Wary Puppy 5.0.4 (5.1 RC)

[Tui]

I am making this posting from another machine
using a KVM switch between.

After a while in use, I using PFIX=RAM, the machine
locks up and only control is the mouse!

The clock time is at a stand still also!

WHY?

I will do some more testing

Tui

[Billtoo]

I'm running 502 live with a save file, the hard drive shows up as hda1 and the
optical drives are hdc and hdd.

Computer
Processor AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3300+
Memory 1554MB (264MB used)
Operating System Puppy Linux 0.50
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Sun 06 Feb 2011 08:27:22 AM EST
Display
Resolution 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Mesa DRI R200 20060602 AGP 8x x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE2 TCL
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Multimedia
Audio Adapter CMI8738-MC6 - C-Media CMI8738

Sound,network, and graphics were all correct on first bootup.

502 is working well on this 5 year old HP desktop.

[Karl Godt]

choose where to load personal file
0 none
1 sdb1
2 sdb2

The -ide-kernel also has got the newer SATA drivers enabled inside, not as modules .

So if your [netbook]pc has got SATA joints for the drives, then they will show up as "sd" and not "hd"

[shinobar]

Thanks Barry.
The 502beta does not recognize my ide drives (hdd and dvd) but ok with the sata and usb drives.
My both ide/sata is of the Marvell's and is problematic depends on the kernel, but is all ok with wary-500/lupu-510/puppy-431.

PS: got error message when running probedisk2:

Code: Select all

/etc/rc.d/PUPSTATE: line 9: ATAOPTICALDRIVES: command not found

guess '#' is missing at the line 1357 in the init script in initrd.gz.

[peebee]

wary503 cures this problem.....

Hi Barry
Wary 502 has behaviour I've never encountered before on my Thinkpad 600 266MHz 196MB ram 2GB swap partition manual frugal installs.....

The cursor freezes then jumps,freezes then jumps, etc etc etc.

No other Puppy has ever done this....

Thanks for all your hard work for us all
Cheers
Peter

[Tui]

Hi Barry,

I have just had another go with this Betaversion
and all is well at this moment, no lockup!

I am making this post from it now.

Tui

[maddox]

wary-502-uni live-cd
Compaq EN series EFF 350Mhz, working o/b sound chip es18xx module (now detected as isapnp device)
Live-cd : ran alsawizard (/var/tmp snd card database is populated) and runs as expected, many thanks to all involved.

full-install: ran alsawizard for sound, on 2nd boot retrovol pcm was at normal level with pcm1 down to ~50%
no change in /etc/asound.state (if deleted, the file is recreated on next boot with previous boot values, unless alsactl store fnct is used)
..the pcm value survives 1 extra boot before it's muted.

I'm a bit confused here, if asound.state doesn't contain/hold the snd config values, where are they saved/retrieved on next boot ?

on a side note, has anyone also noticed that the ibiblio mirrors have been down for 3 days now, due to a server hd crash, well that's the msg at the bottom of the ibiblio/puppy http screen anyway. Only way to get puppy/quirky is through the official http site & trying other links reports an apache not found directory error !

[Sage]

using PFIX=RAM, the machine
locks up and only control is the mouse!

Normally, KVM switches behave - I use one all the time. However, sometimes they don't - I reported an instance recently. Eventually, I switched the mouse and everything returned to normal. This was curious because the mouse works on all other distros and when bypassing the KVM, so there is something unique cropping up occasionally in an odd Puppy release.
I prefer Genius mice, but, in the recent hiatus, I found Logitech more predictable. I don't care for the poor customer support in Logitech, though. Much rarer to find a misbehaving k/b. Most of my reliable ones are either Chinese clones or ancient non-W-keyed devices. In both cases, avoid anything branded M$ (or Apple!) or fancy units with slanted keys and extra functions (all too easy to accidentally touch extra function keys not designed to work in Linux, although some folks relish the chance to re-programme them).
Wireless devices are to be avoided, of course, as anyone with good experience of them will attest. For example, if the battery goes down at an inopportune moment, you stand to lose an entire treatise... Hopefully folks have already got the message to avoid i.r. ditto.
Any Brit wanting some spare keyboards send me a PM - too heavy to send overseas.

[shinobar]

Also wary-500, has e2fsck but fsck is missing. Is it intended?

[BarryK]

Also wary-500, has e2fsck but fsck is missing. Is it intended?

Thanks for discovering that! I have fixed it:

http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02135

[Billtoo]

Trying out the 503 beta.

Before video upgrade wizard:
# glxgears
946 frames in 5.0 seconds = 188.295 FPS
1000 frames in 5.0 seconds = 198.630 FPS
1020 frames in 5.1 seconds = 200.200 FPS
1000 frames in 5.0 seconds = 198.564 FPS
# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Wary Puppy, version 503

Chip description:
oem: ATI RADEON 9200

Driver used by Xorg:
radeon

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#
After video upgrade wizard:
# glxgears
4735 frames in 5.0 seconds = 946.816 FPS
4738 frames in 5.0 seconds = 947.576 FPS
4738 frames in 5.0 seconds = 947.537 FPS
4739 frames in 5.0 seconds = 947.630 FPS
# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Wary Puppy, version 503

Chip description:
oem: ATI RADEON 9200

Driver used by Xorg:
radeon

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#
Computer
Processor AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3300+
Memory 1555MB (104MB used)
Operating System Puppy Linux 0.50
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Tue 08 Feb 2011 09:43:54 AM EST
Display
Resolution 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Mesa DRI R200 20060602 AGP 8x x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE2 TCL
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Multimedia
Audio Adapter CMI8738-MC6 - C-Media CMI8738

It's working well on this pc.

Edit: The md5sum is correct on the zdrv.sfs of the live cd.

[James C]

Wary 503 live pfix=ram on my old P4 test box. Everything working well on initial boot.

VIDEO REPORT: Wary Puppy, version 503

Chip description:
Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller

Driver used by Xorg:
intel

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#


946 frames in 5.1 seconds = 185.106 FPS
900 frames in 5.1 seconds = 177.462 FPS
900 frames in 5.1 seconds = 176.934 FPS
920 frames in 5.0 seconds = 182.303 FPS
960 frames in 5.0 seconds = 190.309 FPS

-Computer-
Processor : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
Memory : 513MB (244MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.50
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Tue 08 Feb 2011 02:13:35 PM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa GLX Indirect
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : ICH4 - Intel ICH5

-Version-
Kernel : Linux 2.6.32.28 (i686)
Compiled : #1 SMP Sat Feb 5 11:15:25 GMT-8 2011
C Library : GNU C Library version 2.10.1 (stable)
Default C Compiler : Unknown
Distribution : Puppy Linux 0.50
-Current Session-
Computer Name : puppypc
User Name : root (root)
Home Directory : /root
Desktop Environment : Unknown (Window Manager: JWM)
-Misc-
Uptime : 2 hours, 3 minutes
Load Average : 0.29, 0.19, 0.07

Working fine here.

[Billtoo]

Before installing ati proprietary graphics driver:

# glxgears
6934 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1384.197 FPS
6940 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1384.299 FPS
7180 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1435.501 FPS
7180 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1435.417 FPS
7180 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1434.810 FPS
# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Wary Puppy, version 503

Chip description:
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: REDWOOD 01.00

Driver used by Xorg:
vesa

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#

After installing kernel_src-2.6.32.28-patched.sfs + wary_devx_503.sfs
+ ati-driver-installer-11-1-x86.x86_64.run:
# glxgears
40625 frames in 5.0 seconds = 8124.982 FPS
41331 frames in 5.0 seconds = 8266.119 FPS
41329 frames in 5.0 seconds = 8265.742 FPS
41326 frames in 5.0 seconds = 8265.165 FPS
# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Wary Puppy, version 503

Chip description:
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: REDWOOD 01.00

Driver used by Xorg:
#card0driver

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#
Display
Resolution 1920x1080 pixels
Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Version 1.3.0
Monitors
Monitor 0 1920x1080 pixels

OpenGL
Vendor ATI Technologies Inc.
Renderer ATI Radeon HD 5570
Version 4.1.10428 Compatibility Profile Context
Direct Rendering Yes

Sound is working but the retrovol tray icon was muted so I removed it
and control sound from within the various applications or the dial on
the speaker system.

Apart from the retrovol problem 503 is working well on this newer pc.

Edit: the md5sum of the zdrv.sfs is correct.

[James C]

Wary 503 frugal install on my main box.Everything working on initial boot. Installed Firefox 3.6.13 and Mesa....no problems.

VIDEO REPORT: Wary Puppy, version 503

Chip description:
oem: NVidia
product: NV18 () Board Chip Rev A2

Driver used by Xorg:
nv

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#
# glxgears
1220 frames in 5.1 seconds = 240.373 FPS
1180 frames in 5.0 seconds = 235.738 FPS
1140 frames in 5.0 seconds = 227.012 FPS
1240 frames in 5.0 seconds = 245.635 FPS
1200 frames in 5.1 seconds = 236.702 FPS
1220 frames in 5.1 seconds = 240.174 FPS
1140 frames in 5.1 seconds = 225.064 FPS

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1034MB (102MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.50
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Tue 08 Feb 2011 09:08:57 PM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa GLX Indirect
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235


VGA compatible controller : nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x]

Overall,looking good.

[Billtoo]

I booted from 4 gb flash drive install created with the universal installer,
I used probe in xorg wizard.Sound is working and wired network is up.
I rebooted and created a save file on the flash drive.

Next bootup:
# cd /mnt/home
# ls
boot.msg fsckme.flg initrd.gz puppy.sfs zdrv.sfs
extlinux.conf help2.msg logo.16 vmlinuz
extlinux.sys help.msg lost+found warysave-503bill.3fs
# md5sum zdrv.sfs
a3a7c54901fc09b296d284af625041fa zdrv.sfs
#

# glxgears
1970 frames in 5.0 seconds = 390.179 FPS
2020 frames in 5.0 seconds = 403.043 FPS
2020 frames in 5.0 seconds = 403.456 FPS
2020 frames in 5.0 seconds = 403.885 FPS
# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Wary Puppy, version 503

Chip description:
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: RV530 01.00

Driver used by Xorg:
radeon

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#
I used the video upgrade wizard to download and install the mesa DRI
and when it downloaded and installed the pet I restarted x:

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Wary Puppy, version 503

Chip description:
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: RV530 01.00

Driver used by Xorg:
radeon

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video

# glxgears
unknown chip id 0x71c2, can't guess.
libGL warning: 3D driver returned no fbconfigs.
libGL error: InitDriver failed
libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering
1970 frames in 5.0 seconds = 393.329 FPS
2020 frames in 5.0 seconds = 402.813 FPS
2020 frames in 5.0 seconds = 403.107 FPS
#

The graphics card in this pc is an ati radeon x1600 pro which isn't supported
with the new ati driver and it won't work with mesa dri pet, my older ati
radeon 9200 pro works with the mesa dri pet (previous message), so I'm sol with
this card I guess when it comes to faster graphics.

Display
Resolution 1440x900 pixels
Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Version 1.3.0
Monitors
Monitor 0 1440x900 pixels

OpenGL
Vendor Mesa project
Renderer Mesa GLX Indirect
Version 1.4 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.2)
Direct Rendering No

Edit: the x1600 pro in this pc is a pcI express card, the 9200 pro in the older HP pc is an agp card if that makes a difference with kernel modules (guessing, over my head )

Edit:
This is from Lighthouse pup 502 on the computer with the x1600 pro card:
<root> ~
bash-4.1# glxgears
14140 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2827.825 FPS
14937 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2987.340 FPS
14939 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2987.634 FPS
14865 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2972.961 FPS
<root> ~
bash-4.1# report-video
Lighthouse Pup, version 5.02-G on Wed 9 Feb 2011

Chip description:
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: RV530 01.00
ATI Radeon X1600

X Server: Xorg
Driver used: radeon
Video mode used by Xorg: 1440x900 Depth: 24
current xrandr mode: 1440x900 60.7 + 75.0 59.9

...the above also recorded in /tmp/root/ as report-video,
and archived with xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log as report-video-full.gz
<root> ~
bash-4.1#

OpenGL
Vendor DRI R300 Project
Renderer Mesa DRI R300 (RV530 71C2) 20090101 x86/MMX/SSE2 TCL
Version 1.5 Mesa 7.8.1
Direct Rendering
Yes

[scsijon]

Found a problem with a 500 frugal to 502 upgrade.

Booted with 502 cdrom on my test box with wary5 (frugal)
it found the savefile for 500 and I selected it
it said it wanted to copy the 502 files across to the savefile partition
I said yes
it said it was doing so, cdrom flashed for a while and hd light also flashed
it said it had upgraded the savefile

I tried a few apps, worked ok

rebooted, removed cd, expecting it to come into 502 when I picked the wary5 menu item
it didn't, said savefile was last used by 502, do I want to upgrade to 500
I said no and it started in ram
checked out directory for upgrades, nothing visable, nothing found on a search

rebooted from cd
it started ok as 502
did a check and then search for 502 files
nothing found!

Manually copied the 502 files across to the 500 frugal partition (moved the 500 files to a 500 subdir first)
rebooted, removed cdrom
all came up ok as 502

also noticed a mix of hda1-10, sr0-1, sda-b for devices visable.

over to you I think


will download and test 503 tomorrow am.

[shinobar]

all of my HDD and CDD ide(wary-502 did not detect) and sata are detected with wary-503.

[rjbrewer]

Inspiron 700m; full install.

Like the other versions after Wary 098, this one also has a very
long usb-pcmcia loading count when booting.
It can cause the cursor to freeze on occasion.

Classic network wizard would not make wpa connection;
sns did.

Right click on icons still has menu pop-up glitch on occasion.

[Terryphi]

Right click on icons still has menu pop-up glitch on occasion.

Yes, I see this occasionally.

[rjbrewer]

Right click on icons still has menu pop-up glitch on occasion.

Yes, I see this occasionally.

In relation to an earlier post you made:

With Htop, I find Quirky 1.3 using 35mb ram, while Wary uses 90mb ram
at idle.