Lucid Puppy 5.2 feedback and bug reports

[playdayz]

I am unable to mount any jfs drives with 5.2.


e2fsprogs was rolled back for older machines, try the one in Lucid Puppy News (link in the first post or from Quickpet)

Cheers

I have tried e2fsprogs-1.41.14-w5-20101224.pet and e2fsprogs_new-1.41.14-w5-20101224.pet found in the ibiblios lucid pets.

No change, jfs mount still not working, pmount(started from the terminal) sais:
"mount: unknown filesystem type 'jfs'"

Smiley, Thanks for the sleuthing you did. This is the e2fsprogs from luci-243. As 01micko said, it makes sense that it would be e2fsprogs. This one was from maverick but as micko also said we reverted because some people had trouble with it. It is not the same as any that you have tried. After installing you should reboot to make sure.

<Add> You might try the jfsutils that are several messages below this first.
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[bigpup]

I am unable to mount any jfs drives with 5.2.


e2fsprogs was rolled back for older machines, try the one in Lucid Puppy News (link in the first post or from Quickpet)

Cheers

I have tried e2fsprogs-1.41.14-w5-20101224.pet and e2fsprogs_new-1.41.14-w5-20101224.pet found in the ibiblios lucid pets.

No change, jfs mount still not working, pmount(started from the terminal) sais:
"mount: unknown filesystem type 'jfs'"

Smiley, Thanks for the sleuthing you did. This is the e2fsprogs from luci-243. As 01micko said, it makes sense that it would be e2fsprogs. This one was from maverick but as micko said we reverted because some people had trouble with it. It is not the same as any that you have tried.

I noticed the Gparted in Lucid 5.2 does not have the ability to do a lot of formats. Is the above why?

[playdayz]

Smiley, What am I thinking. Here is the e2fsprogs from Lucid 511.

[Sylvander]

Within my Lupu-520, the "Open with..." in Xfe doesn't retain the file associations.
Never seen that problem before.

[playdayz]

Thanks for the clue Bigpup. I checked and lucid 5.1.1 was the same.

Smiley, try this one. It is the utilities for jfs. It allows gparted to format to jfs (bigpup's clue), so maybe it will allow jfs to be mounted.

[smiley]

Smiley, What am I thinking. Here is the e2fsprogs from Lucid 511.

Hi playdayz,

I have tried but I am still not able to mount jfs drives.
Did the reboot and jfsutils as I did before.

I don't think this e2fsprogs is the problem(or it can not be solved this way), I have remembered that when I was testing for jfs also ntfs-3g driver would not load(it used ntfs driver instead) due to something to do with "fuse", maybe this could be the problem?

I will try to reproduce that to be able to get to you the full error message.

Is there something else I can try/test to find the source of the problem?

Is there some kind of log to see what were the changes between versions?

[playdayz]

I don't think this e2fsprogs is the problem

I agree now. It is not the jfsutils either. I formatted a disk as jfs and could not mount it. I don't know. I have to think and experiment. I will look at fuse. Thanks.

[smiley]

I don't think this e2fsprogs is the problem

I agree now. It is not the jfsutils either. I formatted a disk as jfs and could not mount it. I don't know. I have to think and experiment. I will look at fuse. Thanks.

I have also done some experimenting...

When you do upgrade from 5.1.1 the jfs mounting functions OK.
I have noticed that in directory /lib/modules/2.6.33.2/kernel/fs there are some directories missing from 5.2 like jfs and also fuse

I do not know anything about internal work in linux, but this is one lead of what is wrong here...

Is there some easy way to do a compare of directories for a newbie(tried meld but produces some errors...), so that I can see what are the differences between plain 5.2 installation and 5.2 over 5.1.1 upgrade?

[playdayz]

You found exactly the same thing I found. luci-242 had a zdrv and all the fs drivers were there, but when we switched back away something happened.

You might try copying the jfs folders to 5.2 and then run depmod and then reboot. I have a jfs partition now so I can test also.

We're close (I hope

[smiley]

You found exactly the same thing I found. luci-242 had a zdrv and all the fs drivers were there, but when we switched back away something happened.

You might try copying the jfs folders to 5.2 and then run depmod and then reboot. I have a jfs partition now so I can test also.

We're close (I hope

Thanks(did not know about the magic word "depmod" ), now it is working.
As you noticed there are also some other directories "missing" from there...

So this is a kinda quick fix, when you figure out what happened I presume there will be a "real" fix.

Thanks again, I have almost all the stuff on jfs drives.

[playdayz]

Thanks(did not know about the magic word "depmod" Smile ), now it is working

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Oh that is good news. Here's what happened. When we were trying to shrink, around the time of 243, I checked a box that said "erase 'exotic' modules that are rarely needed." Guess what, the jfs modules were in that group that got erased. Since you are good, we now have the leisure to figure out the best permanent fix. Thanks.

[smiley]

Since you are good, we now have the leisure to figure out the best permanent fix. Thanks.

From my point of view if this is fixed in the next version is fine by me, but I think it should be checked what else got erased. I think a lot of people use this Puppy linux CD as a quick rescue disk, so it is useful to support as much of the file systems as possible, at least those that are still used, jfs certainly is.

[MinHundHettePerro]

Hello !

On JFS

Sorry, if I'm just coming in from the left here. just been building woof-pups for a fortnight (quite a few of them for experiment, and some kernel builds to go along).

Anyway, just my nooby woof thoughts ;
- JFS module did not disappear by me erasing exotic modules (don't have a jfs drive to test, though).
- in 3builddistro, one is first asked whether to put the modules in a zdrv, and then one is asked whether to delete built modules (to save space), upon which a depmod at first run should be needed.

And now, my confused conclusion , had the JFS-support been there if modules had been deleted (and therefore, a depmod at first run would have been performed)?

Please, ignore if it doesn't make any sense /
MHHP

[MinHundHettePerro]

playdayz

What does it see? What do you see with htop (Menu -> System status -> htop) (how many cores?)[

When i run htop in quirky1.4 it sees all six cores and in lupu520 it only sees 4 cores.

Again, my nooby thoughts !

In lupu520's DOTconfig-k2.6.33.2-27MAY2010-LUPU-SMP-TICKLESS the following is specified

Code: Select all

CONFIG_NR_CPUS=4

while in Q140's DOTconfig-K2.6.31.14-25OCT2010 it is specified:

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CONFIG_NR_CPUS=8

Couldn't that config option be the culprit?

Again, please, ignore if I'm posting out of my league here /
MHHP

[playdayz]

Does anyone have or know of "devices" that worked in 5.1.1 but not in Lucid 5.2?

Particularly that would be net devices such as wireless and filesystem devices such as odd filesystems.

If so, please give this a try: it is some Extra Drivers for 5.2 that were in 5.1.1 but were eliminated from 5.2 in the drive to shrink its size..

[playdayz]

In lupu520's DOTconfig-k2.6.33.2-27MAY2010-LUPU-SMP-TICKLESS the following is specified
Code:
CONFIG_NR_CPUS=4

while in Q140's DOTconfig-K2.6.31.14-25OCT2010 it is specified:
Code:
CONFIG_NR_CPUS=8

Couldn't that config option be the culprit?

Almost certainly, imho. These are from the kernel sources?

Anyway, just my nooby woof thoughts Shocked Smile;
- JFS module did not disappear by me erasing exotic modules (don't have a jfs drive to test, though).

The missing modules did reappear though when I unchecked Erase exotic modules They are in the pet above (but look in 520, they are not there)

[01micko]

I'm keeping track here and posting the most important fixes in the main post.

So far there is
1)the jfs fix, also perhaps if there are other modules missing that may have been present in 51x
2) the unetbootin work around.

Cheers

[bones01]

It's all working well for me. I had some trouble with 5.1.1 with some media programs not working and some missing deps. However, it's all working as it should with 5.2

Haven't come across things that worked in 5.1.1 but not 5.2. Even e-Sword minimizes and reopens, which is more than just a bit helpful.

Haven't tried Gimp yet, and that could be the problem. We'll see.

Good job everyone. Thanks for making it possible.

Bones

[bones01]

Does anyone have or know of "devices" that worked in 5.1.1 but not in Lucid 5.2?

Particularly that would be net devices such as wireless and filesystem devices such as odd filesystems.

Hi Playdayz

I don't know if this is the sort of thing you're thinking of, but the battery monitor (?) on the task bar isn't working. This is the first time I've used it unpowered since installing 5.2 so only just realised it isn't working. Hopefully I'll be finished before the battery is

Bones

[bignono1]

I have a menu problem in jwm, the Openpox wm is ok.
When i go : Menu\Desktop\Desktop Settings, then the submenu does not go to the wright direction, it goes to the left as in the attachment.
Fixmenus did not fix it, any idea?