Dpup revisited

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James C · #31 Post by **James C** » Tue 25 Jan 2011, 00:26

ext3 works fine too....that's all I use.

Did another frugal install , this time on the old P3 test box. Looking good.

#32 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Tue 25 Jan 2011, 00:28

tubeguy wrote:Ayttm required libltdl, got it here:
http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/ma ... 1_i386.deb

Thanks for testing

the reason why that is missing is because I updated during the backend gtk update libltdl.so.7.3.0 or libltdl.so.7 was installed.
Probably a system link would make it work, but I'll compile the latest, like same with the missing lib in abiword, I'll just compile both packages and update it to the next release.
ttuuxxx

#33 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Tue 25 Jan 2011, 00:31

with both browsers installed Htop shows 42 MB of ram used at bootup, but when I only had 1 installed it was 36MB.
I like the low resources thing, probably the reason why I'm taking this project further than first anticipated.
ttuuxxx

James C · #34 Post by **James C** » Tue 25 Jan 2011, 00:40

Missing Abiword lib is here
http://packages.debian.org/lenny/i386/libpcre3/download

scsijon · #35 Post by **scsijon** » Tue 25 Jan 2011, 00:41

sounds more like it that your getting bored in the outside world Ttuuxxx and want to get back into the puppy building thing again

#36 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Tue 25 Jan 2011, 00:54

scsijon wrote: sounds more like it that your getting bored in the outside world Ttuuxxx and want to get back into the puppy building thing again

kind of but, in my outside world, my wife is 40 weeks pregnant and her due date is today, but when she went to the doctors they said the baby's not engaged yet and that she'll have a C-section next wednesday. They estimate the baby at 4KG.
ttuuxxx

Jim1911 · #37 Post by **Jim1911** » Tue 25 Jan 2011, 00:55

Hi ttuuxxx,

I had no problem running dpup-484 on an ext4 partition formatted with dpup's gparted. I ran both a full hd installation and a frugal installation with journaled 3fs save file. Gposil was one of the earliest supporters of an ext4 file system. Please don't drop dpup support of ext4 partitions.

Cheers,
Jim

#38 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Tue 25 Jan 2011, 02:02

Jim1911 wrote:Hi ttuuxxx,

I had no problem running dpup-484 on an ext4 partition formatted with dpup's gparted. I ran both a full hd installation and a frugal installation with journaled 3fs save file. Gposil was one of the earliest supporters of an ext4 file system. Please don't drop dpup support of ext4 partitions.

Cheers,
Jim

Hi Jim this version was based before 484, it was the 476. I don't think it had ext4 added to it. Here's a list of Gparted features.
ttuuxxx

Puppyt · #39 Post by **Puppyt** » Tue 25 Jan 2011, 04:37

ttuuxxx wrote:
scsijon wrote: sounds more like it that your getting bored in the outside world Ttuuxxx and want to get back into the puppy building thing again
kind of but, in my outside world, my wife is 40 weeks pregnant and her due date is today, but when she went to the doctors they said the baby's not engaged yet and that she'll have a C-section next wednesday.

Heeeyy! Congrats to you and MMrrss ttuuxx!
Best Wishes for the Big Day and all the ensuing fun.

ttuuxx - Thanks too, sir, as always, for putting in MASSIVE accomplishments in the Puppy community.

tubeguy · #40 Post by **tubeguy** » Tue 25 Jan 2011, 04:37

ttuuxxx wrote:kind of but, in my outside world, my wife is 40 weeks pregnant and her due date is today, but when she went to the doctors they said the baby's not engaged yet and that she'll have a C-section next wednesday. They estimate the baby at 4KG.
ttuuxxx

Congrats on the upcoming version 2.0.

scsijon · #41 Post by **scsijon** » Tue 25 Jan 2011, 07:42

Congradulations,

Can we expect a baby pic, maybe even in a penguin sleepsuit

scsijon

#42 Post by **BÃ©Ã¨m** » Tue 25 Jan 2011, 19:39

ttuuxxx wrote:
Jim1911 wrote:Hi ttuuxxx,

I had no problem running dpup-484 on an ext4 partition formatted with dpup's gparted. I ran both a full hd installation and a frugal installation with journaled 3fs save file. Gposil was one of the earliest supporters of an ext4 file system. Please don't drop dpup support of ext4 partitions.

Cheers,
Jim
Hi Jim this version was based before 484, it was the 476. I don't think it had ext4 added to it. Here's a list of Gparted features.
ttuuxxx

Nice feature list, but I wonder why udf is always left out.
Would be nice to be able write to CD/DVD RW media as if it where a HDD.

#43 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Wed 26 Jan 2011, 06:31

Thanks for the responses guys, on page one I have a Voters Question. Please vote, its up for 5 days, And only users of this version of Dpup please vote, since really ts about how flash plays with Dpup and Seamonkey/Firefox

Ps No I don't have a penguin baby suite, Wish I did

Never seen one for sale either
ttuuxxx

James C · #44 Post by **James C** » Wed 26 Jan 2011, 06:47

I voted for Firefox to be the default browser but SeaMonkey does seem to be getting much better since making it into the 2 series.

#45 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Wed 26 Jan 2011, 07:29

Hi James

yes I voted for Firefox also, its just has a lot more useful plugins and themes. But I could live with either or, If Seamonkey wins then I'll retheme it.

The next vote will be, should I expand the apps to more of gnome backend or reduce the iso size by removing them and stick to a traditional backend
gnome backend would be more like
epdf <--puppy
evince<-- gnome

Gaculator<-- puppy
Gcalctool <--Gnome

small game <-- puppy
Gweled <--Gnome

lxtask<-- puppy
Gnome Task Manager <-- Gnome

jwm <-- puppy
MetaCity and some panel plus jwm as a alternative <--Gnome

The Gnome apps are way better quality, but at the price of a larger gnome library backend In dpup, This version of dpup currently doesn't run in ram on 128mb systems, where as 2.14x still does, I'm not sure if once I delete one of the two browsers if it will then run in ram or not, probably I would think so. If I reduce the gnome backend in Dpup, I might be able to reduce the overall size by about 10-15MB compressed, but It wouldn't be able to use the Debian repo, due to so many Debian Gnome libs would be removed, but the iso would be around 110-115MB.

ttuuxxx

Brown Mouse · #46 Post by **Brown Mouse** » Wed 26 Jan 2011, 10:00

Seem to be having trouble booting.
I downloaded the .iso and extracted the usual files to a test directory as I normally do but when I try to boot it from grub it says it is unable to locate 'dpup-476.sfs'
Any ideas or will it only boot from a disc?

maxpro4u · #47 Post by **maxpro4u** » Wed 26 Jan 2011, 11:59

Dpup booted fine-frugal install-but there are no drivers that work for my D-Link DWL-G650 wireless card.

aarf · #48 Post by **aarf** » Thu 27 Jan 2011, 04:32

dpup476-03 - copy 3 files to a directory and grub boot.

I'm with dejan. this version has bugs that are already fixed. mostly i avoid this going backwards stuff and the re-finding old bugs, but for you ttuuxxx i make an exception.
ath5 module needed for my wifi and many other newer laptop isn't working. stopped there and was going to junk it but will persist if you do delta file upgrades.
mainly i wanted to test for the blackscreen freeze that started first with dpup. it didn't happen in the few minutes i use it, but will need wifi connection to go do further . yes i know there are pets to get the wifi going but I'll wait till it is in the main iso.
as for the browser i wont be using either firefox or seamonkey so it is MB's i don't need. opera for me. my vote would be for a small basic browser then user choice download of main browser as in other puppies.
but i go with jemimahs do-ocracy idea, the person doing the work makes the key decisions.
best of luck and congrats with the new mini-ttuuxxx

mikeslr · #49 Post by **mikeslr** » Mon 31 Jan 2011, 19:47

Hi ttuuxxx & all;

I'm currently posting from Lupu 520. I downloaded the dpup476.iso, unpacked necessary files into its own directory, modified grub4dos and rebooted. Booted fine, but the first thing I do is see if I can access the internet as I'm on wireless. Lupu ( and others) recognize my controller as being Ralink RT2561/61. dpup476's network wizard only recognizes my ethernet port. Loading each of the included drivers disclosed no active network. On the off chance that the RT pet developed for 2.14x might help, I installed it. No wireless networks were located. Until I can connect to the internet, this is a show stopper.

Because the "old" network wizard sometimes is inaccurate, I also tried pwireless and Frisbee. Neither showed an active network.

mikesLr

Lobster · #50 Post by **Lobster** » Wed 02 Feb 2011, 15:20

Ttuuxxx, good luck with your new babies (human and penguin)

As far as I remember Quickpet was developed by Mick to be
Puplet/wooflet independent. Would it work with a non woof built dpup?
Could not find the right link for that but maybe these tools are of use . . .
http://users.tpg.com.au/01micko/01mickos_tools.html
The latest PPM code is very good and may be sufficient?

Ttuuxxx I seem to remember from using Guys dpup you are using, that it had no Flash video viewing problems that have surfaced (for me) in Puppy Lucid 5.2

I also wonder if some of these will work in dpup?
http://portablelinuxapps.org/

These are the ones working with Lucid (as a guide)
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 865#489865

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should Firefox or Seamonkey be default browser in this version of Dpup, Which works best with flash

Ralink RT2561/61 appears not to be supported