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The Official Release of Lucid 5.25 (Lucid Five Twenty-Five)
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gcmartin

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Posted: Mon 28 Mar 2011, 11:43 Post subject: Testing LIveCD
Subject description: Works very well

Very polished Lupu RC. goes to the desktop without issues. "Personalized Settings" has a correct resolution for this laptop. LiveCD working fine for apps tested. I have a report and a suggestion to consider
A Report

Code:

VIDEO REPORT: Lucid Puppy, version 521
Chip description:
Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller
Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller
Driver used by Xorg:

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth:
___________ From HardInfo ____________________
From Operating System Report
-Version-
Kernel    : Linux 2.6.33.2 (i686)
Compiled    : #1 SMP Thu May 27 10:56:32 EST 2010
C Library    : GNU C Library version 2.11.1 (stable)
Default C Compiler    : Unknown
Distribution    : Puppy Linux 0.52
-Current Session-
Computer Name    : Puppy-V521
User Name    : root (root)
Home Directory    : /root
Desktop Environment    : Unknown (Window Manager: Openbox)
-Misc-
Uptime    : 10 minutes
Load Average    : 0.00, 0.07, 0.07

From Display Report
-Display-
Resolution    : 1440x900 pixels
Vendor    : The X.Org Foundation
Version    : 1.7.6
-Monitors-
Monitor 0    : 1440x900 pixels
-OpenGL-
Vendor    : Unknown
Renderer    : Unknown
Version    : Unknown
Direct Rendering    : No

From Summary Report
-Computer-
Processor    : 2x Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2080 @ 1.73GHz
Memory    : 1545MB (102MB used)
Operating System    : Puppy Linux 0.52
User Name    : root (root)
Date/Time    : Mon 28 Mar 2011 11:14:23 AM UTC
-Display-
Resolution    : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer    : Unknown
X11 Vendor    : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter    : HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
-Input Devices-
AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad
CHICONY HP Basic USB Keyboard
Power Button
Sleep Button
Lid Switch
Power Button
Video Bus
PC Speaker
-SCSI Disks-
Optiarc DVD RW AD-7560A
USB 2.0 USB Flash Drive

A suggestion to consider
Barry included something that comes "out of the box" in WARY: 'glxgears'. The major advantage that this alllows any of us is that one can get a glxgears video report prior to making changes to the driver to improve video performatnce. Then, after making ddriver changes, a glxgears can be run again to compare what impact the driver upgrade.performed. If Lupu could include this, it would allow us to do the same...to compare "before and after" tweaking video. Not sure if there is any other way to do this out of the box on Lupu.

Hope this helps
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Posted: Mon 28 Mar 2011, 12:03 Post subject: Browser concerns
Subject description: for your review

Sharing something noticed regarding browsers

using Dillo in the forum.
When selecting "SeaMonkey" the offerings are not as current as they could be; namely 2.0.13 and 2.1.b2 which has some useful security modes.

Lupu is very stable, so far.[/img]

Dillo Error using forum.png
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Posted: Mon 28 Mar 2011, 12:06 Post subject:

Barry has created a 11MB Seamonkey
Sadly our 'SQLlite is too old' in Lupu rc to run [I iz crying] Crying or Very sad

http://www.bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02198
That could make a big difference to those on slow connections . . .
but it may have to be compiled for Lupu/luci/Puppy Lucid 5.2.1 (same thing guys)

The Ethernet initial connection is not persistent after the savefile reboot
and has to be set again.
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rjbrewer

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Posted: Mon 28 Mar 2011, 12:23 Post subject: Re: Testing LIveCD
Subject description: Works very well

gcmartin wrote:

Barry included something that comes "out of the box" in WARY: 'glxgears'.

Hope this helps

Run the graphics driver upgrade from quickpet.
Type glxgears in console.

Wary did it the same way for almost every version.
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Posted: Mon 28 Mar 2011, 12:37 Post subject:

Lobster wrote:

Barry has created a 11MB Seamonkey
Sadly our 'SQLlite is too old' in Lupu rc to run [I iz crying] Crying or Very sad

http://www.bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02198
That could make a big difference to those on slow connections . . .
but it may have to be compiled for Lupu/luci/Puppy Lucid 5.2.1 (same thing guys)

Just download sqlite from the quirky repo, http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/pet_packages-quirky/
on 2.14x I had to update sqlite, hunspell and a couple of system links to libjpg and libreadline. after that it worked fine. 2.14X only comes with FF4 but I figured why not test it Smile

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playdayz

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Posted: Mon 28 Mar 2011, 12:47 Post subject:

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On a modern Core i3 processor, which has on-chip video, with both 256 and 257, Puppy Video Wizard probing suggested the Xorg High driver. In contrast, 521RC, on the exact same equipment, finds "GeForce 6800 LE" and recommends the nvidia driver. That driver does seem to work, but a last-minute driver change seems a little disturbing.

Bizarre. It was not anything intentional--things are very much inter-related and a change in one place can have unpredicted consequences. After you install the Nvidia driver can you open a terminal and type "glxgears"? Or go to System -> Hardinfo and see what it says for Display. Thanks.

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Run the graphics driver upgrade from quickpet.
Type glxgears in console.

glxgears only runs when you have installed "glx" graphics--that is, Xorg_High, or the Nvidia or ATI Catalyst video upgrades. You can also confirm that glx graphics is working as above, Hardinfo -> Display and scroll all the way to the bottom

playdayz

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Posted: Mon 28 Mar 2011, 12:55 Post subject:

Quote:

Barry has created a 11MB Seamonkey
Sadly our 'SQLlite is too old' in Lupu rc to run [I iz crying]
http://www.bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02198

Just download sqlite from the quirky repo, http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/pet_packages-quirky/

I will put links to both in LupuNews. Thanks Lobster and ttuuxxx.

http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/pet_packages-quirky/sqlite-3.6.23.1-q1.pet

http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/pet_packages-quirky/seamonkey20-2.0.13-q1.pet

This should not be interpreted to mean that the sqlite in Lucid is old and unsafe. Lucid 2.1b2 uses the current sqlite just fine. It's a function of how Barry compiled SM 2.0.13.

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/pet-packages-lucid/Seamonkey-2.1b2-Lucid.pet
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gcmartin

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Posted: Mon 28 Mar 2011, 13:21 Post subject: Re: Testing LIveCD
Subject description: Works very well

rjbrewer wrote:

gcmartin wrote:

Barry included something that comes "out of the box" in WARY: 'glxgears'. ...

Run the graphics driver upgrade .... Wary did it the same way for almost every version.

I'm not trying to point a mistake in what is said, here, as I don't believe you are aware of Barry's WARY change (this change was also covered in the comment section of one of Barry's WARY blogs). Barry made an addition in current WARY; namely "wary-511-k2.6.32.28.iso". And, it MAY have been in an earlier version as well. GLXGEARS is running "out of teh box" in WARY without making any video changes or additions. .. Its just there for us to use.

On a 2nd note. one way of understanding how this change helps us is that when the Pristine system boots from LIveCD, it has already selected on our behalf a video setup for us. It would be nice if we could run glxgears before making any system changes and then run again after making those changes to access the impact , positive or negative, on video behavior. (I personally believe that this was the reason Barry did this for us in WARY.)

What you suggest means to make system change without knowing your video performance that you started with. I agree, though, that after making any video changes, glxgears accompany's that video change as you suggest.

Hope this helps.
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mavrothal

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Posted: Mon 28 Mar 2011, 13:41 Post subject:

playdayz wrote:

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Problem with Lucid Puppy 5.2.1beta "256", did a full hard drive install everything went OK until a few days ago when I have to connect my ETH01, then on reboot I have to do the same never had this problem before.Is there a quick fix for this problem or is it a bug in this beta version.

I had a problem like this with wifi which I had never had before My problem at least is fixed for next version. It seems to have come from advancing the udev--so I reverted and it stopped.

Pitty

specially since the problem was in 256 too (with the old udev).
Regarding your problem with 257, you probably just needed to delete the old "70-persistent-net.rules" (assuming was just an update) to go back to normal.
And sound worked just fine on the XO with 257 and udev 151...
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Posted: Mon 28 Mar 2011, 13:49 Post subject:

playdayz wrote:

Quote:

Here it is:

# glxgears
Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual

Quote:

Or go to System -> Hardinfo and see what it says for Display. Thanks.

And here it is:

-Computer-
Processor : 4x Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU 540 @ 3.07GHz
Memory : 3041MB (396MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.52
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Mon 28 Mar 2011 12:40:10 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA Intel

Puppy Package Manager reports the installed driver:

Lucid511_nvidia-260.19.12-k2.6.33.2

rjbrewer

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Posted: Mon 28 Mar 2011, 14:12 Post subject: Re: Testing LIveCD
Subject description: Works very well

gcmartin wrote:

rjbrewer wrote:

gcmartin wrote:

Barry included something that comes "out of the box" in WARY: 'glxgears'. ...

Run the graphics driver upgrade .... Wary did it the same way for almost every version.

I'm not trying to point a mistake in what is said, here, .

That's exactly what you're doing; knock it off!!

My 098 Wary needs highx to run glx gears,
the newer ones don't. Enough said.
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Posted: Mon 28 Mar 2011, 14:18 Post subject: Sound and video

I haven't gone thru this Lupu thread, but does this blog discussion impact Lupu?

Hope this helps
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taichifu

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Posted: Mon 28 Mar 2011, 14:22 Post subject:

Will wait for the final release and see if that will cure the problem.

playdayz

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Posted: Mon 28 Mar 2011, 14:25 Post subject:

Quote:

Regarding your problem with 257, you probably just needed to delete the old "70-persistent-net.rules" (assuming was just an update) to go back to normal.

Mavrothal, Thanks but no--I test fresh installs. Computers are just strange. I am glad you have it working in XO!

playdayz

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Posted: Mon 28 Mar 2011, 14:27 Post subject:

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I haven't gone thru this Lupu thread, but does this blog discussion impact Lupu?

I don't think so, or at least not directly. I experimented a bit and found no benefit. I think we are about as good on the sound as Lucid is going to get.

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