If I get you then. The reason that Ubuntu adopted to use grub 2 was that Debian changed to grub 2?
Here is a typical google result supporting my take that it is Ubuntu that is the reason we have grub 2?
quote
Dream Linux 4 beta 6.3 is using GRUB2 and GNU GRUB 1.98-1ubuntu7 version is known as GRUB2 only. You have to edit GRUB_DEFAULT line ...
www.linuxforums.org › Your Distro › Ubuntu Linux /quote
As you see despite Dream Linux claiming to be Debian it is placed in linux forums under Ubuntu and not under Debian. The reason could be that Ubuntu is seen as a Debian variety.
But as far as I know the complaints about Grub 2 was directed towards Ubuntu and not towards Debian. Could be that Ubuntu is so dominating that Debian got under the RADAR due to them having a 4GB distro and the beginners start with Ubuntu instead.
Crunchbang had grub 1 up until 2010 or so and if I get it started with it very recently late 2010 or early 2011.
quote CrunchBang Linux: 10-20110207 based on minimal Debian 2011-04-23 member snowpine says about CrunchBang Statler, as with most recent distros, uses Grub 2 by default./quote
I used Simply Mepis 2010 and where not aware of them being grub2 so could it be very recently them came out with a later version?
Take this one from Distro Watch. Support my take that distros with grub 2 are Ubuntu based:
Peppermint OS is an Ubuntu-based Linux distribution
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distri ... peppermint
Here is another distro from your list supporting my take that it is ubuntu based.
Kiwi Linux is a modified Ubuntu live CD for the i386 architecture.
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=Kiwi
another example supporting my take that it is Ubuntu based. DW says
Tuquito is a Ubuntu-based distribution
another example that I am not totally wrong DW says
"TurnKey Linux is Ubuntu-based " and "Runtu is a Russian desktop Linux distribution based on Ubuntu."
I had it right about this one too DW says:
Ultimate Edition, first released in December 2006, is a fork of Ubuntu
I was right about this one too DW says:
wattOS is a fast desktop Linux distribution based on Ubuntu.
Qimo 4 Kids is a distribution of Linux, derived from the popular Ubuntu
But I was wrong about this one though
quote PureOS and PureOSlight are GNU/Linux live CDs based on Debian's testing repository. / quote
But I was right about this one DW says:
Pinguy OS is an Ubuntu-based distribution
and this one too
Peppermint OS is an Ubuntu-based Linux distribution
Super OS (formerly: Super Ubuntu) is a modified version of Ubuntu
I had it wrong about this one:
Toorox is a Gentoo-based live DVD which boots into a KDE desktop using KNOPPIX hardware auto-detection and auto-configuration technologies.
I was right about this one DW says:
Trisquel GNU/Linux is a 100% libre Ubuntu-based Linux distribution.
And this one DW says:
UberStudent ("uber" meaning "productive" in Latin) is an Ubuntu-based distribution
I was right about this one DW says:
Vinux is a remastered flavour of the Ubuntu distribution
I was right about
Zentyal ... runs on top of Ubuntu.
and this
ZevenOS is an Ubuntu-based GNU/Linux distribution
and this one too
Zorin OS is an Ubuntu-based Linux distribution
oops I was wrong about this one
AgiliaLinux is a Russian community distribution with roots in Slackware Linux
But how often do we talkk about that one here on our forum?
and this one from Russia is independent too.
"ALT Linux" so I was wrong about them too.
I got Apodio right though, DW says " Apodia ... is based on Ubuntu."
and "Linux Deepin ... based on Ubuntu." and "DEFT (Digital Evidence & Forensic Toolkit) is a customised distribution of the Ubuntu live Linux CD" and " Guadalinex is a Linux distribution based on Ubuntu" and "Linux Comfusion (previously known as Uberyl) is ... an Ubuntu base system"
and "CAELinux is based on Debian, Ubuntu" and "CAINE (Computer Aided INvestigative Environment) is an Ubuntu-based GNU/Linux live distribution" and "Monomaxos is an Ubuntu-based distribution"
oops I got this one wrong
aptosid distribution is a desktop-oriented operating system and live CD based on the unstable branch of Debian GNU/Linux
and "Dragora Based on: Independent"
and obviously Knoppix and Kanotix is Debian but did we not all know this?
"KANOTIX is a Linux distribution based on the latest stable release of Debian GNU/Linux." and this one me wrong:
"Càtix is a Linux live DVD based on Debian GNU/Linux"
And I sure was wrong about "NuTyX is an i686-optimised, French Linux distribution created from Linux From Scratch and Beyond Linux From Scratch, with a package manager borrowed from CRUX"
But I got this one right though DW says "AriOS is a user-friendly, Ubuntu-based distribution "
and this one "ArtistX is a Ubuntu-based bootable DVD "
what about this "Asturix is a desktop-oriented Linux distribution based on Kubuntu" and "iMagic OS is a commercial desktop Linux distribution based on Kubuntu." and "Big Linux is based on Kubuntu."
And DW says about Kubuntu this: "Kubuntu is a free, user-friendly Linux distribution based on KDE's desktop software and on the award-winning Ubuntu operating system."
And "Bodhi Linux is an Ubuntu-based distribution"
and "EasyPeasy (formerly Ubuntu Eee) is an Ubuntu-based distribution for netbooks"
and "Elementary OS is an Ubuntu-based desktop distribution." and "
BlankOn is an Ubuntu-based distribution"
Ooops "Grml is a bootable CD (live CD) based on Debian GNU/Linux."
But got all thes right DW says "Joli OS is an Ubuntu-based Linux distribution." and on this one too dw says "
Karoshi is ... based on Ubuntu. " and this "Madbox Linux is ... Ubuntu-based " and "Linux Mangaka is ... based on Ubuntu"
and "Linux Mint is an Ubuntu-based distribution" and "MoLinux is an Ubuntu-based Linux distribution" and "moonOS is a complete, Ubuntu-based distribution" and "Netrunner is an Ubuntu-based distribution" and surprise DW says "Nova is a user-friendly, desktop-oriented Linux distribution developed by the University of Computer Sciences in Havana, Cuba. In the product's early days the operating system was based on Gentoo Linux and Sabayon Linux,
but starting from version 2.1 the developers have chosen Ubuntu as the base system." What woudl the Gentoo Fan boys say?
And LinuxTLE DW says "starting with version 8.0, the developers have chosen Ubuntu as the distribution's new base system."
"LliureX Based on: Debian, Ubuntu " and "GnackTrack is an Ubuntu-based distribution" and " Greenie Linux is ... based on Ubuntu
But I got this one wrong: "Epidemic GNU/Linux is ... based on Debian GNU/Linux." and this one but is it really fair to refer to a discontinued OS made for SPARK CPU? How many of us here use such? " * Based on: Fedor Architecture: sparc32 * Status: Discontinued" But sure I did not know that was not Ubuntu
And the BSD you cited. I don't see BSD as part of the OS we talks about even if the use Grub2 but sure I was wrong there.
How many hours have I tried to give evidence that I as more right than wrong? Is it not fair to say that most of the distros on that list is Ubuntu based? I admit me was very wrong about Debian. I had not read up on their latest dev them got under my RADAR due to them very big to download distro. I was not aware of that Mepis had gone over to Grub 2 either. So sure seen from your perspective I was very wrong then
But is it not ironic that I actually asked on Puppy forum which distro apart from Ubuntu and TinyCore that could be used install Grub2 on a USB without using Ms Windows or Ubuntu CD due to my Computer have no CD and if they suggest TCL then they have to teach me to get grub2 on it which RobertS does not recommend one use.
I also asked if Knoppix could help me do it. So where where this long list then just a few weeks ago?
I guess it is easier to get response if one say that this can not be done and then a lot of people tell me it can be done while if I ask help me get this done then few volunteer? Just friendly teasing.
So from this very big list of distros with Grub2 installers which one is most likely to be easy to set up in grub4DOS frugal booted on NTFS and then be used to install grub2 to my USB memory stick?