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[POLL] Which method do you use to boot and run Puppy?
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What method do you most use to run Puppy?
Live from CD with no save file
4%
 4%  [ 2 ]
Live from CD with a save file on HD
16%
 16%  [ 8 ]
Live from CD with a save file on USB Flash
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Frugal installation on HD
43%
 43%  [ 21 ]
Frugal installation on USB Flash
10%
 10%  [ 5 ]
Full installation on HD
18%
 18%  [ 9 ]
Full installation on USB Flash
2%
 2%  [ 1 ]
Live multi-session CD or DVD
4%
 4%  [ 2 ]
other
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Total Votes : 48

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amigo

Joined: 02 Apr 2007
Posts: 2226

PostPosted: Mon 31 Jan 2011, 16:34    Post subject:  [POLL] Which method do you use to boot and run Puppy?  

I'm just wondering how most users boot and run their Puppy. I know that some of you probably run several different ways, so just vote for your main way of using Puppy, or you can vote for more than one choice (if that is even possible).

Hopefully I've covered the most common ways to boot and run, but if you have devised some other variant pick 'other' and explain how you do it.

It would also be interesting to know where you usually use Puppy -I mean do you use it mostly at home, or in an internet cafe, library or workplace.

Personally, I induction-boot it by holding the CD near a dead badgers head and then access a save file on the badgers NTFS(Not Too F***ing Swift) HD partition. The dead badger also has other distros installed, but I rarely use them -the poor badger was alive when I installed everything, but too much 'multi-booting' using conventional methods has taken a horrible toll on him! Rolling Eyes
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_Mark_

Joined: 24 Sep 2009
Posts: 97

PostPosted: Mon 31 Jan 2011, 16:52    Post subject:  

I had to get rid of my last dead badger, got a bit smelly I now have a new quad core ferret

Can you add a frugal install to a USB HD as that's how I use Puppy or I can use other, whatever

And as it's portable I can use it anywhere, but mostly at home occasional trips to the library
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James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
Posts: 5680
Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Tue 01 Feb 2011, 00:27    Post subject:  

I do manual frugal hard drive installs for testing but my working installs are always full.Old habits are hard to break.
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rokytnji


Joined: 20 Jan 2009
Posts: 1288
Location: Pecos/ Texas

PostPosted: Tue 01 Feb 2011, 01:06    Post subject:  

Full and Frugal installs mostly, with a pinch of Flash Drive frugal installs also. Flash frugal Used for fixing other Linux Distros and for plugging into other gear (not mine). So voted frugal internal Hard drive as there is no option for more than 1 vote. Some use grub4dos and others grub legacy. I abhor grub2. Personal preferences only.

I do frugal/persistent AntiX to external Flash drives also.



Code:
Disk /dev/sdc: 2003 MB, 2003828736 bytes
62 heads, 62 sectors/track, 1018 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 3844 * 512 = 1968128 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xd9980c3f

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdc1   *           1         342      657293   83  Linux
/dev/sdc2             343        1018     1299272   83  Linux

root@antiX1:/aufs/home/demo# inxi -F
System:    Host antiX1 Kernel 2.6.32-1-mepis-smp i686 (32 bit) Distro antiX-686-beta1 10 December 2010
 (beta testing AntiX 11. Which is almost ready for release. )
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aarf

Joined: 30 Aug 2007
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Location: around the bend

PostPosted: Tue 01 Feb 2011, 02:56    Post subject:  

Manual install grub booted frugal on SDcard. i guess thats other. Grub booted is also different to just having one copied frugal instal on SDcard and booting it by holding down esc key and selecting SDcard.
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GustavoYz


Joined: 07 Jul 2010
Posts: 895
Location: .ar

PostPosted: Tue 01 Feb 2011, 03:47    Post subject:  

Manual frugal installations (just copy the files and add the correct entry to the menu.lst).
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stu90


Joined: 25 Feb 2010
Posts: 1401
Location: England. Dell Inspiron 1501. Dpup

PostPosted: Tue 01 Feb 2011, 09:27    Post subject:  

Manual frugal install to internal hard drive partition - i also have a back up USB install on a thumb drive just in case my hard drive dies.
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jamesbond

Joined: 26 Feb 2007
Posts: 2053
Location: The Blue Marble

PostPosted: Tue 01 Feb 2011, 09:42    Post subject:  

Frugal install on both HD and USB (USB flash and USB HD) and SD card. Vote doesn't allow me to choose more than one - so I choose Frugal HD.

Puppy (or any of its variants) is primary OS for all machines - home, work, play.

How I installed - manual grub4dos (grldr) installation (either with bootlace.com, or bcdedit/grldr.mbr method, depending on wither W* co-existence is needed), followed by copying 3 (or 4) puppy files to the appropriate directory. Sometimes I use syslinux as well.

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nooby

Joined: 29 Jun 2008
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Location: SwedenEurope

PostPosted: Tue 01 Feb 2011, 09:56    Post subject:  

Almost exclusively frugal install on the HDD but have also a frugal on two USB for to help neighbors and friends and one year ago I did three full install on old computers to learn how to add frugal install on Grub2 doing full install of Linux Mint and then frugal with puppy. That worked too but some old computers was bad at booting from usb.
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JaDy

Joined: 04 May 2005
Posts: 156
Location: SE PA USA

PostPosted: Tue 01 Feb 2011, 10:02    Post subject:  

I selected "Full installation on USB Flash" but not sure that correctly describes it.

I run LUPU511 from USB flash memory stick with lupusave on the stick.
I turned off the periodic save; save on shutdown is good enough.
I have a swap file on the hard disk.

I'd like to have an option to have file changes stored on the hard disk, not in RAM.
And then, upon shutdown (and using the SAVE button),
save the changes to USB flash memory in a manner similar to multi-session DVD.
Furthermore, a utility to combine all the session saves into a single file,
and to recover file changes in the event of a system crash.

If a swap file or partition is used then storing file changes on hard disk is virtual.
But if system crashes it would be nice to have file changes on hard disk for recovery.

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Laie

Joined: 20 Jan 2008
Posts: 289
Location: Germany

PostPosted: Tue 01 Feb 2011, 15:44    Post subject:  

frugal on hdd solo on two desktops
frugal on hdd dual (with win98) on one desktop
frugal on hdd dual (with xp) on one notebook
frugal on hdd solo on one notebook
frugal on sd-card on a netbook (with win7)
live with savefile on hdd on one desktop
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big_bass

Joined: 13 Aug 2007
Posts: 1747

PostPosted: Tue 01 Feb 2011, 22:36    Post subject:  

Hey amigo

I made a GUI grub4dos live cd that lets me select if I want to boot windows or linux
and the options I use the most

to ram

load save file

run fsck


so I usually boot live cd grub4dos and load the save file on hard drive
I have never uploaded this version since only the grub boot is different

when I do testing on a clean system I boot to ram

*I used to use for about 2-3 years just a frugal on a usb flash
but usb has some unique errors when working with very large files
mostly when compiling so I dont use this anymore

booting live cd gets around buggy bios that doesnt support a USB boot

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duke93535


Joined: 05 May 2005
Posts: 194
Location: California , High Desert

PostPosted: Wed 02 Feb 2011, 10:54    Post subject:  

Generally I use a full hard drive for my long term installs, but I also use the frugal and usb installs for the short term. As a long time user of Puppy, I find full installs easily accessible from my other Linux OSes like Slackware, Debian and Kubuntu.

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Béèm


Joined: 21 Nov 2006
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Location: Brussels IBM Thinkpad R40, 256MB, 20GB, WiFi ipw2100. Frugal Lin'N'Win

PostPosted: Wed 02 Feb 2011, 13:32    Post subject:  

JaDy wrote:
I selected "Full installation on USB Flash" but not sure that correctly describes it.

I run LUPU511 from USB flash memory stick with lupusave on the stick.
I turned off the periodic save; save on shutdown is good enough.
I have a swap file on the hard disk.

I'd like to have an option to have file changes stored on the hard disk, not in RAM.
And then, upon shutdown (and using the SAVE button),
save the changes to USB flash memory in a manner similar to multi-session DVD.
Furthermore, a utility to combine all the session saves into a single file,
and to recover file changes in the event of a system crash.

If a swap file or partition is used then storing file changes on hard disk is virtual.
But if system crashes it would be nice to have file changes on hard disk for recovery.
Are you the one who reported FULL to usb flash?
Unless you know how to do the exotic thing, normal install procedures don't permit a FULL to flash.

Besides from your description, you have a FRUGAL as you use a save file.

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