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The Official Release of Lucid 5.25 (Lucid Five Twenty-Five)
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wuxiandianzi
 Joined: 28 Apr 2009 Posts: 134 Location: china |
[quote="playdayz"]This is the Official Release of Lucid Puppy 5.25. Lucid Five Twenty-Five [quote] to playdayz HI playdayz Ifind that big bugs in puppy 5.25 I have 3 partions"sda1 sda2 sda3 "all with ext3 farmat. I have installed it on sda1 with grub. It can boot well ,but can not load savefiles. this some thing in init that not seache ext3 hdd. I do not know why. It can load savefile on fat/ntfs/fat32. only not on ext3/ext2 Last edited by wuxiandianzi on Thu 14 Apr 2011, 02:43; edited 1 time in total |
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Luluc
 Joined: 16 Mar 2011 Posts: 200 |
You bring up several interesting points.
Sorry, but that is a lame excuse. Read about it. It is not a difficult concept. If you want to use Linux, you will have to read and learn. Sorry, no other way. The same applies to Windows, only users tend to find that more acceptable on Windows. They don't have to learn system basics, but they have no problem trying dozens of system utilities and learning obscure tricks with the Registry. That's a psychological barrier that you must overcome if you want to use Linux. Read more about Linux. Read about chroot. It's not difficult. For this and other reasons, I am against removal of local man pages in Puppy. A linux user must have man pages. The ones that come with the program, not a random version found by Google and I'm Feeling Lucky! At least, we should have the option.
That is a very good point. For that reason, I like to run as root, but I don't like to run a full browser such as Firefox as root. That is inviting trouble. Puppy should provide that Firefox or Seamonkey run as some other user, probably "spot". That is not absolutely necessary, though. I used Windows 95 and 98 from 1996 to 2005. That's right, I still used Windows 98 in 2005, when I migrated to Linux. No XP. I used Internet Explorer for a long time, then moved on to Firebird, which later became Firefox. I NEVER got infected. Never. How? A combination of Firewall, script-disabling and smart behavior. I knew what I was doing. I disabled scripting and I knew better than to visit certain sites. When I did, I would use special tools. I had no firewall up to 2000, proving that you don't need a firewall to be protected from remote attacks. I had no services running, so there was no point of entry. I have been using Proxomitron, Privoxy and/or NoScript since about 1999. That also kills a lot of malware right at the source. I am one who can afford to run the browser as root, I know what I'm doing. But that doesn't mean I am invulnerable. One day I may have some real bad luck, too.
That is something that bothers me about Puppy. A lot of additional software (pet packages) is shared here informally. You need help from other people to get something working. Who audits that software? Who can assure us it is not infected? The answer is, of course, no one. That is one of the reasons why I didn't adopt Arch Linux. They say there is some kind of "circle of trust" going there, but I am very hesitant about that.
The more you read, the less confused you should be. Sooner or later you reach the point where everything or most of it begins to make sense. You will never reach that point if you refuse to read. You shall always be held hostage by companies that are willing to hold you hand and get everything done for you, not necessarily with the results you expect. Let me tell you this: Puppy Linux is an excellent place for you to learn. My first Linux distro was Peanut Linux in 2000. It was meant to be very small, it was hacked in many ways, it was awesome, it had a small community where people were very friendly and helpful and the distro creator gave us a lot, lot of attention in the forum. That was when I learned the most. That direct contact with the entrails of a distro is excellent. Keep hanging around here and using Puppy if you can, it's an excellent school. |
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bigpup
 Joined: 11 Oct 2009 Posts: 3687 Location: Charleston S.C. USA |
How did you install Puppy 5.25? Does it make a save file on shutdown? Are there other save files on computer? |
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James C
 Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 4742 Location: Kentucky |
For what it's worth, I have 3 frugal installs of 525, all on ext 3 partitions, and no problem with making or detecting save files. |
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wuxiandianzi
Joined: 28 Apr 2009 Posts: 134 Location: china |
bigpup: James C: I install puppy by frugal on ext3 hdd with grub.all seems run well and can save lupusave.sfs in sda1 when shutdown.but it will not load savefile whenm boot again. There is no other savefile in hdd. |
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tasmod
 Joined: 04 Dec 2008 Posts: 1459 Location: North Lincolnshire. UK |
Please guys take the security discussion to the Forum 'Security' section. I doubt if any dev will respond with software the way you are going on. _________________ Rob - The moment after you press "Post" is the moment you actually see the typso  |
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Lobster
Official Crustacean  Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 15109 Location: Paradox Realm |
That can be done. My GROWL program does it. http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=335216#335216 Fatdog does it. Will add it to the features of 5.3 http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Puppy53 _________________ Puppy WIKI |
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Terryphi
 Joined: 02 Jul 2008 Posts: 698 Location: West Wales, Britain. |
+1 |
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James C
Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 4742 Location: Kentucky |
Me too. |
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wuwei
 Joined: 15 Sep 2007 Posts: 739 Location: de |
Please post content of /boot/grub/menu.lst The problem might be in there. |
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maik.murks
 Joined: 28 Mar 2011 Posts: 331 Location: at home, at work or on holidays |
LOL |
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ICPUG
Joined: 24 Jul 2005 Posts: 1278 Location: UK |
This thread was started to provide the interaction with the community needed to develop the lucis towards Lucid 5.2.5. That task is complete. Playdayz has gone. Can we now respect that and stop using this thread. The discussions now going on here are more suited elsewhere. Bugs can be reported to the 5.2.5 bug thread in the bugs forum. Security issues in Puppy can be discussed in the security forum. I suggest Randsec starts a thread there and we can really thrash it out. As to what should be in the next Puppy it is all hot air until we have a developer to take the helm and guide the community to its next goal. When that person appears then I hope they will start a thread and involve the community as much as Playdayz did. With that I say: All hail to Puppy 5.2.5 All hail to Playdayz, 01micko All hail to the contributors |
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01micko
 Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 7019 Location: qld |
Thanks ICPUG (and I'm sure I speak on behalf of Larry aka playdayz) For those concerned... Puppy has "superscan" network scanner.. Puppy has the command "netstat" These can be used to assess your vulnerability. Search if you like. With Puppy comes Power. You can use it. Fear not. _________________ keep the faith ..  |
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nooby
Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 9387 Location: SwedenEurope |
+1 to all of you 
I am all for that security should be talked about under that banner. I am sorry if I failed to live up to expectations . _________________ I'm a noob so I use Google Search of Puppy Forum |
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Brown Mouse
 Joined: 09 Jun 2009 Posts: 435 Location: Tenerife Canary Islands |
I saw a similar problem when installing 525 to an older Dell Laptop. It created a savfile at shutdown but never found or loaded it when rebooting. In the end I turned to 511 and that worked fine on that particular machine. |
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