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82845G chip info

#571 Post by cowboy »

Playdayz: thank you.

Actually, LuPu 5.2 (and 5.1.1) have been the best behaved puppies for me. I initially booted to desktop without a problem, but later ran xorgwizard (as I'd done that with other puppies) and used that setting. Both methods work, though they generate different xorg.conf files. Both however, in the drivers, have an entry for .810_drv that is a symlink to the intel_drv, and that seems to work better than puppy derivatives that do not support that, like the more recent spups (which run a later version of Xorg, i think?)

anway, under the TMI heading, I'm attached results for:

1. lscpi test

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE/PE DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 03)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-M) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 82)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 02)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801DB (ICH4) IDE Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) SMBus Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
01:09.0 Ethernet controller: National Semiconductor Corporation DP83815 (MacPhyter) Ethernet Controller
01:0a.0 Communication controller: Agere Systems LT WinModem (rev 02)
01:0c.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
01:0d.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): NEC Corporation uPD72874 IEEE1394 OHCI 1.1 3-port PHY-Link Ctrlr (rev 01)

2. report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Lucid Puppy, version 520

Chip description:
Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device

Driver used by Xorg:
intel

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

3. pfix=ram boot, boot to desktop, xorg.conf version
#Special base config file used in Puppy Linux.

# **********************************************************************
# Module section -- this section is used to specify
# which dynamically loadable modules to load.
# **********************************************************************
#
Section "Module"

# This loads the DBE extension module.

Load "dbe" # Double buffer extension

# This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables
# initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module.
SubSection "extmod"
Option "omit xfree86-dga" # don't initialise the DGA extension
EndSubSection

# This loads the font modules
# Load "type1"
# Load "freetype"

# This loads xtrap extension, used by xrandr
# Load "xtrap"

# This loads the GLX module (if present). xorg 7.4/5 need explicit disable to disable...
Load "glx" #LOADGLX

# This loads dri module (if present). 7.4 loads it by default, have to disable...
Load "dri" #LOADDRI
# Disable "dri"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Files section. This allows default font paths to be set
# **********************************************************************

Section "Files"

# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together),
# as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath
# command (or a combination of both methods)

FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/TTF/"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Server flags section.
# **********************************************************************

Section "ServerFlags"

# Uncomment this to disable the <Crtl><Alt><Fn> VT switch sequence
# (where n is 1 through 12). This allows clients to receive these key
# events.

# Option "DontVTSwitch"

# Enables mode switching with xrandr
# There is a report that this can cause Xorg not to work on some
# video hardware, so default is commented-out...
# but i want to use it in xorgwizard so leave on...

Option "RandR" "on"

# With this, Xorg won't talk to HAL to add evdev devices and you'll be back
# with the old Xorg behavior (pre-7.4)...

Option "AutoAddDevices" "false"

# For no-Hal, kirk also suggests this...

# Option "AllowMouseOpenFail" "true"

# Xorg 7.4, Ubuntu Jaunty, CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE is disabled by default...

Option "DontZap" "false"

EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc102"
Option "XkbLayout" "us" #xkeymap0
EndSection

#everything past here is auto-generated by Puppy's Xorg Wizard...


#PuppyHardwareProfile=Intel_r_845G_845GL_845GE_845GV_Graphics_ChipF50

4. pfix=ram boot, run xorgwizard, xorg.conf version

#Special base config file used in Puppy Linux.

# **********************************************************************
# Module section -- this section is used to specify
# which dynamically loadable modules to load.
# **********************************************************************
#
Section "Module"

# This loads the DBE extension module.

Load "dbe" # Double buffer extension

# This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables
# initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module.
SubSection "extmod"
Option "omit xfree86-dga" # don't initialise the DGA extension
EndSubSection

# This loads the font modules
# Load "type1"
# Load "freetype"

# This loads xtrap extension, used by xrandr
# Load "xtrap"

# This loads the GLX module (if present). xorg 7.4/5 need explicit disable to disable...
Load "glx" #LOADGLX

# This loads dri module (if present). 7.4 loads it by default, have to disable...
Load "dri" #LOADDRI
# Disable "dri"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Files section. This allows default font paths to be set
# **********************************************************************

Section "Files"

# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together),
# as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath
# command (or a combination of both methods)

FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/TTF/"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Server flags section.
# **********************************************************************

Section "ServerFlags"

# Uncomment this to disable the <Crtl><Alt><Fn> VT switch sequence
# (where n is 1 through 12). This allows clients to receive these key
# events.

# Option "DontVTSwitch"

# Enables mode switching with xrandr
# There is a report that this can cause Xorg not to work on some
# video hardware, so default is commented-out...
# but i want to use it in xorgwizard so leave on...

Option "RandR" "on"

# With this, Xorg won't talk to HAL to add evdev devices and you'll be back
# with the old Xorg behavior (pre-7.4)...

Option "AutoAddDevices" "false"

# For no-Hal, kirk also suggests this...

# Option "AllowMouseOpenFail" "true"

# Xorg 7.4, Ubuntu Jaunty, CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE is disabled by default...

Option "DontZap" "false"

EndSection

#everything past here is auto-generated by Puppy's Xorg Wizard...


Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "X.org Configured"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc102"
Option "XkbLayout" "us" #xkeymap0
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" #mouse0protocol
Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
#Option "Emulate3Buttons"
#Option "Emulate3Timeout" "50"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" #scrollwheel
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "Monitor Model"
HorizSync 31-60
VertRefresh 56-75
#UseModes "Modes0" #monitor0usemodes
Option "PreferredMode" "1024x768"
EndSection

Section "Modes"
Identifier "Modes0"
#modes0modeline0
EndSection

Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option "NoAccel" # [<bool>]
#Option "SWcursor" # [<bool>]
#Option "ColorKey" # <i>
#Option "CacheLines" # <i>
#Option "Dac6Bit" # [<bool>]
#Option "DRI" # [<bool>]
#Option "NoDDC" # [<bool>]
#Option "ShowCache" # [<bool>]
#Option "XvMCSurfaces" # <i>
#Option "PageFlip" # [<bool>]
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "intel" #card0driver
Option "LinearAlloc" "6144"
VendorName "Intel Corporation"
BoardName "82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device"
BusID "PCI:0:2:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
#Option "metamodes" "1024x768_60 +0+0" #METAMODES_0
Subsection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768"
EndSubsection
EndSection

#PuppyHardwareProfile=Intel_r_845G_845GL_845GE_845GV_Graphics_ChipF50



I hope all that provides some useful data for you, in some way. Again, thanks for your work with Puppy 5, and I apologize for the lameness of the cut and paste above, but perhaps it will serve some purpose.
[i]"you fix what you can fix and you let the rest go.."[/i] - Cormac McCarthy - No Country For Old Men.

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#572 Post by bigpup »

playdayz wrote:Could you send or post the output of the command lspci? Open a terminal an enter

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lspci >> test.txt
.

And then you can copy and paste from the file /root/test.txt into the message box. Thanks.
I copied this and made a scripted file you can click on to run this test.
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#573 Post by rerwin »

cowboy wrote:rerwin - I seem to have the same chip, the 82845G, in my 2002 era HP Pavilion desktop. While I haven't had a problem with Lucid, I have had difficulties with Spup which seems to use a later version of Xorg than Lucid 5.2.

Were you able to boot to desktop with the new version of Luci? Did you accept the initial setup? or have you had better luck running the Xorgwizard?
I've always been up in the air about which driver to choose there - intel, i740, or i810.
When I first boot up with Luci 254, I must enter the argument, i915.modeset=0 (as well as pfix=ram), to override the i915.conf file in /etc/modprobe.d. I take the defaults as Luci proceeds through bootup. Then I reboot and create a pupsave file, using the modeset argument again. Then I delete /etc/modprobe.d/i915.conf file and reboot again, now without any arguments. All is normal from there on. I do the first reboot before the deletion because the removal may not survive the first reboot, due to quirks of the layered file system.

The module that gets loaded is intel_agp; I do not get into selecting any alternate. I infer from your "no problem" comment that the presence of the i915.conf file does not hang you up with the black screen at bootup. Is that correct? If so, then we need a way to discriminate between your case and mine -- it could get nerdy.
Richard

Edit: I just reviewed your posting above and see that you have rev 3 of the graphics card, while I have rev 1. That's a starting point!. R

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#574 Post by playdayz »

Oh rerwin, I am glad you are here for this ;-) I was sad to see that you both have 82845 Brookdale-G. I see you already have seen one difference--it is already nerdy, dude! I will be happy to distinguish between just these two cards--as I said in a pm I am willing to bet that yours is the exception based on our previous results.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I tested guvcview with my $10 webcam and I worked right off the bat. At least to show and save the video. I didn't get the built-in microphone working--after I had worked the other day to get the mic working with gtkRecodMyDesktop. But it was a different mic input--usb vs. audio card--so I can use my regular mic.

So what verdict is emerging about luvcview versus guvcview?

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#575 Post by chrismt »

I noticed something, after Luci 253, I am having to always click reset wireless config every start up to make Pwireless work with my usb Realtek modem

I wonder why

By the way, Dejan555 updated Pidgin to version 2.7.11

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=64385

I always like the Pidgin update by Dejan :wink:

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#576 Post by James C »

Everyone seems to be having fun with the new graphics problems so I grabbed an old Dell off the shelf with the famous (or infamous) Intel 845 graphics chip.

Live pfix=ram.....booted straight to the correct working desktop. Since installed Xorg_High and Firefox.


VIDEO REPORT: Lucid Puppy, version 254

Chip description:
Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device

Driver used by Xorg:


Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth:

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#

# glxgears
1102 frames in 5.0 seconds
1120 frames in 5.0 seconds
1103 frames in 5.0 seconds


test.txt
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE/PE DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 01)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 01)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 01)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 01)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-M) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 01)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 81)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 01)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801DB (ICH4) IDE Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) SMBus Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)
01:0c.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82540EM Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 02)


So I'm also running rev 01 too.

-Computer-
Processor : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.00GHz
Memory : 513MB (153MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.25
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Mon 14 Mar 2011 04:43:14 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI Intel(R) 845G GEM 20091221 2009Q4 x86/MMX/SSE2
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : ICH4 - Intel 82801DB-ICH4


Anyway, no problems here at all. :)

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#577 Post by James C »

Just for comparison purposes, I've now booted SlackPup 099 live pfix=ram where I went through xorgwizard and accepted the default driver. No problems in either.


Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option "NoAccel" # [<bool>]
#Option "SWcursor" # [<bool>]
#Option "ColorKey" # <i>
#Option "CacheLines" # <i>
#Option "Dac6Bit" # [<bool>]
#Option "DRI" # [<bool>]
#Option "NoDDC" # [<bool>]
#Option "ShowCache" # [<bool>]
#Option "XvMCSurfaces" # <i>
#Option "PageFlip" # [<bool>]
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "intel" #card0driver
Option "LinearAlloc" "6144"
VendorName "Unknown Vendor"
BoardName "Unknown Board"
BusID "PCI:0:2:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
#Option "metamodes" "1024x768_60 +0+0" #METAMODES_0
Subsection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768"
EndSubsection
EndSection

#PuppyHardwareProfile=Brookdale_G_Graphics_Chip30_70_50_160

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localized puppyhelp

#578 Post by don570 »

I've localized the puppyhelp application so it will
automatically open a HTML file on your hard disk

For example if you are using French, clicking on the
Help Desktop Icon will open a help file that is in French.
Try it.

I've included locals for German, French and Spanish.

It would be nice to have it included in Lucid Puppy.
It also works in Wary.

Download and install these two pets:

puppyhelp-1.0.pet
puppyhelp_NLS-1.0.pet

__________________________________

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#579 Post by playdayz »

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
Oh no, the same as rerwin, but you can boot straight to the desktop, right? No black screen.

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#580 Post by playdayz »

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
Oh no, the same as rerwin, but you can boot straight to the desktop, right? No black screen.

Here's rerwin's, for reference.

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# lspci -nn
00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE/PE DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface [8086:2560] (rev 01)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device [8086:2562] (rev 01)
00:1d.0 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #1 [8086:24c2] (rev 01)
00:1d.1 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #2 [8086:24c4] (rev 01)
00:1d.2 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #3 [8086:24c7] (rev 01)
00:1d.7 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-M) USB2 EHCI Controller [8086:24cd] (rev 01)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge [8086:244e] (rev 81)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge [0601]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) LPC Interface Bridge [8086:24c0] (rev 01)
00:1f.1 IDE interface [0101]: Intel Corporation 82801DB (ICH4) IDE Controller [8086:24cb] (rev 01)
00:1f.3 SMBus [0c05]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) SMBus Controller [8086:24c3] (rev 01)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller [8086:24c5] (rev 01)
02:08.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation 82801DB PRO/100 VE (LOM) Ethernet Controller [8086:1039] (rev 81)
02:09.0 Communication controller [0780]: Agere Systems 56k WinModem [11c1:0441] (rev 01)
02:0c.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394) [0c00]: Texas Instruments TSB12LV26 IEEE-1394 Controller (Link) [104c:8020]
#

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#581 Post by 01micko »

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# lspci -nn|grep VGA
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device [8086:2562] (rev 01)
Ok, in spup atm but no problems! this machine has 511 installed with a widescreen monitor. It only boots usb, cd drive broken :( . I'll make a luci-254 stick and test that, back in a mo

Everything is fine in luci-254, booted to the correct desktop. Only issue is that I get the high res console when dropping out of X, no big deal , always happened on this box.

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Timing issue with zd1211rw USB wifi dongle

#582 Post by Minnesota »

Plugged in my USB zd1211rw dongle.

Personalize settings box was on the screen. Went immediately to Connect desktop button. Module was found, so I clicked on wlan0.

Continued, took Puppy Network Wizard as usual. Clicked Wireless, clicked SCAN at the top... NO NETWORKS FOUND... now I knew better.

Booted 520...Jan version... found networks, same seq.

If you answer OK to setting then perform wizard.. networks found in 524. Humm Or if you have USB dongle installed at CD boot... it finds networks.

OK, boot CD, Plug in USB module.........
THEN - let all settle down till the icon on at the bottom shows the firewall....then scan....and you get networks.

SO.... this is a timing issue... does not need direct addressing.. but hope the information helps others when you go live.

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#583 Post by James C »

playdayz wrote:
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
Oh no, the same as rerwin, but you can boot straight to the desktop, right? No black screen.
Yes, boots straight to a correct working desktop with no additional input.All I did is set the time zone and caps lock....... no black screen. Works fine.

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#584 Post by playdayz »

Curiouser and Curiouser.

01micko also has the same basic chipset as rerwin and James C.

James C and Cowboy, rerwin requests that you send the output of the command

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lspci -nn
That gives the device id#'s which might help. Thanks.

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#585 Post by James C »

01micko wrote:Only issue is that I get the high res console when dropping out of X, no big deal
Noticed that as well here.

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#586 Post by 01micko »

James C

Yours looks identical to mine, in which I have no issues apart from small console fonts outside of X, but that could be because it doesn't know how to handle the newish widescreen.

Seems there are many different versions of 82845G! :roll:
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#587 Post by James C »

playdayz wrote:Curiouser and Curiouser.

01micko also has the same basic chipset as rerwin and James C.

James C and Cowboy, rerwin requests that you send the output of the command

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lspci -nn
That gives the device id#'s which might help. Thanks.

# lspci -nn
00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE/PE DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface [8086:2560] (rev 01)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device [8086:2562] (rev 01)
00:1d.0 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #1 [8086:24c2] (rev 01)
00:1d.1 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #2 [8086:24c4] (rev 01)
00:1d.2 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #3 [8086:24c7] (rev 01)
00:1d.7 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-M) USB2 EHCI Controller [8086:24cd] (rev 01)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge [8086:244e] (rev 81)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge [0601]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) LPC Interface Bridge [8086:24c0] (rev 01)
00:1f.1 IDE interface [0101]: Intel Corporation 82801DB (ICH4) IDE Controller [8086:24cb] (rev 01)
00:1f.3 SMBus [0c05]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) SMBus Controller [8086:24c3] (rev 01)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller [8086:24c5] (rev 01)
01:0c.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation 82540EM Gigabit Ethernet Controller [8086:100e] (rev 02)
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rerwin
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#588 Post by rerwin »

Thanks to all of you for jumping into this discussion of the 845 black screen issue. As a way to further sort out a way to determine which flavor of the card has the problem, could some of you with this card check for more info, by running this command:

grep '0x2562' /tmp/udevtrace.log

My NetVista has:

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add_0000:00:02.0_pci_0x8086_0x2562_pci:v00008086d00002562sv00001014sd00000267bc03sc00i00
I am hoping the ones that work have something different in the pci: modalias string. Thanks.
Richard

A thought I just had: When I looked at my BIOS setup yesterday, I noticed that the VGA aperture is set to 64, which seems small. I think it can go to 256, but that would use up half of my RAM - or is that KB, not MB. Could that be a factor in the black-screen issue? I will test. R

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#589 Post by 01micko »

Hi Richard

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 grep '0x2562' /tmp/udevtrace.log
add_0000:00:02.0_pci_0x8086_0x2562_pci:v00008086d00002562sv00000E11sd000000BAbc03sc00i00
remove_i2c-2_i2c_0x8086_0x2562_pci:v00008086d00002562sv00000E11sd000000BAbc03sc00i00
remove_i2c-3_i2c_0x8086_0x2562_pci:v00008086d00002562sv00000E11sd000000BAbc03sc00i00
add_i2c-3_i2c_0x8086_0x2562_pci:v00008086d00002562sv00000E11sd000000BAbc03sc00i00
remove_i2c-3_i2c_0x8086_0x2562_pci:v00008086d00002562sv00000E11sd000000BAbc03sc00i00
add_i2c-3_i2c_0x8086_0x2562_pci:v00008086d00002562sv00000E11sd000000BAbc03sc00i00
remove_i2c-3_i2c_0x8086_0x2562_pci:v00008086d00002562sv00000E11sd000000BAbc03sc00i00
Greek to me!

James C, I suspect that wont work for you as the product ID is different to mine, weird.

Cheers

BTW, it's a compaq-EVO 500, one of those slimline desktops with mostly laptop parts. (circa 2002)
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#590 Post by James C »

# grep '0x2562' /tmp/udevtrace.log
add_0000:00:02.0_pci_0x8086_0x2562_pci:v00008086d00002562sv00001028sd00000126bc03sc00i00
remove_i2c-2_i2c_0x8086_0x2562_pci:v00008086d00002562sv00001028sd00000126bc03sc00i00
remove_i2c-3_i2c_0x8086_0x2562_pci:v00008086d00002562sv00001028sd00000126bc03sc00i00
add_i2c-3_i2c_0x8086_0x2562_pci:v00008086d00002562sv00001028sd00000126bc03sc00i00
remove_i2c-3_i2c_0x8086_0x2562_pci:v00008086d00002562sv00001028sd00000126bc03sc00i00
add_i2c-3_i2c_0x8086_0x2562_pci:v00008086d00002562sv00001028sd00000126bc03sc00i00
remove_i2c-3_i2c_0x8086_0x2562_pci:v00008086d00002562sv00001028sd00000126bc03sc00i00
#


udevtrace.log
add_LNXSYBUS:00_acpi___acpi:LNXSYBUS:
add_LNXCPU:01_acpi___acpi:LNXCPU:
add_LNXCPU:00_acpi___acpi:LNXCPU:
add_cooling_device0_thermal__LNXCPU:00_
add_processor_drivers___
add_processor_module___
add_button_module___
add_LNXPWRBN:00_acpi___acpi:LNXPWRBN:
add_button_drivers___
add_LNXSYSTM:00_acpi___acpi:LNXSYSTM:
add_PNP0200:00_acpi___acpi:PNP0200:
add_PNP0C01:00_acpi___acpi:PNP0C01:
add_PNP0303:00_acpi___acpi:PNP0303:
add_PNP0501:00_acpi___acpi:PNP0501:
add_PNP0000:00_acpi___acpi:PNP0000:
add_PNP0100:00_acpi___acpi:PNP0100:
add_PNP0800:00_acpi___acpi:PNP0800:
add_PNP0C0F:00_acpi___acpi:PNP0C0F:
add_PNP0C0F:01_acpi___acpi:PNP0C0F:
add_PNP0C0F:02_acpi___acpi:PNP0C0F:
add_PNP0C0F:03_acpi___acpi:PNP0C0F:
add_PNP0C0F:04_acpi___acpi:PNP0C0F:
add_PNP0C0F:05_acpi___acpi:PNP0C0F:
add_PNP0C0F:06_acpi___acpi:PNP0C0F:
add_PNP0C0F:07_acpi___acpi:PNP0C0F:
add_input2_input__PNP0C0C:00_input:b0019v0000p0001e0000-e0,1,k74,ramlsfw
add_event0_input__input0_input:b0011v0001p0001eAB41-e0,1,4,11,14,k71,72,73,74,75,76,77,79,7A,7B,7C,7D,7E,7F,80,8C,8E,8F,9B,9C,9D,9E,9F,A3,A4,A5,A6,AC,AD,B7,B8,B9,D9,E2,ram4,l0,1,2,sfw
add_event1_input__input1_input:b0011v0002p0005e0051-e0,1,2,k110,111,112,r0,1,8,amlsfw
add_parport_module___
add_evdev_module___
add_input3_input__LNXPWRBN:00_input:b0019v0000p0001e0000-e0,1,k74,ramlsfw
add_parport_pc_drivers___
add_parport_pc_module___
add_PNP0401:00_acpi___acpi:PNP0401:
add_event3_input__input3_input:b0019v0000p0001e0000-e0,1,k74,ramlsfw
add_parport_pc_drivers___
add_parport_pc_drivers___
add_0000:00:02.0_pci_0x8086_0x2562_pci:v00008086d00002562sv00001028sd00000126bc03sc00i00
add_LNXTHERM:00_acpi___acpi:LNXTHERM:
add_thermal_module___
add_thermal_drivers___
add_PNP0700:00_acpi___acpi:PNP0700:
add_parport_pc.956_platform___
add_parport_pc.632_platform___
add_parport_pc.888_platform___
remove_parport_pc.888_platform___
remove_parport_pc.956_platform___
remove_parport_pc.632_platform___
add_PNP0C0C:00_acpi___acpi:PNP0C0C:
add_0000:00:1f.0_pci_0x8086_0x24c0_pci:v00008086d000024C0sv00000000sd00000000bc06sc01i00
add_0000:00:1f.1_pci_0x8086_0x24cb_pci:v00008086d000024CBsv00001028sd00000126bc01sc01i8a
add_event2_input__input2_input:b0019v0000p0001e0000-e0,1,k74,ramlsfw
add_PNP0A03:00_acpi___acpi:PNP0A03:
add_floppy.0_platform___platform:floppy
add_i8042_platform___platform:i8042
add_0000:00:1d.0_pci_0x8086_0x24c2_pci:v00008086d000024C2sv00001028sd00000126bc0Csc03i00
add_serial8250_platform___platform:serial8250
add_device:02_acpi___acpi:device:
add_device:03_acpi___acpi:device:
add_PNP0C01:01_acpi___acpi:PNP0C01:
add_PNP0F13:00_acpi___acpi:PNP0F13:
add_PNP0C04:00_acpi___acpi:PNP0C04:
add_device:00_acpi___acpi:device:
add_device:01_acpi___acpi:device:
add_PNP0B00:00_acpi___acpi:PNP0B00:
add_0:0:0:0_scsi_ATA_0x24cb_scsi:t-0x00
add_vesafb.0_platform___platform:vesafb
add_1:0:0:0_scsi_SAMSUNG_0x24cb_scsi:t-0x05
add_device:04_acpi___acpi:device:
add_font_module___
add_tileblit_module___
add_bitblit_module___
add_softcursor_module___
add_fbcon_graphics___
add_fbcon_module___
add_0000:00:1d.1_pci_0x8086_0x24c4_pci:v00008086d000024C4sv00001028sd00000126bc0Csc03i00
add_0000:00:1d.2_pci_0x8086_0x24c7_pci:v00008086d000024C7sv00001028sd00000126bc0Csc03i00
add_agpgart_module___
add_agpgart_misc___
add_intel_agp_module___
add_0000:00:00.0_pci_0x8086_0x2560_pci:v00008086d00002560sv00001028sd00000126bc06sc00i00
add_agpgart-intel_drivers___
add_serio0_serio___serio:ty06pr00id00ex00
add_snd_page_alloc_module___
add_0000:00:1d.7_pci_0x8086_0x24cd_pci:v00008086d000024CDsv00001028sd00000126bc0Csc03i20
add_2-0:1.0_usb_0x8086_0x24c2_usb:v1D6Bp0001d0206dc09dsc00dp00ic09isc00ip00
add_sound_class___
add_soundcore_module___
add_pci_hotplug_module___
add_serio1_serio___serio:ty01pr00id00ex00
add_0000:00:1e.0_pci_0x8086_0x244e_pci:v00008086d0000244Esv00000000sd00000000bc06sc04i00
add_0000:00:1f.3_pci_0x8086_0x24c3_pci:v00008086d000024C3sv00001028sd00000126bc0Csc05i00
add_shpchp_drivers___
add_serio_raw_drivers___
add_serio_raw_module___
add_shpchp_module___
add_i2c_core_module___
add_i2c_bus___
add_i2c_i801_module___
add_i2c-0_i2c_0x8086_0000:00:1f.3_pci:v00008086d000024C3sv00001028sd00000126bc0Csc05i00
add_dummy_drivers___
add_i801_smbus_drivers___
add_snd_module___
add_4-0:1.0_usb_0x8086_0x24c7_usb:v1D6Bp0001d0206dc09dsc00dp00ic09isc00ip00
add_3-0:1.0_usb_0x8086_0x24c4_usb:v1D6Bp0001d0206dc09dsc00dp00ic09isc00ip00
add_timer_sound___
add_snd_timer_module___
add_snd_seq_device_module___
add_seq_sound___
add_snd_seq_module___
add_pcspkr_module___
add_pcspkr_drivers___
add_pcspkr_platform___platform:pcspkr
add_snd_rawmidi_module___
add_snd_seq_midi_event_module___
add_snd_seq_midi_module___
add_2-0:1.0_usb_0x8086_0x24c2_usb:v1D6Bp0001d0206dc09dsc00dp00ic09isc00ip00
add_snd_seq_oss_module___
add_sequencer2_sound___
add_sequencer_sound___
add_1-0:1.0_usb_0x8086_0x24cd_usb:v1D6Bp0002d0206dc09dsc00dp00ic09isc00ip00
add_3-0:1.0_usb_0x8086_0x24c4_usb:v1D6Bp0001d0206dc09dsc00dp00ic09isc00ip00
add_battery_module___
add_snd_seq_dummy_module___
add_battery_drivers___
add_4-0:1.0_usb_0x8086_0x24c7_usb:v1D6Bp0001d0206dc09dsc00dp00ic09isc00ip00
remove_battery_drivers___
remove_battery_module___
add_input4_input__pcspkr_input:b0010v001Fp0001e0100-e0,12,kramls1,2,fw
add_event4_input__input4_input:b0010v001Fp0001e0100-e0,12,kramls1,2,fw
add_e1000_module___
add_snd_pcm_module___
add_1-0:1.0_usb_0x8086_0x24cd_usb:v1D6Bp0002d0206dc09dsc00dp00ic09isc00ip00
add_snd_mixer_oss_module___
add_ac97_bus___
add_snd_pcm_oss_module___
add_ac97_bus_module___
add_snd_ac97_codec_module___
add_snd_intel8x0_module___
add_0000:01:0c.0_pci_0x8086_0x100e_pci:v00008086d0000100Esv00001028sd0000002Ebc02sc00i00
add_e1000_drivers___
add_eth0_net_0x8086_0000:01:0c.0_pci:v00008086d0000100Esv00001028sd0000002Ebc02sc00i00
add_0000:00:1f.5_pci_0x8086_0x24c5_pci:v00008086d000024C5sv00001028sd00000126bc04sc01i00
add_Intel ICH_drivers___
add_0-0:AD1981B_ac97_0x8086_0x24c5_pci:v00008086d000024C5sv00001028sd00000126bc04sc01i00
add_card0_sound_0x8086_0000:00:1f.5_pci:v00008086d000024C5sv00001028sd00000126bc04sc01i00
add_pcmC0D0c_sound_0x8086_card0_pci:v00008086d000024C5sv00001028sd00000126bc04sc01i00
add_audio_sound_0x8086_card0_pci:v00008086d000024C5sv00001028sd00000126bc04sc01i00
add_dsp_sound_0x8086_card0_pci:v00008086d000024C5sv00001028sd00000126bc04sc01i00
add_adsp_sound_0x8086_card0_pci:v00008086d000024C5sv00001028sd00000126bc04sc01i00
add_pcmC0D1c_sound_0x8086_card0_pci:v00008086d000024C5sv00001028sd00000126bc04sc01i00
add_pcmC0D0p_sound_0x8086_card0_pci:v00008086d000024C5sv00001028sd00000126bc04sc01i00
add_mixer_sound_0x8086_card0_pci:v00008086d000024C5sv00001028sd00000126bc04sc01i00
add_controlC0_sound_0x8086_card0_pci:v00008086d000024C5sv00001028sd00000126bc04sc01i00
add_pcmC0D2c_sound_0x8086_card0_pci:v00008086d000024C5sv00001028sd00000126bc04sc01i00
add_pcmC0D3c_sound_0x8086_card0_pci:v00008086d000024C5sv00001028sd00000126bc04sc01i00
add_pcmC0D4p_sound_0x8086_card0_pci:v00008086d000024C5sv00001028sd00000126bc04sc01i00
add_vcs2_vc___
add_vcsa2_vc___
add_vcsa3_vc___
add_vcs3_vc___
add_vcs4_vc___
add_vcsa4_vc___
add_output_module___
add_i2c_algo_bit_module___
add_video_output_class___
add_video_drivers___
add_video_module___
add_drm_class___
add_drm_module___
add_drm_kms_helper_module___
add_i915_module___
add_controlD64_drm_0x8086_0000:00:02.0_pci:v00008086d00002562sv00001028sd00000126bc03sc00i00
add_card0_drm_0x8086_0000:00:02.0_pci:v00008086d00002562sv00001028sd00000126bc03sc00i00
add_i2c-2_i2c_0x8086_0000:00:02.0_pci:v00008086d00002562sv00001028sd00000126bc03sc00i00
add_i2c-3_i2c_0x8086_0000:00:02.0_pci:v00008086d00002562sv00001028sd00000126bc03sc00i00
add_i2c-1_i2c_0x8086_0000:00:02.0_pci:v00008086d00002562sv00001028sd00000126bc03sc00i00
add_card0-VGA-1_drm_0x8086_card0_pci:v00008086d00002562sv00001028sd00000126bc03sc00i00
remove_i2c-3_i2c_0x8086_0000:00:02.0_pci:v00008086d00002562sv00001028sd00000126bc03sc00i00
change_card0_drm_0x8086_0000:00:02.0_pci:v00008086d00002562sv00001028sd00000126bc03sc00i00
add_i2c-3_i2c_0x8086_0000:00:02.0_pci:v00008086d00002562sv00001028sd00000126bc03sc00i00
remove_i2c-3_i2c_0x8086_0000:00:02.0_pci:v00008086d00002562sv00001028sd00000126bc03sc00i00
add_i2c-3_i2c_0x8086_0000:00:02.0_pci:v00008086d00002562sv00001028sd00000126bc03sc00i00
remove_i2c-2_i2c_0x8086_0x2562_pci:v00008086d00002562sv00001028sd00000126bc03sc00i00
remove_i2c-3_i2c_0x8086_0x2562_pci:v00008086d00002562sv00001028sd00000126bc03sc00i00
add_i2c-3_i2c_0x8086_0x2562_pci:v00008086d00002562sv00001028sd00000126bc03sc00i00
remove_i2c-3_i2c_0x8086_0x2562_pci:v00008086d00002562sv00001028sd00000126bc03sc00i00
add_i2c-3_i2c_0x8086_0x2562_pci:v00008086d00002562sv00001028sd00000126bc03sc00i00
remove_i2c-3_i2c_0x8086_0x2562_pci:v00008086d00002562sv00001028sd00000126bc03sc00i00
add_fb0_graphics_0x8086_0000:00:02.0_pci:v00008086d00002562sv00001028sd00000126bc03sc00i00
add_vtcon1_vtconsole___
add_i915_drivers___

Don't understand it,but there it is.... :lol:

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