2011, 15:20    Post_subject: VBoxGuestAdditions_4.0.2  

Q5sys wrote:
TazOC,
Does http://www.lhpup.org/sfs/503/VirtualBox-4.0.2-L1.sfs include the Guest additions?
Yes, the extension pack and additions are in /opt/VirtualBox/additions
More at Mariner ISO 503 release notes.

The download page for v 4.0.2 is http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.0.2/ and I see there is an update for the guest additions there,
VBoxGuestAdditions_4.0.2-update-69551.iso as well as
VBoxGuestAdditions_4.0.2.iso which is the one in the SFS. The update is dated Jan 20, two days later than the original. I haven't tried either one.

The extensions can be installed/removed from VirtualBox Manager | File | Preferences | Extensions

The additions are installed by starting the Virtual Machine | Devices | Install Guest Additions
-TazOC

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PostPosted: Sun 06 Mar 2011, 17:08    Post_subject: personal save file resize issue  

I am not sure if this is an issue particular to me or if anyone else sees this.

I went to increase my save file size, and it did increase the actual file size but not the filesystem on the save file. I fixed this running e2fsck then resize2fs on the save file and the save file indicator is showing the appropriate information (as is the command df -h)

Other than that, I am extremely impressed with this!
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PostPosted: Sun 06 Mar 2011, 17:40    Post_subject:  

Sylvander wrote:
2. "try typing lhp video=640x480 at the boot menu"
That works, but only for that one time that the command is typed in.
Is there a way to make that permanent?
So there's no need to type it in every time?
That's a good question. I'm afraid it requires re-mastering the ISO, re-compiling the kernel, or installing GRUB (Menu | Setup | Puppy Universal Installer). I put video=800x600 on the kernel line in the isolinux.cfg file (in the /isolinux folder) of the ISOs. I wonder why sometimes that doesn't work? Confused I don't know enough about KMS and your display interface. Is 800x600 resolution not available on some machines? Does anyone know?
Sylvander wrote:
I run smm using a console.
And when I close the console...
Instead of it just closing down like in other Puppies [to close BOTH windows]...It asks me "are you sure?", which is a pain. I'd rather it just closed.
4. "in a terminal, type Ctrl+C and/or exit before closing the window"
That works OK, but both need the expense of more time and effort than in other Puppies. [Not good]
I think it means that Sakura doesn't kill smm without asking first. Which is a good idea, in case a process was started from Sakura that you didn't want stopped. So I would stop smm, then close Sakura. Or use another terminal in Lighthouse like lxterminal or rxvt, that doesn't ask before killing processes started from the terminal.
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5. "Mariner is a combo-pack of apps I find useful, tweaks for Lighthouse and some packages needed by other SFS add-ons"
I'm none the wiser.
I hope that the reply yesterday by Q5sys was helpful. Here is a diagram by Barry Kauler that helped me to visualize the Puppy Architecture:
  • RAM disk
  • the save file
  • main file
  • .sfs add-on files
http://lhpup.org/sfs/Architecture.htm
from http://puppylinux.com/development/howpuppyworks.html
(c)Copyright Barry Kauler 2005,2006 Puppy Linux http://www.puppylinux.com

I will remove the first link (excerpt page) in a day or two as Barry requested that we link, not insert. I will update it for LHP or ask him to provide a link to this section of the very long page where it is now.
-TazOC

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PostPosted: Sun 06 Mar 2011, 18:10    Post_subject: Re: personal save file resize issue  

bwh1969 wrote:
I am not sure if this is an issue particular to me or if anyone else sees this.

I went to increase my save file size, and it did increase the actual file size but not the filesystem on the save file. I fixed this running e2fsck then resize2fs on the save file and the save file indicator is showing the appropriate information (as is the command df -h)

Other than that, I am extremely impressed with this!
Thank you for trying Lighthouse. Yes, we have observed that bug. I have made several attempts to fix it. Fortunately the simple workaround is to boot with puppy pfix=fsck (or in Lighthouse just hit f at the boot menu) a good idea once in a while, even if the save file is properly sized. (This is listed on <F2> boot options menu and will autorun e2fsck and resize2fs as many other distros do by default.) It is not run by default in LHP or Puppy because ext2/3 file systems can take a long time to run fsck.
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PostPosted: Sun 06 Mar 2011, 18:41    Post_subject:  

tazoc wrote:
Jim1911 wrote:
Small problem with Mixer PCM volume slider which does not retain it's setting, it reverts to minimum setting on reboot. This is with KDE desktop, not tested other desktops.
Hi Jim,
KDE should restore the previous mixer levels when it starts but apparently something is muting the PCM. You might try pasting this into a terminal
Code:
echo -e '#!/bin/sh\nsleep 5\namixer set PCM 100% unmute' > ~/.kde/Autostart/amixer
chmod 755 ~/.kde/Autostart/amixer
and restart X. That creates a script in KDE's Autostart folder to force the PCM to 100%. You can then edit /Autostart/amixer with a text editor and change 100% to desired level, e.g., 70%.
Your first suggestion worked.

Thanks,
Jim
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PostPosted: Sun 06 Mar 2011, 18:44    Post_subject: no problem  

Not a huge deal, I kind of did it the hard way then;-)

ATTACHED & UNRELATED driver for realtek 8192se_pci wireless driver

This card is in a lot of new netbooks. It complied fine. I'd make a pet out of it but I am unsure how to go about that.
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PostPosted: Sun 06 Mar 2011, 19:16    Post_subject: Re: personal save file resize issue  

bwh1969 wrote:
I am not sure if this is an issue particular to me or if anyone else sees this.

I went to increase my save file size, and it did increase the actual file size but not the filesystem on the save file. I fixed this running e2fsck then resize2fs on the save file and the save file indicator is showing the appropriate information (as is the command df -h)

Other than that, I am extremely impressed with this!



I made a post about that bug in this thread. You might want to add your info as well, as well as how you managed to fix it.

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PostPosted: Mon 07 Mar 2011, 04:49    Post_subject:  

@Q5sys

1. "You will see a listing of programs....Thats whats in the Mariner SFS."
OK, thanks, I think I get it.
I know some of those at least.

2. "As to what is an SFS, which Im assuming is your next question"
I think I have some level of understanding of what is an SFS file.

@tazoc

3. "I'm afraid it requires re-mastering the ISO"
I might have a go at that. Smile

4. "I would stop smm, then close Sakura"
Duh, I guess that's what I should do.
Did I fail to think of that? Confused

5. "Here is a diagram by Barry Kauler that helped me to visualize the Puppy Architecture"
I've read all of that stuff at various times.
Problem is, I tend to quickly skim.
In my older years I no longer focus intensely to absorb the tiniest detail.
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PostPosted: Mon 07 Mar 2011, 07:32    Post_subject: savefile pt II  

Another way to increase the savefile size:

Alternatively in another linux distro, you could run

Code:
e2fsck /path/to/savefile


Quote:
dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M count=(additional_size-in_MB) >> /path/to/savefile


Code:
resize2fs /path/to/savefile


Code:
e2fsck /path/to/savefile


@ QSsys: I added to the post you referenced in case someone finds it. I also added the note about the boot flag pfix=fsck
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PostPosted: Tue 08 Mar 2011, 19:28    Post_subject: digikam  

I use and love digikam/showphoto

I attempted to build this from source BUT it wanst automoc4 for kde... which I do not know how to get on my system.

http://www.digikam.org/drupal/download?q=download/tarball
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PostPosted: Tue 08 Mar 2011, 23:03    Post_subject: Re: realtek 8192se_pci, digiKam  

bwh1969 wrote:
driver for realtek 8192se_pci wireless driver

This card is in a lot of new netbooks. It complied fine. I'd make a pet out of it but I am unsure how to go about that.
Hi bwh1969 and thank you for compiling this driver. To make a Pet, extract or create the folder tree to be installed inside a new folder named <pet_name>-<version>, in this case maybe r8192se_pci-k2.6.33.2, with the directory tree
Code:
lib/modules/2.6.33.2/kernel/drivers/net/wireless
inside. Then open a terminal in the folder that contains the new folder and type
Code:
dir2pet r8192se_pci-k2.6.33.2
The prompts will guide you from there. You can make changes as needed inside the directory structure and repeat the dir2pet step. It will overwrite the old Pet when building the new version. dir2pet will create a pet.specs file just inside the new folder which is used by PPM. Along with the pet.specs file you can place the scripts pinstall.sh and puninstall.sh, to be run post install and post uninstall, respectively. Those scripts are optional.

I would also like to build this Pet for LHP Update, but I would like to know what steps were needed to use it. Although I don't have the WiFi card for this driver, I extracted it to /, then in a terminal
Code:
bash-4.1# depmod-FULL -a
<root> ~
bash-4.1# modinfo r8192se_pci
filename:       /lib/modules/2.6.33.2/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/r8192se_pci.ko
license:        GPL
version:        0019.1207.2010
author:         Copyright(c) 2008 - 2010 Realsil Semiconductor Corporation <wlanfae@realtek.com>
description:    Linux driver for Realtek RTL819x WiFi cards
srcversion:     B35243106478C16B758F56E
alias:          pci:v000010ECd00008174sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:          pci:v000010ECd00008173sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:          pci:v000010ECd00008172sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:          pci:v000010ECd00008171sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
alias:          pci:v000010ECd00008192sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
depends:       
vermagic:       2.6.33.2 SMP mod_unload modversions 486
parm:           ifname: Net interface name, wlan%d=default (charp)
parm:           hwwep: Try to use hardware WEP support(default use hw. set 0 to use software security) (int)
parm:           channels: Channel bitmask for specific locales. NYI (int)
(The modinfo probably isn't necessary, just for my curiosity.) Then I used | Menu | System | BootManager | Click here to add a new module, added r8192se_pci and was instructed to reboot. Any shortcuts or is that how you used it?

Re: digiKam, I have not compiled any KDE apps successfully. digikam-2.0.0-beta3 has many dependencies, and requires both development and binary packages installed:
Quote:
Name Version URL Remarks

CMake >= 2.8.x (LHP has this in Devx-LHP_503.sfs) http://www.cmake.org
libqt >= 4.6.x http://www.qtsoftware.com Including run-time SQLite3 and Mysql database plugin.
kdelibs >= 4.4.x http://www.kde.org Nepomuk support introduced with KDE 4.3.x.
libkipi >= 1.2.0 http://www.digikam.org/sharedlibs Version from trunk KDE svn repository.
libkexiv2 >= 1.2.0 http://www.digikam.org/sharedlibs Version from trunk KDE svn repository. Exiv2 >= 0.20.0 shared library recommended.
libkdcraw >= 1.2.0 http://www.digikam.org/sharedlibs Version from trunk KDE svn repository.
libkface >= 0.1.0 http://www.digikam.org/sharedlibs Version from trunk KDE svn repository.
libkmap >= 0.1.0 http://www.digikam.org/sharedlibs Version from trunk KDE svn repository.
liblcms >= 1.17.x http://www.littlecms.com liblcms >= 2.x not yet compatible.
libtiff >= 3.8.2 http://www.remotesensing.org/libtiff
libpng >= 1.2.x http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/libpng.html
libjpeg >= 6b http://www.ijg.org
libjasper >= 1.7.x http://www.ece.uvic.ca/~mdadams/jasper
LHP doesn't have some of these development packages and I couldn't find kdelibs5-dev_4.4.4. Rather than compiling, I think your best bet is binaries from either digikam - 2:1.4.0-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa1 or digikam-1.2.0-i486-1sl. I built an SFS of the latter, but haven't tested it yet. Requires Mariner and KDE SFS, maybe more. DigiKam-1.2.0-i486-L1.sfs
Regards,
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