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chrismt


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PostPosted: Sun 29 May 2011, 16:23    Post subject:  

I wish Puppy Lucid had a very good MAC Address Changer..which can also be set to randomize Mac address during start up

That would be cool....
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PostPosted: Sun 29 May 2011, 17:20    Post subject:  

I thought MAC addresses were hard coded and couldn't be changed?
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PostPosted: Sun 29 May 2011, 18:24    Post subject:  

chrismt wrote:
I wish Puppy Lucid had a very good MAC Address Changer..which can also be set to randomize Mac address during start up

That would be cool....

I plan to make just that, and it will go here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=64216
Give me a day or so..

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PostPosted: Sun 29 May 2011, 20:00    Post subject:  

Plenty out there.

http://www.mydigitallife.info/how-to-change-or-spoof-mac-address-in-windows-xp-vista-server-20032008-mac-os-x-unix-and-linux/

http://whatismyipaddress.com/change-mac

http://www.technitium.com/tmac/index.html

http://download.cnet.com/SMAC-MAC-Address-Changer/3000-2085_4-10536535.html

http://www.ghacks.net/2009/03/14/mac-address-changer/

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PostPosted: Sun 29 May 2011, 21:42    Post subject: SAMBA on PUP525  

rcrsn51 wrote:
... I checked my copy of Lupu 525 and the file /etc/samba/smb.conf is where it should be.
Let me describe this more appropriately.

I am running the same LiveCD that was tested monts age. Soneone has changed the system so that when the SAMBA 3.5.6.PET is installed via the PPM it NOW installed a corrupted cross-link subsystem. This shouldn't have happened, but somehow it did.

I went back to review what was tested months ago with the PUP525 + SAMBA 3.5.6 PPM PET combination. This did NOT happen then. I believe also, I may have posted erarlier that all was well with SAMBA 3.5.6. Pet on PUP525.

Something has disrupted things. And, I am asking for assistance in correcting the PET so that it will function normallly. I can then complete some documentation that I am trying to update.

Thanks in advance @Rcrsn51 if you can fix this problem with SAMBA 3.5.6. Or, maybe you can assist Playdayz in correction.

Hope this helps

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PostPosted: Sun 29 May 2011, 22:10    Post subject: Re: SAMBA on PUP525  

gcmartin wrote:
Soneone has changed the system so that when the SAMBA 3.5.6.PET is installed via the PPM it NOW installed a corrupted cross-link subsystem. This shouldn't have happened, but somehow it did.

I cannot duplicate this problem. I did a fresh frugal install of Lupu525 and installed the samba-3.5.6-lucid.pet from ibiblio. The smbclient program found the file /etc/samba/smb.conf and worked correctly.

I also looked inside the PET and could see no problems with cross-linking.
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PostPosted: Mon 30 May 2011, 08:25    Post subject:  

sc0ttman wrote:
chrismt wrote:
I wish Puppy Lucid had a very good MAC Address Changer..which can also be set to randomize Mac address during start up

That would be cool....

I plan to make just that, and it will go here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=64216
Give me a day or so..


Thats great! Take a week not a day or so Razz
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gcmartin

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PostPosted: Mon 30 May 2011, 13:54    Post subject: Re: SAMBA on PUP525  

Rcrsn51 wrote:
... I also looked inside the PET and could see no problems with cross-linking.
@Rcrsn51, THANKS!
Your testing has helped me understand what the problem is in the PET a little better.

Your SAMBA installation is using the wrong smb.conf. IT is in the wrong library. That's the reason I had in my notes to re-write the documentation. That smb.conf comes with PUP525. Before installing full SAMBA, that smb.conf is to be deleted. Then, you're suppose to create/replace/copy your smb.conf definition into /etc/opt/samba/smb.conf. Then, SAMBA will have the consistency needed for its commands to work properly. When I get a little more experience in PET creation, I hope to resolve the litle descrepencies that occur when the PET is added to the base Linux system. They are minor and I will continue to address them thru documentation until I get more experience.

Samba, as you already know, provide a utility to review resources that are being share over the LAN. The SMBCLIENT is the utility that I have been using for years from a terminal window to determine if the local PC with SAMBA is sharing properly.

In SAMBA 3.5.6 PET from PPM, confusion surfaces when using that command after you have set the configuration properly (/etc/opt/samba/smb.conf).

When the command is run from a console you get error messages which caused me concerns that SAMBA was corrupted.
Code:
# smbclient -L  -U%
params.c:OpenConfFile() - Unable to open configuration file "/etc/samba/smb.conf":
   No such file or directory
smbclient: Can't load /etc/samba/smb.conf - run testparm to debug it
Connection to -U% failed (Error NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME)
I had NOT noticed this error before. After your posting on this thread, I examined a little further using this command and found that proper server behavior IS, in fact, working properly even though you get an error message, as follows:
Code:
# smbclient -L localhost -U%
params.c:OpenConfFile() - Unable to open configuration file "/etc/samba/smb.conf":
   No such file or directory
smbclient: Can't load /etc/samba/smb.conf - run testparm to debug it
Domain=[OIC-CORP] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.5.6]

   Sharename       Type      Comment
   ---------       ----      -------
   homes           Disk     
   Downloads       Disk     
   IPC$            IPC       IPC Service (Samba 3.5.6)
   pdf_writer      Printer   PDF
   CUPS-PDF        Printer   CUPS-PDF
Domain=[OIC-CORP] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.5.6]

   Server               Comment
   ---------            -------
   INVASIONTRAP         InvasionTrap server (Samba, Ubuntu)
   PUP525-PWRSPEC2      Samba 3.5.6

   Workgroup            Master
   ---------            -------
   Your_Workgroup       INVASIONTRAP
In the future, with the next update to Puppy's implementation, maybe some of the misleading messages will disappear. (fingers crossed)

In any event, everyone should expect an update to Simply Teaching Puppy to SAMBA document. It, for the moment, will show those misguide messages that are gotten.

SAMBA 3.5.6 PET is working and sharing! And performs its services for sharing as it should! The error messages are misguiding.

Hope this helps

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PostPosted: Wed 01 Jun 2011, 04:19    Post subject:  

Quote:
The error messages are misguiding.

There are two packages involved here and each uses its own smb.conf. There is no reason to delete either configuration file.

The Samba CLIENT package that comes with all recent Puppies uses /etc/samba/smb.conf. Because it is a CLIENT, almost all of the SERVER configuration information in the file is irrelevant. However, smbclient is also used by CUPS to access a Windows shared printer. So deleting its smb.conf could have negative side effects.

If you install a Samba SERVER package, it will use whatever smb.conf was declared at compile-time. There is no conflict with an existing CLIENT smb.conf located elsewhere. For example, Samba-TNG keeps its smb.conf in an entirely different location and there are no problems.
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PostPosted: Wed 01 Jun 2011, 09:22    Post subject:  

Here is the latest Sylpheed 3.1.1 compiled in Lucid 5.2.5.

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/pet-packages-lucid/Sylpheed-3.1.1-lucid525.pet
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gcmartin

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PostPosted: Wed 01 Jun 2011, 13:12    Post subject:  

rcrsn51 wrote:
If you install a Samba SERVER package, it will use whatever smb.conf was declared at compile-time. There is no conflict with an existing CLIENT smb.conf located elsewhere. For example, Samba-TNG keeps its smb.conf in an entirely different location and there are no problems.
There is some accuracy with what you say that I agree with and there is some logic here that I disagree with.

I did not build the packages, here, for SAMBA. Now that you have raise an issue, here let me clarify for all readers who might read this.

First, YES, all PUPs do come with a feature from the FULL SAMBA (SAMBA.ORG) service that has been associated with Linux for almost 20 years now. Further, CUPS and Full SAMBA have been in lock-step since the inception of CUPS. Those 2 groups has always worked together to bring about the services to the LInux community that they deliver. These are 2 very seasoned products which continue to deliver stable services to the LInux community.

SMBClient IS A FEATURE OF FULL SAMBA! And it is the one item that full SAMBA provides that exist in all PUPs.

What has happened in Puppyland, is that helpful people have produced some addtions to PUPs in the form of PET/SFSs for the "full" SAMBA product. They truly deserve my award for there work and effort in helping.

But, there appears to be a deliberate effort to work around the existing SMBclient and its folder use versus embracing in and putting it where it should be....in the SAMBA folder. I understand why this is done. It has to do with a current PET that is also distributed with PUPs (differeent topic) that uses the SMBclient.

So, what needs and should happen is that there should be a "base" guideline for all SAMBA PETs/SFSs such that they include/embrace/replace the existing SMBclient with the one that comes with the SAMBA.ORG SAMBA. This, in my humble opinion is the primary reason why SAMBA keeps getting overlooked/lost/corrupted/etc from not just release to release of PUPs, but also from the differening versions. (notwithstanding that there are external library changes which can affect an PET/SFS generation and use within PUPs).

Sorry @Rcrsn51, I do respect your work as you know, but this explanation you give is begging the issue as oppose to addressing it as it rightfully should be.

As reported, I fully intend to update the full SAMBA installation document, 1st, then I will set on the task of learnig how to compile and generate a SAMBA PET for 32bit PUP525 that takes into account a proper method of inserting itself into the system, without, these comfusing error messages that will mislead any newbie. (I have always felt that telling the user via a document to ignore explicit error messages is NOT an answer anyone should be conveying....but, until I can address it or until someone else steps forward and builds SAMBA 3.5.8 taking into account appropriately, we have a system whose messages are kinda misleading.)

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PostPosted: Wed 01 Jun 2011, 13:23    Post subject:  

gcmartin wrote:
As reported, I fully intend to update the full SAMBA installation document, 1st, then I will set on the task of learnig how to compile and generate a SAMBA PET for 32bit PUP525 that takes into account a proper method of inserting itself into the system, without, these comfusing error messages that will mislead any newbie.

Fair enough. But my point was that the error messages only appear if you delete /etc/samba/smb.conf, which you don't need to do.
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PostPosted: Wed 01 Jun 2011, 17:06    Post subject:  

Here is SMplayer 0.6.9-4. It is the latest version--I took it from Ubuntu Oneiric. It has all the themes and translations--my reasoning is that if someone wants it enough to install from PPM then they get the full package.
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/pet-packages-lucid/SMplayer-0.6.9-4-lucid525.pet

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BTW, I trust you Samba guys will tell me when there is something new that should go into the PPM Wink
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PostPosted: Wed 01 Jun 2011, 17:09    Post subject: serial mouse?
Subject description: mouse does not work
 

I have installed Puppy 4.31 on my amd k6-2/450mhz with 256mb ram and all works fine.
But I will try newer versions from time to time...
The main trouble I have is that mostly serial mouse does not work if desktop is loaded.
In Lucid 5.25 also I can not switch with keyboard to >Do not save to file< at the end of session.
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PostPosted: Wed 01 Jun 2011, 23:19    Post subject:  

New version of Pmusic with bug fixes.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=529603#529603
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