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is puppy secure?

Posted: Tue 15 Feb 2011, 08:37
by qkj001
hy. ,i need your answer,,

is puppy linux secure from hacker?

thx,before

Posted: Tue 15 Feb 2011, 10:25
by nooby
The most reliable or correct answer is that if the hacker really want to they almost always find a way to hack into someones computer. If they are really desperate then they buy somebody you trust and them visit you and play the CD with latest music and that music download the spyware or trojan something into your computer. Or they make use of your wireless connection and Wep takes maybe 5 minutes and WPA for some takes 15 to 30 or more depending on how good computer they use. Swedish TV showed that it was possible to hack into a wireless even when it was secured but it was not easy so they need to be really motivated.

Then you have the injection code that comes from 100,000 sites that is plain ordinary sights that they have taken over the servers that host the sites and they can lure you to download things using redirection of lings to Facebook or other sites that many people make use of.

But I guess you ask Puppy in relation to other linux distros that are multi user where every user have to log in or do sudo.


I think it depends on how determined the hacker is. Most of them are doing Ms Windows machines or Linux servers and not hacking into personal computers with linux on them unless they know they can get much money doing it.

so it is not predictable.

Others here can give better answers.

Posted: Tue 15 Feb 2011, 12:51
by Lobster
is puppy linux secure from hacker?
Yes. :)

Detective Inspector Bruce van der Graaf from the Computer Crime Investigation Unit told the hearing that he uses two rules to protect himself from cyber-criminals when banking online. The first rule, he said, was to never click on hyperlinks to the banking site and the second was to avoid Microsoft Windows. "If you are using the internet for a commercial transaction, use a Linux boot up disk - such as Ubuntu or some of the other flavours. Puppylinux is a nice small distribution that boots up fairly quickly. It gives you an operating system which is perfectly clean and operates only in the memory of the computer and is a perfectly safe way of doing internet banking," van der Graaf said.


Turn the firewall on (Lucid 5.2 bottom right, right click)

Puppy Linux with Linux kernel running from CD, can not be hacked
As they are in a burnt (secured) source

Keep your data on an unmounted USB or Hard drive

Need military grade security?
Try all this if you must:
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Security

Posted: Wed 16 Feb 2011, 10:20
by qkj001
nooby wrote:
so it is not predictable.

Others here can give better answers.
yuppz, n i hope hacker not attack me..
:lol:

Posted: Wed 16 Feb 2011, 10:27
by qkj001
Lobster wrote:
is puppy linux secure from hacker?
Yes. :)

Detective Inspector Bruce van der Graaf from the Computer Crime Investigation Unit told the hearing that he uses two rules to protect himself from cyber-criminals when banking online. The first rule, he said, was to never click on hyperlinks to the banking site and the second was to avoid Microsoft Windows. "If you are using the internet for a commercial transaction, use a Linux boot up disk - such as Ubuntu or some of the other flavours. Puppylinux is a nice small distribution that boots up fairly quickly. It gives you an operating system which is perfectly clean and operates only in the memory of the computer and is a perfectly safe way of doing internet banking," van der Graaf said.


Turn the firewall on (Lucid 5.2 bottom left right click)

Puppy Linux with Linux kernel running from CD, can not be hacked
As they are in a burnt (secured) source

Keep your data on an unmounted USB or Hard drive

Need military grade security?
Try all this if you must:
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Security
waow,,thx for your referense..I will try it

Posted: Wed 16 Feb 2011, 23:53
by postfs1
To reedit up to date.

Posted: Thu 17 Feb 2011, 05:52
by Trobin
I suppose Puppy Linux is probably one of the more secure systems around, expecially when run as a live CD. However, I wouldn't suggest that Pu7ppy Linux, or any other OS is totally secure.

As an experiment, I set up a computer running Lucid Puppy 5.20 off of a live CD. Using a computer running Vista, I did a port scan of the Puppy machine and found the following open ports.

Port-----25 Simple Mail
Port----110 Post Office
Port----119 Network
Port----143 Internet Messenging
Port----463 URL Rendezvous
Port----563 NNTP
Port----587 Submission
Port----993 IMAP 4 Protocol
Port----995 POP 3 Protocol

Posted: Sat 19 Feb 2011, 18:49
by Bruce B
Trobin,

I'm surprised. Would you describe the port scanning technology or service, so
I could look into it?

Bruce

Posted: Sat 19 Feb 2011, 20:25
by abushcrafter
PLEASE LEAN what “hack, hacker, hacking, hacked, etc

Posted: Sat 19 Feb 2011, 22:19
by qkj001
[quote="abushcrafter"]PLEASE LEAN what “hack, hacker, hacking, hacked, etc

Posted: Sat 19 Feb 2011, 22:25
by nooby
qkj001 don't feel bad. I was a newbie already 1985 or so not sure then I was very Newbie on Unix 1989 to 1990 and then I gave up on Unix/Linux but I heard about the difference of Hacking vs Cracking already then 1989 and then it was an honor to be a Hacker. Status was very high in our Computer Club. Cracking though we all looked down upon.

So sure he is right but today so many use the words interchangeably that even I whom should know better make your mistake at times.

Posted: Sat 19 Feb 2011, 23:38
by Trobin
Bruce B wrote:Trobin,

I'm surprised. Would you describe the port scanning technology or service, so
I could look into it?

Bruce
I used Blue`s Port scanner V4.0, running on a vista laptop, and plugged in the test computer`s ip address.

http://www.bluebitter.de/portscn2.htm

I scanned another computer running Windows 7 Starter. Puppy is way more secure.

Posted: Sun 20 Feb 2011, 00:18
by Jasper
Hi Trobin,

Web of Trust (WoT) reports http://www.bluebitter.de/portscn2.htm has a bad reputation.

I use https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2 and with the standard firewall setting (plus NoScript and OpenDNS) my protection tests are perfect.

No OS is safe from phishing. Only sensible and conservative user habits and care provide such protection.

My regards

I like to use and rely upon WoT even though I'm aware it cannot be perfect.

Posted: Sun 20 Feb 2011, 01:04
by abushcrafter
[quote="qkj001"][quote="abushcrafter"]PLEASE LEAN what “hack, hacker, hacking, hacked, etc

Posted: Sun 20 Feb 2011, 02:55
by Trobin
Possible. I was using a freeware scanner not treally willing to pay for it. I did try another, freeware Advanced Port Scanner, and gave me two open ports, 25 smpt, and 110 pop3. With the firewall on.