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gabe · Joined: 03 Apr 2009 Posts: 85 Location: Minnesota, USA

This is on a fresh installation Wary 5.1.1 on my Inspiron 2400. It's slow as molasses. I didn't do anything except install vlc and firefox -- and I'm pretty sure this problem existed well before then, too.

"I'm running kernel 2.6.31.14" <-- How? [edit: from the blog post, I found this: http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/wary-5.1.1/alternate_isos/wary-511-k2.6.31.14-uniproc-ide.iso -- what's the IDE for? Is 2.6.31.14 useful for anything other than modem drivers? Is it lighter? Please advise!]

It's unusably slow, yet I'm barely using it enough to type this response. The text is lagging by up to 5 seconds after I type, the hard drive seems to be constantly swapping as well. This is one of the most common desktop systems in the world -- at least a few years ago. Inspiron 2400, 256MB RAM. The first [edit: it appears second] screenshot was a clean boot, the second [first on the post] is with one other program running (in addition to the terminal with top) -- firefox displaying only this simple forum. Typing this very response.

Any suggestions? Normal Puppy 5.11 and 5.2 fail utterly with a crash sometime after use -- I blamed the kernel. (memtest ran for hours without an error, as did XP).

Billtoo · Joined: 07 Apr 2009 Posts: 1494 Location: Ontario Canada

xfe-1.32.2-i686.pet (X File Explorer) is a filemanager similar to midnight
commander, it also needs fox-1.6.43-i686.pet installed or it won't run.

gabe · Joined: 03 Apr 2009 Posts: 85 Location: Minnesota, USA

The i810 driver is now being used and things seem just a tad better, but trying to "upgrade xorg" from the wizard leads me to install a package called "root" and it obviously fails. (To reproduce: Menu -> Setup -> Wizard Wizard [lol, the name itself is a bug] -> upgrade X drivers -> Xorg7.5).

So it looks like upgrading X is out of the question? And you say in the first post not to use XVesa? Just making sure. (Also, the new xorg could have been causing the random crashes in the past when I used normal puppy 5.11-5.2, so my "wariness" in this regard is justified, no?).

Edit: From the blog post, I found this: wary-511-k2.6.31.14-uniproc-ide.iso -- what does IDE stand for? Is 2.6.31.14 useful for anything other than modem drivers? Is it lighter? Would it for any reason be advisable on Intel 8xx hardware? Is there a pretty decent chance it could address the issue I've been having? Will it eat my pets and siblings alive? Please advise!

starhawk · Posted: Mon 07 Mar 2011, 03:29 Post subject:

Not 100% certain that this is a bug, but I get a very consistent kernel panic on Wary 511 on my hardware... it loads vmlinuz, unpacks init.gz... and splat. Says something about something not syncing correctly... but it sinks all right. Wouldn't say it's the right /type/ of sinking (syncing), but it /does/ sink!

Wary 500 works fine, but neither version (standard or uniproc) of Wary 511 seems to like my system.

System details:
HP Pavilion s7220n Slimline Desktop, Celeron M CPU @ 1.8GHz, 1GB of RAM, 200GB SATA HDD + IDE DVD Burner. Except for the RAM, everything is stock hardware.

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@Gabe: IDE, also called PATA, is the "bus" (wires and protocol) between, say, a hard drive and the mainboard of a computer. IDE has since been made obsolete by a new style of connecting things called SATA. In this case, however, it also refers to the driver-set that Puppy uses in order to communicate with a drive of /any/ kind (confusingly enough, this includes other buses, like SCSI and USB). The "ide" driver-set uses a different set of names for the drives that it sees.

In other words (or if you want to say tl;dr) -- it's something very technical that you probably don't need to worry about. BTW, uniproc is short for "single processor" (uni=one, like unicycle).

Sylvander · Posted: Mon 07 Mar 2011, 04:23 Post subject:

Version of Xfe with necessary FOX dependencies included.

rodin.s · Joined: 22 Sep 2010 Posts: 319 Location: Ukraine

Sylvander · Posted: Mon 07 Mar 2011, 15:55 Post subject:

"Integrated Drive Electronics" = IDE [or ATA-1]

rodin.s · Joined: 22 Sep 2010 Posts: 319 Location: Ukraine

sfs-files linked to mnt_sfs which is not in the system. Maybe it should be linked to filemnt.

BarryK · Posted: Mon 07 Mar 2011, 21:39 Post subject:

Billtoo · Joined: 07 Apr 2009 Posts: 1494 Location: Ontario Canada

lpairs-1.0.4-i686.pet is a memory game similar to concentration where you find matching pictures.

rodin.s · Joined: 22 Sep 2010 Posts: 319 Location: Ukraine

One small thing: mtpaint-snapshot sometimes takes picture of the message. Maybe the gab should be bigger between message and snapshot. I put timeout 9 and sleep 13. (/usr/bin/mtpaintsnapshot.sh)

CatDude · Joined: 03 Jan 2007 Posts: 1355 Location: UK

Hi

I am trying to compile NVIDIA drivers without much success.

I am using: wary-511-k2.6.31.14-uniproc-ide.iso
with these files loaded:

wary_devx_511.sfs
kernel_src-2.6.31.14-patched.sfs

Is this the correct kernel sources for this particular wary,
or is there another file buried away somewhere. Question

I have tried the suggestion that Barry once offered,
that is, to exit to the prompt and issue the following commands:

BarryK · wary-511-k2.6.31.14-uniproc-ide.iso

shinobar · Joined: 28 May 2009 Posts: 2252 Location: Japan

Hi, Barry.
Are you going to recompile the gtk+?
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=65675