Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

[AJK101]

So, i was wondering if i could remove some applications like geany (since i prefer nicoedit). I went to .packages/builtin_files/geany
found all the files listed there, and deleted them, then i deleted the .desktop files and everything was fine, so i rebooted, wondering if it would reappear or not, it didn't. But when i mounted a copy of puppy.sfs i made on that boot, geany still existed there. I was wondering what exactly happened.

Does my .2fs save file have a completely filesystem? when i boot, it loads the sfs and 2fs files (according to the message). So, could someone please explain?

[nooby]

Thanks GustavoYz you describe it good while I only wild guessed.

I would use the wellminded search engine on Murga Puppy linux forum to find threads about remastering and such

http://www.wellminded.com/puppy/pupsearch.html

Try different keyword search in that one and you find many explanations.

I trust Barry Kauler have a history on how Puppy have changed through the years of Development too and there you have the structure described and what is needed for to make a Puppy as you want it.

If you are good at being structured then you can learn to use Woof and make your very own version with only those things you give priority to and have your own distro version.

[GustavoYz]

I think that there is only one method of uninstall built-in apps without entering into the 'Remaster' terrain (I wont contemplate the idea of delete the program files by hand, one by one).
Go to ibiblio repository and install EXACTLY THE SAME PACKAGE that you want to uninstall. Yes, i'm not drunk...
Doing this, you'll overwrite the existent files.
Now, uninstall it from PPM.

If you delete the .desktop file and the plain-text file into /.Packages, you're not uninstalling, just hiding the menu-entry and 'register' of the app.

[AJK101]

okay, you have misunderstood me slightly, i didn't just delete the text file in /rot/.packages i deleted all the files that it listed in the text file. That text file contains all the files that were created by the installer when whoever put them in the main sfs file, and deleted them. BUT i don't know what exactly happens, but it doesn't actually get deleted from the main sfs, as i am guessing puppy doesn't modify that file when shutting down.

Just a run through, i deleted ALL files on my machine corresponding to geany (this was properly done), and then when i restarted (i.e. when the sfs and my save file (2fs) are loaded) it wasn't present. But my sfs file still contains all the geany files (but doesn't load them when i boot the computer)

So, what exactly does puppy do when i delete a file? (cuz it is still present, but doesn't load)

[rcrsn51]

When you delete a file that exists in the sfs, a "whiteout" file is created that masks the original. You can see these hidden files in /initrd/pup_rw. They are named .wh.xxx.

[GustavoYz]

[AJK101]

Ah, i see, got it, thanks a lot

[rjbrewer]

[ICPUG]

[rjbrewer]

[AJK101]

I guess he means that it will be deleted until you update the puppy to another version, when the deleted files will be replaced, as according to the update, they are supposed to exist?

Anyway, i am adding solved to the title, thanks for all the help.

[rjbrewer]

[ICPUG]

[rjbrewer]