MultiPup CD/DVD/USB Creator

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bigpup · #136 Post by **bigpup** » Sat 29 Jan 2011, 19:11

I would like to recommend this for a download entry in Lucid Puppy Repository in PPM when you get the bugs out. Not sure if it would be considered if not in Pet form.

puppyluvr · #137 Post by **puppyluvr** » Mon 31 Jan 2011, 01:43

Hello,
Well, heres one for testing...

MultiPup-3.3 Pet

The pet installs into /root/my-roxapps and creates the usual menu entry under "Utility"...
On first run, the menu entry opens a configuration dialog allowing you to setup MultiPup in an acceptable location. Instructions are provided...
After exiting the configuration dialog, clicking the menu entry opens MultiPup as usual...If you have installed the "MultiPupPet" from earlier versions, installing this WILL NOT overwrite its settings... It must be uninstalled. If you choose the same location, then the new version WILL overwrite the existing one...creating a new menu entry and rendering the old one obsolete...
A default copy of MultiPup, and the configuration dialog, are accessible in /root/my-roxapps...( Do not run this copy from this location...)

To uninstall, delete the copy from wherever you chose to install it, and run PetGet to remove from menu, etc...

Posted here first for heavy testing....please....
Thanks..
Jay....

puppyluvr · #138 Post by **puppyluvr** » Wed 02 Feb 2011, 22:54

Hello,
And the previously mentioned "bug" was due to my running things from root during testing...
Remember, DO NOT try to run MultiPup from within your savefile....

bigpup · #139 Post by **bigpup** » Thu 03 Feb 2011, 03:07

I know I have said this before, but I strongly suggest that you put the latest version in the first post. The biggest reason for this is that people will not look for a newer version further down the entries. They will go to the first post and download what is there thinking that is it.
This has gotten to be the expected norm for the first post to have the latest download for a program. If the author makes updates then he updates the download in the first post.
You really appreciate this when you go to a program that has 40 plus pages to the topic or 273 pages like some of the Puppy versions.

puppyluvr · #140 Post by **puppyluvr** » Thu 03 Feb 2011, 03:45

Hello,
Yea, that is how I usually do it too...
If this pet proves stable, which 1.0 is, it will be on page 1..
Been changing things too fast to call it stable....
And I wanted to get it into pet form for page 1...
So I`m hoping this is it..

Let me give it a little testing time first...
Jay...

Jasper · #141 Post by **Jasper** » Thu 03 Feb 2011, 04:32

Hi puppyluvr,

I experimented and as a test linked the Linux portable applications DoxBox and Gnote into your pet and sfs sections respectively and they worked perfectly in Lupu 5.2 (which was the only iso I linked to try this test) This is likely to mean extra single-file packages could be used in multiple Puppies.

There may be more ways to use your existing extra folders or possibly even add a new "general" or "portable" folder (or whatever).

My regards

With Lupu 5.2 I could have used the archive-folder-system to achieve the same result, but I have no idea which other Puppies have that innovative feature.

Max Headroom · #142 Post by **Max Headroom** » Thu 03 Feb 2011, 10:15

Hey G'day J**, I'm Testing Y'r Pet & Didn't Realize / 'Xpect that the Aliens were Ltd 2 Pre Defined Choices, coz I've got an iso image of MemTest86 that I Planned on integrating, Oh Well

Thanx Anyway!

Sylvander · #143 Post by **Sylvander** » Thu 03 Feb 2011, 12:17

MultiPup-3.3.pet
Installed and run/tested within Lupu-520.

SUCCESS!

1. Installed OK using the pet file downloaded to my /00 folder and "Open" from there.
It created a new item in "Menu->Utility->General Utilities".

2. Choosing install location:
Need a folder icon/button so as to be able to browse/choose the install location.
Copied and pasted the address = /mnt/home [ext3 partition] and OK'd it.
MultiPup installed OK; folder/file system was created.

3. Instructions understood; they're good.

4. Closed initial MultiPup setup window, and restarted MultiPup using the menu item.

5.
(a) Clicked the button to link ISO's.
(b) Clicked tab = "series 3, 4, and 5", then clicked the optical disk button.
Dialog & ISO's folder appeared.
Used Xfe to symlink chosen Puppy ISO's to /mnt/home/MultiPup/isos folder.
Clicked OK on the dialog whilst the ISO symlinks were showing in their folder.
(c) Activities were displayed; ISO's being dealt with & dismounted.
This finished and I clicked the OK button.

6. Closed the original linking dialog.

7. Didn't link any other items such as PET's or SFS's.

8. Chose bootsplash [after clicking the button].

9. Checked ISO size [542MB].

10. Clicked to "Create your ISO"->Yes->OK.
ISO was created in "dvdsource" folder->OK.

11. Moved ISO & index files to other handy storage location on external HDD.

12. EXIT MultiPup.

13. Burned the MultiPup ISO image file to a blank CD-RW.

14. Booted the MultiPup-3.3 CD.
It worked just as expected. [perfectly]

Sylvander · #144 Post by **Sylvander** » Thu 03 Feb 2011, 19:08

Where should I adjust the timeout in this new version?

puppyluvr · #145 Post by **puppyluvr** » Thu 03 Feb 2011, 20:50

Hello,
@Sylvander,
Glad to hear its working for you..

Need a folder icon/button so as to be able to browse/choose the install location.

Done in next release...

For the timeout, (default 50 sec)...
The "virgin" master menu.lst file is @:

/MultiPup/boot/grub/menu.lst

Later the whole /boot/grub directory is copied to /dvdsource/isos/

Jay...

Sylvander · #146 Post by **Sylvander** » Thu 03 Feb 2011, 21:12

1.
"For the timeout, (default 50 sec)...
The "virgin" master menu.lst file is @:
/MultiPup/boot/grub/menu.lst"
Oops, sorry, didn't make myself clear.
What I meant was the 15 second default timeout at the 2nd boot window, with "Use pupsave" as the default choice.
I normally reset that from 15 to 5 seconds in the /mnt/home/MultiPup/Multipup file, but I cannot find that setting in the new version of the file.

CatDude · #147 Post by **CatDude** » Fri 04 Feb 2011, 10:33

Hi

@ Sylvander

Sylvander wrote:.....Oops, sorry, didn't make myself clear.
What I meant was the 15 second default timeout at the 2nd boot window, with "Use pupsave" as the default choice.
I normally reset that from 15 to 5 seconds in the /mnt/home/MultiPup/Multipup file, but I cannot find that setting in the new version of the file.

It appears that it has not been included in the latest version.

Go inside of the MultiPup directory, and open up the following scripts in a text editor:

Multipup
41ISOs
42ISOs

Look for the block of code like this (in each script):

Code: Select all

# Create individual menu.lst files
echo "title $var$i Use Savefile
root (cd)
kernel (cd)/$var$i/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0
initrd (cd)/$var$i/initrd.gz

and change them to look like this:

Code: Select all

# Create individual menu.lst files
echo "default 0
timeout 5

title $var$i Use Savefile
root (cd)
kernel (cd)/$var$i/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0
initrd (cd)/$var$i/initrd.gz

That will at least sort out the Puppy versions,
but i don't know (as yet) what to change for the Aliens.

Hope this helps
CatDude
.

Sylvander · #148 Post by **Sylvander** » Fri 04 Feb 2011, 15:58

FAILURE!

1. Made the changes you suggested above, but the resulting MultiPup CD-RW appeared to have NO TIMEOUT at the 2nd window where the default was "Use Savefile".
I waited a long time without any sign of boot proceeding, then hit <Enter> and it proceeded normally.

2. Checked the changes after all was completed, and they are still there in /mnt/home/MultiPup/41ISOs and /mnt/home/MultiPup/42ISOs.

CatDude · #149 Post by **CatDude** » Fri 04 Feb 2011, 16:19

Hello Mate

Sylvander wrote:FAILURE!

1. Made the changes you suggested above, but the resulting MultiPup CD-RW appeared to have NO TIMEOUT at the 2nd window where the default was "Use Savefile".
I waited a long time without any sign of boot proceeding, then hit <Enter> and it proceeded normally.

2. Checked the changes after all was completed, and they are still there in /mnt/home/MultiPup/41ISOs and /mnt/home/MultiPup/42ISOs.

Well, i don't know why it isn't working for you,
as it is working for me here. (see pics)
As you can see, in screen-1 it still has the 60 second timeout,
and in screen-2 it has a timeout of 15 seconds

I wouldn't have thought it makes any difference, but i did not install the .pet,
i opened it up and moved the: Multipup-3.3/root/my-roxapps/Multipup/MultiPup
into /mnt/home

CatDude
.

Sylvander · #150 Post by **Sylvander** » Fri 04 Feb 2011, 19:01

1. "I wouldn't have thought it makes any difference, but i did not install the .pet"
Aha!
I DID install the PET.
I notice there's another [original copy of the MuliPup] folder system under /root/my-roxapps/Multipup/MultiPup.
There are files:
41ISOs
42ISO's
In that folder, and these are the original versions, and remain unchanged.
Should these be altered do you think?

2. The above is in addition to the folder system under /mnt/home/MultiPup.

CatDude · #151 Post by **CatDude** » Fri 04 Feb 2011, 19:42

Hi

From what i understand, you installed the .pet
then ran MultiPup from the menu: Utility > MultiPup CD/DVD Creator
this then brings up the MultiPup Installer from which you selected to install to /mnt/home

If the above is correct,
then when you now go to the menu: Utility > MultiPup CD/DVD Creator
that should be running the MultiPup that is in /mnt/home.

That means you only need to edit the three scripts inside of that copy of MultiPup.

I have attached an archive containing the three edited scripts below (with a timeout of 5 seconds),
simply unpack it and copy the three scripts into the directory: /mnt/home/MultiPup
which will overwrite the originals (which you can always get a copy of from inside of: /root/my-roxapps/Multipup/MultiPup)

It should work for you, as i have just installed the .pet myself (and installed to /mnt/home)
then i made a quick ISO image and the second screen has the timeout indicator showing.

CatDude
.

Sylvander · #152 Post by **Sylvander** » Fri 04 Feb 2011, 21:48

SUCCESS!

1. "That means you only need to edit the three scripts inside of that copy of MultiPup"
(a) Big blushes here!

Somehow [due to mind blindness?] I FAILED to mentally register your listing of the Multipup executable file.
Hence I FAILED to modify it.

(b) That has now been done [didn't need to use your .tar.gz file], and the MultiPup is working as it aught.

2. Would it be a good idea to swap in you 3 files to the /root/my-roxapps/Multipup/MultiPup folder to replace the originals?

puppyluvr · #153 Post by **puppyluvr** » Fri 04 Feb 2011, 23:14

Hello,
CatDude,
Thank you again for all your help, suggestions, and answering questions.

2. Would it be a good idea to swap in you 3 files to the /root/my-roxapps/Multipup/MultiPup folder to replace the originals?

Only if you intend to move MultiPup and reinstall it thru the GUI in /root/my-roxapps/Multipup....

The changes, alone with a few others, will be in the next pet anyhow...
Sorry I missed that part during upgrading it...Copy and Paste error....

Never even thought about the 2nd timeout, but set the first at 50 to give some reading time...

So, other than the timeout issue, any problems or suggestions???

Sylvander · #154 Post by **Sylvander** » Sat 05 Feb 2011, 00:21

"So, other than the timeout issue, any problems or suggestions???"
Hmmm, no problems, but perhaps a couple of small tweaks to perfect it.

1. When booting the MultiPup optical disk...
It might not be obvious to an inexperienced user...
What's going on and what they aught to do.
e.g. I still don't know what are the significances of the "Normal boot" and "Run in ram".
Explanation to the user would be nice, or an "explanation" link beside each option.
Also, the screens don't explain that the user needs to make a choice, or else...

2. During the making of the MultiPup ISO file and index...
At the point AFTER the symlinks have been made, and OK clicked...
I'm rather confused what is going on when the series of windows open, and each ISO file is auto-dismounted.
I'm being told to dismount the ISO file, but I actually do NOTHING, and that seems to produce the required result.
This seems confusing and untidy.
I aught to be told to do nothing and just watch as it does [explanation would be nice] whatever it's doing.

Lookinglass360 · #155 Post by **Lookinglass360** » Sat 05 Feb 2011, 00:45

Hi All

Have created 2 Multipup3.3 dvd-rw’s and 1 cd-rw burned with burniso2cd
The first dvd 4.0gb 16 pups/puplets 1 Alien (16 pets + 1screen shot + 1 pdf) + 1 sfs.

Booted all pup/puplets in ram and worked with the exception of one as
expected. GreatDane is 522mb, I have 512ram.
Mounted my 511 save file just fine.

The alien Slax-612 tried to boot but failed with a message of (this should never happen) maybe just my hardware? If you need to know more about the message just ask.

No 4.2x or 4.3x pups would allow the dvd drive to open

The second dvd 3.9gb 23 pups/puplets 1 alien 8 pets + 1 sfs.
Booted all pups/puplets in ram and all seemed to run as expected, except
Dragonpup (Witch I also miss spelled when renaming ) message (tty job control turn off)
again maybe a hardware thing.

The alien Feather seemed to boot and run fine.

Cd-rw Multipup3.3 6.70mb, pup, 2 puplets ,1 alien + 3 pets + 1 sf
all worked as expected.

In other words works for me

Thanks to each and every developer of the distros represented in the screen shots that follow.
You are truly a credit to the linux community!

As for Multipup, another testament to the creativity, talent and versatility of a community that we have all come to know and love as puppy linux!

Thanks to All!
Bob

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