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The Official Release of Lucid 5.25 (Lucid Five Twenty-Five)
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666philb


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PostPosted: Wed 09 Mar 2011, 16:56    Post subject:  

playdayz wrote:
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2/ No WMA LossLess support.

live, Will VLC, Audacious, or Aqualung in PPM play WMA Lossless?


No they don't. neither do deadbeef, songbird, lxmusic, mediaplayer, gnome player or amarok

the only thing that played wma lossless was foobar.

Also i tested a few more of the gecko plugins for firefox, as stated the divx played perfectly, realplayer some played, but some did not. and quicktime none that i found played.
i don't think that's such a big deal though as you only really get quicktime nowadays inside apples walled garden, and realplayer 'thank god' is mostly a thing of the past.. Divx and flash are the most important and they both work fine.

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PostPosted: Wed 09 Mar 2011, 17:00    Post subject:  

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the only thing that played wma lossless was foobar.

Thank goodness we have foobar! I am surprised about some of the others though. Thanks for that testing.

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Would anyone think a small non-graphical file manager would be a worthwhile addition. I like rox and I can use it and I do like the graphics, but some of my Woof folders take a long time for rox to load. Recommendations? There are several under Filesystems in PPM. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Wed 09 Mar 2011, 17:05    Post subject:  

Hope I am not derailing. In another part of teh forum a guy did ask about a lupu related question. He claimed that he had tried to installed Thunar from the PPM.

I am in Snow now so will not take time to look at the ppm.

But are there two kinds of Thunar? One being a pet made by devs of Lupu or supporters of puppy and lupu and them uploading it to the PPM and then another way to reach through the PPM the official Ubuntu repo that have unprepared Thunar that only works after one made it safe for Lupu to use?

The version he tried failed when he installed it.

Should he make a bug report here or just trust that it is a hit and miss thing to use the Lupu repo?

I find it most likely he found the orginal Thunar made for Ubuntu and that one need to make a pet to install it properly?

Am I right or wrong? I never used Thunar but trust it is a bit like Rox?

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PostPosted: Wed 09 Mar 2011, 17:18    Post subject:  

Just used the PPM to install Thunar in 253...no problem at all.
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PostPosted: Wed 09 Mar 2011, 17:22    Post subject:  

Yes good, much appreciated, in case he fail to find this post I link to it in his thread. he could try it out on his set up then Thanks

he thread my entry
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=502756#502756

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PostPosted: Wed 09 Mar 2011, 17:32    Post subject:  

Barrys Transmission pet that he said should work on other Puppys, did briefly, then stopped.
So I went back to the one in Lucid.

Was trying to play a movie full screen in avi fomat with subtitles.
No luck with Gnome mplayer (film jerky)
or VLC (no subtitles)
Quite shocked as normally between these two can play most things . . .

In the end watched it in Ubuntu 10:10 in Gnome mplayer which I had on the system.

just reporting back - not sure of solutions
I should imagine Ubuntu has more of the Gnome libraries . . .

Lucview - tried with 3 logitech webcams - nothing
Does it do anything for anyone?

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PostPosted: Wed 09 Mar 2011, 17:46    Post subject:  

My understanding about the Ubuntu repositories in PPM.
The programs can be downloaded and used.
One very big and important thing
When you download one:
Prior to the actual download, you have the option to check for needed dependency files.
If any are found, they will be added to the download. So, you could see the program you picked and a long list of other files, that will also be downloaded.
These files must be downloaded for the program to work.
In the Lucid Puppy Repository:
All the pets are setup for Lucid Puppy and have everything they need.
The stuff in the Lucid Puppy repository is sometimes newer and for sure more stable.

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PostPosted: Wed 09 Mar 2011, 17:48    Post subject:  

bigpup that is important to realize will be interesting to know if he knew that when he did teh thunar install. I go to bed now. I wrote about it and linked here in his trhead
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PostPosted: Wed 09 Mar 2011, 17:57    Post subject:  

Lobster wrote:


Lucview - tried with 3 logitech webcams - nothing
Does it do anything for anyone?


pemasu made a new guvcview.pet yesterday, it's the first time my web cam has ever worked on linux! Smile

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PostPosted: Wed 09 Mar 2011, 18:41    Post subject: Announcing Luci 253 - The Most Leading-Edge Lucid Ever
Subject description: X File Explorer
 

xfe-1.32.2-i686.pet (X File Explorer) is a file manager similar to
midnight commander.
fox-1.6.43-i686.pet must be installed also or xfe won't run.

I had to delete the kde icon theme to keep the xfe-1.32.2-i686.pet
under the 2mb size limit for uploading to the forum.
If you want the kde icon theme move kdetheme.tar.gz to /usr/share/xfe/icons
and unpack it there.

I made these pets in 252 and tested them in 253.
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PostPosted: Wed 09 Mar 2011, 18:47    Post subject: Lucview
Subject description: Lucview
 

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Lobster wrote:
Lucview - tried with 3 logitech webcams - nothing
Does it do anything for anyone?


I've been using my webcam and Lucview for a few months throughout my testing of previous Luci and now in Luci 253 without having encountered any problems.
It's not a logitech but a cheap generic webcam.
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PostPosted: Wed 09 Mar 2011, 18:55    Post subject:  

xfe_staticFOX-1.32.1-i486-fr.pet was only 750 ko.

ftp://download.tuxfamily.org/toutou/pet_packages-4fr/431/xfe_staticFOX-1.32.1-i486-fr.pet

Run ok with 253
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PostPosted: Wed 09 Mar 2011, 18:56    Post subject:  

playdayz wrote:
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2/ No WMA LossLess support.

live, Will VLC, Audacious, or Aqualung in PPM play WMA Lossless?

beep media player will with the wma plugin.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=568762650&t=47670
If you need it, next time I'm running luci, I'll compile it or you can, if you like.
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PostPosted: Wed 09 Mar 2011, 19:14    Post subject:  

playdayz wrote:
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Lucid Puppy 5.2 and the recent devlopment builds are using an increasing number of programs and libraries taken directly from the latest Ubuntu versions

It doesn't really affect your main point Jades, but I think Lucid 5.0 would have had the most purely Ubuntu packages, and Lucid 5.2.1 will have the most packages compiled in Puppy!

I should have clarified that while Lupu up to and including 511 had taken all of their Ubuntu stuff from Lucid whereas 52x includes some newer things from Ubuntu Maverick and Natty.

The suspicion is that one or both of those dropped support for platforms older than "i686" which would explain why certain more... experienced systems can encounter problems while newer hardware doesn't.

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PostPosted: Wed 09 Mar 2011, 19:41    Post subject:  

playdayz wrote:
Jades wrote:
When it comes to the release of Lupu 521 we should really have all of the backdrops that were present in Lupu 511 and Lupu 520 as well as any new ones - this will prevent backdrop file not present errors.

Thanks for tracking that down.

Kudos to bigpup for sparking the idea and then testing it for me.

playdayz wrote:
Yikes though, that might be a lot of backgrounds. I wasn't planning for this.

We only need the ones from Lupu 511 and 520. Thinking about it, we may only need to match with 520.

An alternative is to have the upgrade routine check if the backdrop exists and force use of default.jpg if it doesn't - implementing that may be non-trivial however.

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