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Using your LAN to boot MultiPUP on a PC versus HDD/CD/DVD

Posted: Sat 13 Aug 2011, 18:43
by gcmartin
benny7440 wrote:Thanks, gcmartin, for the links! ... If you explain me, how ... .
Sorry for this delay. I just got this.

Really simple to do. @Benny7440 .Check your PM.

Posted: Wed 28 Dec 2011, 07:44
by puppyluvr
:D Hello,
Anybody using this???

Yes Please J, I'm still Keen on the intended inclusion of Me

Posted: Wed 28 Dec 2011, 09:20
by Max Headroom
Also PuppyLuvr Mate, I've been Meaning 2 ask U about including Links 4 Y'r Classic BuddaPups & Budda Dingo, somehow Me iso of 215 got Corrupted, & it just so happens that Y'r Trilogy will Fit Comfortably on a 700 Mb CD, an ideal & Nostalgic MultiPup / Dingo eNLightenment Demo!

Please, Seasons Greetings & Thanx!

:D

Ps I've Also Posted a Message 2 U Over in the Compiz Thread...

Should have mentioned your product in the 2011 high-lights.

Posted: Wed 28 Dec 2011, 21:19
by gcmartin
puppyluvr wrote::D Hello,
Anybody using this???
YES, Yes, yes!

This is a masterful product. And, it, too, is one of new starlings we have in 2011. Didn't mean to overlook this.

Also, for those who havent tried it, not only does this work to make available multiple PUPs in a single ISO, JamesBonds Netboot utility will take the Multi-PUP ISO and present on your LAN for booting by other PCs across you LAN. When this ISO is used, the booting PC has a choice of which PUP he wants to boot from the MultiPUP Menu.

Thanks PuppyLuvr for this product.

Have a look

Posted: Thu 29 Dec 2011, 21:20
by nancy reagan
Here's a link to exton's (exton seems to be an old newcomer ?) listing amongst others Exton's multiboot cd, containing lupu 518 amongst other minilinux's.

Contains also an instruction for installing to usb.

Haven't tried it yet but might interest you ?

http://linux.exton.net/english

Posted: Thu 19 Jan 2012, 00:13
by gcmartin
@PuppyLuvr! Great product, relevant and useful

Please check your PM

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Posted: Tue 31 Jan 2012, 16:16
by Lookinglass360
Hi puppyluvr

Yes !Yes! What gcmartin said and more!
The best way to help Puppy and the community grow
is to share it!
The more versions that can be shared on a boot-able CD/DVD
the better the chances are that a new user will find one that
fits his/her needs.

Why do I use Multipup cd/dvd creator?
I can boot from a Multipup cd/dvd in to any number of “save files

Posted: Tue 31 Jan 2012, 22:53
by puppyluvr
:D Hello,
:) gcmartin,
The thought had never occurred to me!!
Your implementation of MultiPup is amazing and brilliant..
My mind never grasped the possibility..
As a mulitboot CD/DVD, that is a null point, as, if you wanna boot from the HDD, dont put it in... :P Funny huh?? Should be on the label.. To boot from Hard Drive, do not insert this CD...

However, obviously an unanticipated need has arisen..
So a new release is in order...
To do:

1. Enable proper install and savefile operation while running the MultiPup CD/DVD.. Some layering issues prevent some versions of the Universal Installer and Remaster scripts from seeing the Puppy.sfs...

2. Include boot choices for the local HDD, and by request, Memtest86, which I removed for no real reason... 8)

3. Create a GUI for creating the Backsplash images used by Catdude`s excellent "Bootsplash Chooser", so (non terminal) users can have their own images..

4. Create another section to convert everything for USB booting...

5. I am considering removing the "Alien" section... It is, after MultiPup after all... Thoughts...???[/u]

Lookinglass360,
Thank you, i am glad to see use being gotten from it... For me, it is like a frugal install on a CD.. Handy to see which ones support what hardware the best...
Thanks for using it!!. :D

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Posted: Fri 03 Feb 2012, 13:45
by Lookinglass360
puppy luvr

Sounds great!
The only other issue that comes to mind is the drive tray not
opening when running in ram.
As I recall this only happened in the 4xx versions and up to lupu-511.
Can anyone else comment on this?

As for the Aliens, they been probed. Send em pack-en.
It will make more room for pets!

Looking forward checking out any new offering!

Thanks for a Great “Puppy

Posted: Mon 27 Feb 2012, 19:21
by pistoi0
Been trying to make a successful Multipup but can`t get any discs to boot. The error message I get has been reported before (see Jan 18, 2011 above) stalls at grub_ 'Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported'. I am folllwing all the pompts incliding the boot splash step. What am I doing wrong?

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Posted: Fri 02 Mar 2012, 15:49
by Lookinglass360
Hi pistoi0

I have not seen that error message since before MultiPup3.3.
Could you give some more info please?
Like what type burner device used? Type disk used?
Other hardware specs?
How did you link the iso’s?
Which burn program was used?
Which puppies are included?
Were you using MultiPup3.3 on an extx partition?

This ones is a little weird and off topic and may not have
anything to do with your issue, but are you able
to burn a usable Multi-session disk with this drive
and save a session to it and it then reboot it?

The drive I use now works great for making multipup's on
both cd-rw and dvd-r's but will not burn dvd-rw or +rw!
However the same drive will make an Muti-session disk and if
I boot it puppy pfix=ram all is well. but if I try to make an save
to the cd or dvd-r the disk can no longer be seen by either drive on this
computer but will work on “some" other computers but not all!

Just saying I’ve seen a small share of quirky Hardware!

So any info you can give may be helpful in one way or an other!

Even if I can’t help maybe someone who can will see your
reply. Bump

Good Luck its really a great tool if you can get it working!

Posted: Fri 02 Mar 2012, 16:09
by pistoi0
Thanks, Lookinglass360.

I will run your checklist and get back to you with the info later today.

Posted: Fri 02 Mar 2012, 21:07
by pistoi0
@Lookinglass360

Here is the info you requested:

Like what type burner device used?
LG Super Multi
Type disk used?
Memorex DVD-RW
Other hardware specs?
Atom D525MW, 1.8 G, 2 Gs RAM
How did you link the iso’s?
Absolute
Which burn program was used?
Both Burniso2cd and PBurn
Which puppies are included?
Lucid 528, Slacko 531, Exprimo 5x13.5. Akita, 214X
Were you using MultiPup3.3 on an extx partition?
EXT. 2

This ones is a little weird and off topic and may not have
anything to do with your issue, but are you able
to burn a usable Multi-session disk with this drive
and save a session to it and it then reboot it?
YES

Curiously, I seem to be able to get all the elements in an ISO, except a menu list. The menu list shows up as a cogged wheel rather than a file.


Thanks, Lookinglass360, and hope you or another Multipup3.3 user can help me get this going.

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Posted: Fri 02 Mar 2012, 23:34
by Lookinglass360
Pistoi0
I have a lot of hardware around here but nothing close to what
you have.
You might try downloading again, delete the old one and reinstall just to cover those bases.

Just a wild guess!

Posted: Sat 03 Mar 2012, 04:19
by pistoi0
Lookinglass360, did as you suggested and d/l a new copy of Multipup3.3 -- without success. Perhaps you can tell something from my grub menu. Is this similar to what you get ?

# Grub Default Options
default 0
timeout 50
#color light-gray/blue black/light-gray
gfxmenu (cd)/boot/grub/Multipup
title lupu-528.004
configfile /lupu-528.004/menu.lst
title slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI
configfile /slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI/menu.lst
title squeeze-5.X.13.6-SCSI
configfile /squeeze-5.X.13.6-SCSI/menu.lst

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Posted: Sat 03 Mar 2012, 11:44
by Lookinglass360
Pistoi0
Thats what I get as well, so looks good.
Have you tried booting the disk in another machine?
I don’t have much time this morning, but will dig
into this then I get home.

Do you have an external drive you could burn a disk with?
Or perhaps an usb stick to copy the .iso to and burn with another
computer?
Getting a good burn would tell us your drive is not
burning/detecting correctly.
I have three computers that will make an MultiPup dvd-r disk but not
read them?
They will work on “some

Posted: Sat 03 Mar 2012, 13:23
by CatDude
Hello pistoi0
pistoi0 wrote:Lookinglass360, did as you suggested and d/l a new copy of Multipup3.3 -- without success. Perhaps you can tell something from my grub menu. Is this similar to what you get ?

# Grub Default Options
default 0
timeout 50
#color light-gray/blue black/light-gray
gfxmenu (cd)/boot/grub/Multipup
title lupu-528.004
configfile /lupu-528.004/menu.lst
title slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI
configfile /slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI/menu.lst
title squeeze-5.X.13.6-SCSI
configfile /squeeze-5.X.13.6-SCSI/menu.lst
That is only part of the picture,
ie: that is just the contents of : /boot/grub/menu.lst

What do the contents of each of the menu.lst files (indicated in red) look like :?:

I built a quick ISO (using Multipup3.3) with the same ISO's as yourself,
here is what i have in my menu.lst files,
and a quick test in VirtualBox verified things as working OK (using the Run in ram options)


Contents of : /lupu-528.004/menu.lst

Code: Select all

title lupu-528.004 Use Savefile
root (cd)
kernel (cd)/lupu-528.004/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0
initrd (cd)/lupu-528.004/initrd.gz

title lupu-528.004 Normal boot
root (cd)
kernel (cd)/lupu-528.004/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 psubdir=lupu-528.004
initrd (cd)/lupu-528.004/initrd.gz

title lupu-528.004 Run in ram
root (cd)
kernel (cd)/lupu-528.004/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 pfix=ram psubdir=lupu-528.004
initrd (cd)/lupu-528.004/initrd.gz

title Return to Main Menu
configfile (cd)/boot/grub/menu.lst


Contents of : /slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI/menu.lst

Code: Select all

title slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI Use Savefile
root (cd)
kernel (cd)/slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0
initrd (cd)/slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI/initrd.gz

title slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI Normal boot
root (cd)
kernel (cd)/slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 psubdir=slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI
initrd (cd)/slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI/initrd.gz

title slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI Run in ram
root (cd)
kernel (cd)/slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 pfix=ram psubdir=slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI
initrd (cd)/slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI/initrd.gz

title Return to Main Menu
configfile (cd)/boot/grub/menu.lst

Contents of : /squeeze-5.X.13.6-SCSI/menu.lst

Code: Select all

title squeeze-5.X.13.6-SCSI Use Savefile
root (cd)
kernel (cd)/squeeze-5.X.13.6-SCSI/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0
initrd (cd)/squeeze-5.X.13.6-SCSI/initrd.gz

title squeeze-5.X.13.6-SCSI Normal boot
root (cd)
kernel (cd)/squeeze-5.X.13.6-SCSI/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 psubdir=squeeze-5.X.13.6-SCSI
initrd (cd)/squeeze-5.X.13.6-SCSI/initrd.gz

title squeeze-5.X.13.6-SCSI Run in ram
root (cd)
kernel (cd)/squeeze-5.X.13.6-SCSI/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 pfix=ram psubdir=squeeze-5.X.13.6-SCSI
initrd (cd)/squeeze-5.X.13.6-SCSI/initrd.gz

title Return to Main Menu
configfile (cd)/boot/grub/menu.lst

CatDude
.

Posted: Sat 03 Mar 2012, 16:16
by pistoi0
CatDude, thanks for joining with Lookinglass360 in an effort to help me.

Each inside folder menu.lst matches each one that you posted.

I am posting this from a newly burned Lupu 528-004, so it seems my hardware is not fault.

I appreciate both of you for your assistance and hope someone can come up with a solution that will work for me.

Posted: Sat 03 Mar 2012, 22:59
by puppyluvr
:D Hello,
Sorry, have not been around much as of late..
By the message you posted, it looks like the kernel loads, but not the initrd..
Do the folders on the disk have all their proper contents, IE vmlinuz/initrd.gz/pup.xxx.sfs??
You might try
pfix=irqpoll
at the boot prompt..

Posted: Sun 04 Mar 2012, 01:03
by pistoi0
Puppyluvr,

Here is the line you gave me: vmlinuz/initrd.gz/pup.xxx.sfs??
Here is what I have initrd (cd)/slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI/initrd.gz

Here is an example of one of my menu listings:

title slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI Use Savefile
root (cd)
kernel (cd)/slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0
initrd (cd)/slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI/initrd.gz

title slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI Normal boot
root (cd)
kernel (cd)/slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 psubdir=slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI
initrd (cd)/slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI/initrd.gz

title slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI Run in ram
root (cd)
kernel (cd)/slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 pfix=ram psubdir=slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI
initrd (cd)/slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI/initrd.gz

title Return to Main Menu
configfile (cd)/boot/grub/menu.lst