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Posted: Sat 02 Apr 2011, 20:06
by playdayz
Now... 525 would just be perfect if one of the knowledge boys (girls) could get us a really nice 'SCREENSAVER' for the PPM
I agree with that.

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... -Lucid.pet
Here's Chromium 12, a daily build from today. Were people having trouble running Chromium? This one works for me in Lucid 5.2.5. Like Iron 10, Chromium 12 seems to have its own video codecs, ffmpeg this time instead of libavcodec, so both would be worth trying for video junkies. First impressions, I would say that Iron 10 seems faster.
What could be changed that made it go into panic when 257 never did go into panic. is it totally random then or what?
Like Charlie6, almost always when I get kernel panic it is because of a bad CD or a CD that my old CD drive can't read 100% of the time. And that could write a bad lupu-525.sfs to a frugal install.

Issue Audio Driver Lucid 5.25

Posted: Sat 02 Apr 2011, 21:03
by den999
Hi everybody,

I am pretty new... so could be a trivial question !

I am running Lucid Puppy 5.25 through a USB pen drive.

I have a Samsung SF310 laptop which has "hda-intel Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition" as per the output of alsa sound config tool.

I follow the steps of the Alsa tool / reboot / but still have no sound.

Does anyone would see the problem ?

Thanks in advance for any answer.

Posted: Sat 02 Apr 2011, 21:38
by marco07
Hello Folks:
I have installed 5.25. So far so good. I have removed a few applications including Abiword, gnumeric and home banking, since I use libre office most times. The menu still shows the help files for these removed applications.
How can I remove the help files? They do not show up in "Remove Builtin Packages" list.
Thank you!

Posted: Sat 02 Apr 2011, 22:02
by playdayz
Abiword, gnumeric and home banking, since I use libre office most times. The menu still shows the help files for these removed applications.
The easiest thing marco07 is to go to the directory /usr/share/applications and delete the files abiword_help.desktop, etc. Then when you restart the X server the menus will automatically be fixed, or you can run the command 'fixmenus'.

Those menu entries are nothing but the browser going to the Help site.

Posted: Sat 02 Apr 2011, 22:22
by playdayz
What would I do if I had sound troubles? (Let’s collaborate on this and prepare some Help for anyone with some troubles. Thanks.)

0. As strange as it sounds, wait a minute and a half after you boot up. We have had two reliable reports that this sometimes helps.

1. Right-click volume icon in system tray and choose Full Window--then make sure everything plausible is checked and turned up (Front, Main, PCM, etc.). It's different on each sound card.

2. If #1 did not work, I would reboot with the pfix=ram option, so that nothing I had done previously would cause trouble. After booting, try #1 again. Do not use alsawizard yet.

3. If no sound, open Menu -> Multimedia Tools -> Alsamixer (alsamixer, not alsawizard). Press F6 and that will show you what sound devices have been detected and configured. If yours is not the top one then arrow down and click it, then make sure everything plausible is turned up. I have to do this with my “second

Posted: Sat 02 Apr 2011, 22:25
by marco07
playdayz wrote:
Abiword, gnumeric and home banking, since I use libre office most times. The menu still shows the help files for these removed applications.
The easiest thing marco07 is to go to the directory /usr/share/applications and delete the files abiword_help.desktop, etc. Then when you restart the X server the menus will automatically be fixed, or you can run the command 'fixmenus'.

Those menu entries are nothing but the browser going to the Help site.
All done.
Thanks playdayz!

Posted: Sat 02 Apr 2011, 22:45
by gortonc
Looks like great work guys! I would just like clarification on one point; Does the tool ( Menu > Setup > Remove built in packages) actually remove packages from the save file or only hide them from the user? If so it would seem to make Woof obsolete (for me at least)!

Thanks to all for all the hard work!

Chris

Posted: Sat 02 Apr 2011, 22:47
by playdayz
I think the bottom picture means you just turned Stay-Connect on and the top picture means that it is on and you could turn it off.

Posted: Sat 02 Apr 2011, 22:51
by playdayz
Looks like great work guys! I would just like clarification on one point; Does the tool ( Menu > Setup > Remove built in packages) actually remove packages from the save file or only hide them from the user?
Someone will know better than me but previously it would hide packages *until* you remastered and they would then not be included in the remaster. Remastering is a great way to make puplets.

Posted: Sat 02 Apr 2011, 22:55
by pemasu
Remove builtin packages is best used before remastering
you can really remove apps so that they are not in remastered version.

Posted: Sat 02 Apr 2011, 23:32
by gortonc
OK - thanks. If I understand correctly; remove + remaster = gone!

Posted: Sat 02 Apr 2011, 23:59
by puppyluvr
:D Hello,
Now... 525 would just be perfect if one of the knowledge boys (girls) could get us a really nice 'SCREENSAVER' for the PPM

I agree with that.
I have a hacked xscreensaver Pet, if anyone is interested...
I took my old 5.07 pet and add the compiled binaries from 5.12...
Still complains about running as root..(just click OK)
Previews dont work...( I`ll fix that later..)

The good news:
All the screensavers work..ALL 218 of them, the 18 GL included, even FontGlide...
EDIT..Compiled and tested on 5.11 On 5.25 FontGlide fails perl all the rest work...
I have compiled 5.10 and previews worked, but only a dozen of the screensavers did...I compiled 5.12, but dir2pet made an empty directory.. :evil:
Eventually I will try petting up 5.12 again, but for now the binaries will do...
So I just hacked them into 5.07... :D
It is big...25mb pet...60mb decompressed, because they are ALL there, and the man and locale directories as well...
I will U/L if anyone is interested....
I named it pupxscreensaver-1.1.....
Basically it is all the 5.12 binaries launched from the 5.07 GUI...
Still installs as XScreensaver 5.07, but the PPM sees it as pupxscreensaver...

Back to topic, 5.25 is working flawlessly...
Reboots between other pups dont affect anything, wi-fi still is on automatically, sound persists...
Guess I oughta mention Frugal install....

Lucid 525 testing

Posted: Sun 03 Apr 2011, 01:05
by jabu2
525 frugal installs
run with no problems on these 5-10 year old laptops
Compaq Armada E500 and Compaq Armada M700
Fuji Lifebook 2200/S6210

and on 3 desktops post 2007

using Chrome 7
LibreOffice
no added bling or swapping of wm etc

Wireless and ethernet connections, sound, pcmcia functions (several incl flash disk use) all worked rotb (right off the bat)
no loading or running glitches.

On an even older Compaq laptop from last century with only 128RAM had a few hangups and failures to hold settings between boots etc - Classic214 still better and more solid on that oldie (so not a problem).

525 now seems the standard PL of choice, for any hardware post 2000?

Very very good.
Your LSGC is in the Post (Long Service and Good Conduct medal)

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Posted: Sun 03 Apr 2011, 02:07
by majorfoo
puppyluvr wrote:
I have a hacked xscreensaver Pet, if anyone is interested...
I took my old 5.07 pet and add the compiled binaries from 5.12...
Still complains about running as root..(just click OK)
Previews dont work...( I`ll fix that later..)

The good news:
All the screensavers work..ALL 218 of them, the 18 GL included, even FontGlide...
EDIT..Compiled and tested on 5.11 On 5.25 FontGlide fails perl all the rest work...
I have compiled 5.10 and previews worked, but only a dozen of the screensavers did...I compiled 5.12, but dir2pet made an empty directory.. :evil:
Eventually I will try petting up 5.12 again, but for now the binaries will do...
So I just hacked them into 5.07... :D
It is big...25mb pet...60mb decompressed, because they are ALL there, and the man and locale directories as well...
I will U/L if anyone is interested....
I named it pupxscreensaver-1.1.....
Basically it is all the 5.12 binaries launched from the 5.07 GUI...
Still installs as XScreensaver 5.07, but the PPM sees it as pupxscreensaver...

Back to topic, 5.25 is working flawlessly...
Reboots between other pups dont affect anything, wi-fi still is on automatically, sound persists...
Guess I oughta mention Frugal install....
where can i get copy of your hacked version

Posted: Sun 03 Apr 2011, 02:29
by puppyluvr
:D Hello,
I will U/L it and post a link...As soon as Suz PM`s me and reminds me how to log onto my meownplanet account... :oops:
I think my brain needs a swap file.... :roll:
CRS....

Posted: Sun 03 Apr 2011, 02:32
by xman
Tried 525 from livecd. It's very pretty, but even more icy than 520. My laptop is Quirky machine.

Posted: Sun 03 Apr 2011, 03:30
by rjbrewer
playdayz wrote:I think the bottom picture means you just turned Stay-Connect on and the top picture means that it is on and you could turn it off.
The ok button seems unnecessary and confusing.
Connection can easily be enabled or disabled with right click
on tray icon.

edit;

Also;

Re-enabling stay connect does not reconnect the connection, that
has to be done separately.
Having the disable option seems pointless.

Posted: Sun 03 Apr 2011, 04:27
by puppyluvr
:D Hello,
I dont even bother with the menu, the tray icon works much better for me...
And I have stayed connected thru many reboots....
Better than any other Puppy or Puplet, and on a very recent card/driver...
BTW..Good job guys... :D
This release has exceeded my expectations, and is in fact, my main desktop now...
I am "A bug huntin" but aint finding any...
It got Alsa, Fullscreen Flash, Fullscreen GMplayer, etc..OOTB
Xorgwizard and Xorg.high got persistant 1360x768x24 resolution, with 600+ FPS in Glxgears.
(Wary only scored higher, till I installed drivers, which ruined it..LOL)
And I have not even D/L the devx yet.... :D
Well, back to huntin...... 8)

Posted: Sun 03 Apr 2011, 06:34
by 8-bit
When I want to remove a built in package from Puppy, or for that matter, add one, for a frugal install, I backup the Puppy/lupu/lucid SFS file first.
Then I use editSFS to remove/add what I want using the /root/.packages/builtin/name of package as reference and delete those files.
Upon exiting editSFS, a new SFS is created and then it is just a matter of placing it in the appropriate directory for the frugal install and rebooting.

Posted: Sun 03 Apr 2011, 07:44
by James C
Just a quick update on my continual adventure to get Chrome or Iron working on this Athlon XP box with zero luck.. Finally success. :)
Think I'll pet it up and try it on my old P3 too. :lol: